Kratom, Mitragyna speciosa

Experiences with Kratom, Mitragyna speciosa

Kratom, Mitragyna speciosa

Posted by Nicaine
Dose: Unknown ('boosted' twice with pre-prepared refrigerated tea). Possible equiv. 20g premium powder.
Onset: About one hour to get to my current state (see below).
Peak: One hour.
Duration: Unknown (booster doses involved).

Apparently Kratom does have a peak, because I'm currently experiencing my first Kratom overdose. Symptoms include: intense/full body itching, nausea, dizziness, drowsiness, sweating, urinary retention, blurred vision, dry mouth, thirst, trembling, shallow breathing, slow heart rate. Basically I'm aware this is happening and just took a shower with intense toweling afterward to keep my blood circulating (also plan to go out and walk a few blocks to the store to pick up some chewing tobacco, and to stay awake/alert until I come down). I've never been this high before on any opiate, and I did a hell of a lot of opiates back in the 80's. Thankfully I believe Kratom is somewhat different, because if this was a true opiate I would be completely nodded off and possibly not breathing.

Very unpleasant and somewhat frightening (which is good, the adrenaline is helping me feel better). Unlike opiates, I'm finding Kratom can be sneaky... there's a very fine line between a good high and a state of overdose, and you might not get to the latter state until an hour or so has passed. It seems Kratom can build up in your bloodstream over the course of a day or two as well, and suddenly hit you in a way you hadn't expected (as I found out when only 2g of premium powder hit very hard last week). As I stated, I believe there's enough difference between Kratom and true opiates to make Kratom somewhat safer if you cross the line. However, I wouldn't ever like to find out what it would feel like being higher than I am at the moment. I'm very grateful for my cast-iron stomach, as cleaning up vomit doesn't appeal to me at all. I think I've found a new respect for this stuff -- no more unplanned "boosts."
Update (+15 min) -- returned from store. Still feel dizzy/nauseated with intense desire to 'nod off' (but won't). A bit more relaxed now that I know I'm not getting any higher & am going to live (lol). Check in the mirror shows pinpoint pupils. Tried to make myself puke and failed (damn stomach is built like a tank).
Update (+2 hours) -- itching has subsided, but nausea doesn't want to quit. If anything it's worse. Finally managed to puke.
Update (+17 hours) -- nausea finally subsided at +6 hours(worse I've ever felt) and I slept all day today. That was a close call. Just too easy to overdo having prepared tea lying around

Posted by LostInSpace: Male, 210 lbs, 6 foot
Normal dose of SS powder: 5-8 grams
Leaf: first time, testing

Just received Kratom leaf yesterday. Never tried the leaf, always the super strength powder, but found a good deal on ****, so decided to order 100 grams. The leaf is pretty moist, so I decided to start with a small amount (2 and a half leaves - suckers are very large BTW) and let them set out for a few minutes to dry a bit. Once I could crunch them up fairly well with my hands and make a nice little pile of junk (not powdery - medium to small flakes), I put water in a coffee cup, stuck it in the microwave, and heated to "just" starting to boil. Added the flakes, and stirred and crushed the flakes in the cup with a spoon for about 15 minutes. After that, I used a coffee filter to strain the tea from one cup into another for drinking. The tea was the familiar piss yellow/tan color, and smelled like parsley, with a kind of sweet aroma. Drank this down in about 5 minutes, and had the familiar tongue and back of throat numbing effect.
After about 20 minutes, it started to come on, and built up for about 45 minutes after. At this dosage, I was some place in between the cola speed rush, and the opiate mellowing effect. All of my senses were very aware of everything, and I was very "physically" motivated, yet my brain could not get out of first gear. This lasted for about 4-5 hours, with what I've come to expect on the come down which is, sleepiness, achy kidneys, and some back and leg aches. All-n-all, a very good experience for using leaf for the first time. This batch should last awhile, it is much stronger than any powder I have had to date. What I really love about Kratom is I have the ability to get into a "working" state or jump into the opiate mellow yellow comfy zone. I like to find what dose works best for getting work done, and what dose is great for relaxing, this way I can enjoy my supply, and never guess at where my "fun" level is when I want it.

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