Quaaludes/Mandrax/Methaqualone

[tinydancer]

*Please Note that this is a Combined Thread. The earlier posts are from before the time that Self-Incrimination became frowned upon. Do NOT take this as a license to avoid the use of SWIM (or similar)*

Back in the early 80's qualudes(sp) were popular amongst my friends.
I never got a chance to try them because I missed the party or didn't
get invited. I'm curious to know what type of drug is this and how does
it feel being on ludes?

[Guest]

as far as I am aware they are no longer made. It was a barbituate and I did try them many years ago. UN-BE-f**kING-Believeable. just stay safe and do some xanix

[OneDiaDem]

Ahhh, the Lude groove. They arent made anymore. Heavy pills. Nice ride. Im not sure why they quit making them, but they were heavily abused, which may have been the reason, plus they were very strong. Newer and better drugs have come along. OD was not uncommon back in the day.

[edgien]

Oh how I remember the king of the feeL good remedy...Quaaludes or Methaqualone was outlawed in 1984 and is no longer manufactured (legaLLy that is). Ludes were the drug of choice by many, it would put you in the best mood of your life and you woke up the next morning feeLing like a million bucks andwould make even the most inhibitedgirL or guy HORNY as heLL in less time then to say "huh". But as with many good things there was a price to pay for longterm use not to mention many a souL left this worLd while indulging in the big "714". You either loved them or hated them, for some it would simply put them to sLeep butfor others including myself the memory although somewhat blurred was very sweet!!!!!!!!!!!

someone once said......20~30mg of Valium (Roche Labs)wiLL give you a Quaalude like "feeL~good"...Ludes were termed Major TranquiLizars and Valium were termed minor tranquiLizars in the dayso go figure........trust me it works.....

[rolexparts]

Quaaludes are not made any longer. They're not barbiturates. They're in their on class. Look them up on google. Quaalude had some extremely potent and undesireable (in the clinical setting) side effects. That's why it's not used any more

[edgien]

I sure never had any ~~UndesIreaBLe~~side effects but as with any heavy__drug it wiLL do some very undesireable side effects on your internaL organs with heavy or longterm usage, good thing they quite manufacturing them cause Im sure I would have suffered some of them.......

[indii]

wasn't quaaludes mainly a milder version of seconal? or have i got it all wrong now?

[edgien]

secobarbitaL or seconaL ("got any REDS man")is a barbiturate which use to be the true "sleeping piLL" back in the 60~70`s, it was easiLy prescribed for sleepback then. As with ludes it was extremely addictive and came with atrue "wish I could justdie" withdraw as anadded feature. Ludes were not a MiLder version of the former but rather as some would say a "happier" version. The lude age died out somewhere in the mid 1980`s never to show its Joe Friday badge again. As much as i liked doing themit was agood thing they went away because had they not there would have been quite a few "unconsciousness Expansions" being feLt.... When in HS my best friend worked at a pharmacy and was the guy that would pick up all the unused meds from the local nursing homes and he would sometimesborrow a fewseconaL punchouts and share the winnings with his good friends...seems tome the feeLing was kinda like a "2~ton heavy thing" saying heLLooooooo.......

[Guest]

I know folks have heard of this and I'm not looking for a source but is it still produced anywhere in the world. I heard that it was still produced in Poland. Any thoughts or insight would be great.


Thanks -obboy

[Guest]

sorry I found a related thread


-obboy

[Guest]

Ever been in Switzerland?

Toquilone Compositum ( 250mg Methaqualone).

[TheMatrix]

What are they, what do/did they do and are they still around?

[ToxicMind]

i have no idea if they're still around. i've never done them and my friends/my dealer don't have them. so i'd say theyre pretty rare, but probly out there somehwere. but here's some info anyways(from erowid):


DESCRIPTION
Methaqualone (Quaalude) is a sedative/hypnotic central nervous system depressant similar to barbiturates. It is most often taken orally in tablet and produces a range of effects including light sedation, euphoria and sleep at lower doses to unconsciousness and sometimes seizures at high doses.


to read more on them go here:


Erowid Methaqualone Vault (Quaaludes) (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/methaqualone/methaqualone.shtml)

[Thegreatone]

u might see stuff that is supposed to be ludes withg the lemon 316 or somew oyther number samp on them fairly big pills but according to most people they are just other benzos being used in that stamp, plus iv read something of the sort on a dea or fbi bust story. i think ther r made in aferica or used to bo

[TheMatrix]

Thanks I should have just went to Erowid, I forget about that website sometimes.

[BlueMystic]

as far as I am aware they are no longer made. It was a barbituate and I did try them many years ago. UN-BE-f**kING-Believeable. just stay safe and do some xanix





Sorry guest. Methaqualone is not a barbituate.


By the way. They are still availabe in different parts of the world. There is an epidemic of people using methaqualone in South Africa. People are smoking it on top of cannabis.

[blackwolf]

I belive you most likly will only find them in southh africa, where it seems
to be quite popular. I have heard the like to smoke cigs dipped in it too.
But again this is all 3rd hand knowledge. As far as the rest of the world I
have not heard of anyone having true quaaludes since the early 80s.

[sands of time]

Unless someone has a 20 year old script laying around, your not going to find them in the states. They were used as a sleeping aid but they created to many problems so they were replaced by benzos.

[korky8097]

ever hear that skynard song that smell? Talks about ludes' in it
at one point, "so they call you prince charming, cant speak a word when
your full of ludes', say youll be alright come tommorow, but tommorow
might not be here for you" sounds like they fuck you up pretty
good from those lyrics. I dont think they make them anymore though

[Psilocybe S.]

Actually, people still make them on the street. I know where to find some capsules in Santa Monica. But they're all street synth. chemicals, not professionaly made pills.

[unico_walker]

DESCRIPTION
Methaqualone (Quaalude) is a sedative/hypnotic central nervous system depressant similar to
barbiturates. It is most often taken orally in tablet and produces a range of effects including light sedation, euphoria and sleep at lower doses to unconsciousness and sometimes seizures at high doses.

Sounds a lot like a GABA agonist,effects are likely similar to GHB.

I'll look it up sounds interesting,I'd heard of them but assumed they were just an old brand of benzos.

[Ludeman]

Quaaludes were my favorite high. They are also known as Mandrax. Does anyone know if they exist anywhere??

[GoaM]

There's a big blackmarket for them in South Africa. I'd love to try a lude. :P They even smoke em there. It's supposed to be a huge problem. ;)

[zapatista]

Ah mandrax..........Mandracos as we called them in South Texas. Not available anymore and when they were, they were not pharmaceutical grade. My understanding was that most were produced in South America in clandestine labs. I would say that there is no pharm quality Mandrax or Qs at this time. The prior poster might be right in Stating that South Africa has a market for clandestine lab produced Mandrax. also correct in stating that Mandrax can be smoked.


Z

[Nicaine]

Has anyone ever tried Quaaludes (Methaqualone) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaalude)? They aren't prescribed in the U.S. anymore, but are mentioned so often in books & movies that it always gets my curiosity going about what the high is like.

Apparently they're still available in India, Sri Lanka and South Africa (brand name Mandrax). Do we have any members who have tried this substance and can report on it?

Thanks
Edited by: Nicaine

[OiledMandible]

Ludes mannnnn.....LUUUDES!!



/Denis Leary



Nope, never tried it. Havent seen it for years either.

[Mr Jones]

Quaaludes - better known as Mandrax in South Africa, is and remain the synthetic drug of choice among some users. Off course I've never tried it, but if seen people who have and they go into a zombie/trans-like state of oblivion with a lot of salivation. The stuff 's highly addictive and administration method of choice is grinding the tablet and mixing it with cannabis, one tablet to one spliff, and smoking. All sources supplying to SA is illicit/illegal, and the scale is huge - a couple of years ago I personally worked a 24 million tablet seizure. Precursors are also regularly seized in several metric ton quantities. The preparation is fairly straight forward and well documented.


http://www.saps.gov.za/drugs/drugs/bground.htm#METHAQUALONE


http://www.saps.gov.za/drugs/drugs/index.htm


http://www.saps.gov.za/drugs/drugs/methindex.htm


http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/pdf/quaalude.pdf

[Piglet]

I think it's fair to say that the worlds 'favorite' downer of abuse is the now defunct 'Quaalude' or 'Mandrax'. Does anyone have details on it's method of action? It's supposed to interact with the GABA receptor but, in spite of it's somewhat similar structure to benzos, it's effect is quite wildly different (better). About the only place that still has a thriving black market is South Africawhere 'een wit pipe' or (for the non-Afrikaans speakers) 'A white Pipe' as joints containing it are called are still popular.


Tried & True: the 'lude'


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2e/Methaqualone.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Methaqualone.png)


The boring replacement diazepam


http://images.google.co.uk/imagesq=tbn:Pbw8Dv4xXrkJ:www.pharmazie.uni-wuerzburg.de/AKBaumann/arzneistoffanalytik/structures/Diazepam.jpg (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.pharmazie.uni-wuerzburg.de/AKBaumann/arzneistoffanalytik/structures/Diazepam.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.pharmazie.uni-wuerzburg.de/AKBaumann/arzneistoffanalytik/gate/structures.html&h=183&w=184&sz=13&tbnid=Pbw8Dv4xXrkJ:&tbnh=95&tbnw=96&hl=en&start=1&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddiazepam%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr% 3D%26sa%3DN)


While I'm at it, anyone got likes to an SAR of the anaogues (mecloqualone etc).

[Jeyez]

never heard of it sounds interesting, is it legal in the us, if so what level of controlled substunce is it?

[Nagognog2]

Not legal anymore in the USA. It was extremely popular in the 1970's as a sex-drug with the plastic disco-crowd. "Like dude, pop some 'ludes, dude."

It is now a schedule I controlled substance.

[starfish513]

I remember the days of Quaaludes. Swim had Lemmons and Rorer 714's, way back in the mid to late 70's, early 80's. Then they vanished like the wind, never to be seen again. I am surprised they never got that big on the black market. I personally loved them! It was like getting drunk in pill form. :D

[catfish_groid]

hey Piglet!
Started a post about clomethiazole...check it out, see if you could see if it's accurate.
-cfg

[dan50]

Methaquaalone is still available in other countries like Belgium, Switzerland and parts of S America and the powder it manufactured in India
It is oftentimes sold as toquilone which is a combination of methaquaalone
and benedryl as the latter was found to potentiate the former

[DJ]

SWIM ran into Lemmon 714s back in early 1999. This is hard to believe and everytime SWIM tries to tell this to someone they don't believe it. SWIM is sure of this as SWIM had a 100 pack pass from his hands to someone else's.

That was 1999 though. SWIM says he hasn't seen them since. SWIM also states that when he ate the Lemmon 714s they HAD to be methaqualone NOT valium as is many times the case with bootleg Quaaludes.

SWIM wishes they would float by again in such an abundance as they were then. SWIM actually mixed the Lemmon 714 with MDMA and had a blast!

[radiometer]

There's a big blackmarket for them in South Africa.
I have read this as well. A google search for "mandrax" elicits all sorts of interesting links.

One also reads about LE seizures of counterfeit Lemmon 714's in the US on occasion - containing other, more common, depressants.

[Nature Boy]

SWIM's never come across quaaludes, they're mainly a thing of the past. Apparently they are still available in Canada on prescription. They have a formidable reputation. It's a shame they're very hard to find.

[Nagognog2]

Bongo remembers the heyday of "'ludes, dude" and all that went along with them. Such as mood-rings, Earth-Shoes, and discos. It was a foul time to be a part of what was advertised as being the Mainstream-Culture in the USA.

Quaaludes were a rather nice and euphoric downer that made you more open and talkative with other people - before you went home for the night and wrapped your lime-green Gremlin around a utility pole. Considering the utter uselessness of the quasi-culture of the times, a nice downer made for a good counterpoint to what the dull, boring, and gullible were living as life then - might as well sleep through it. Then appeared the flood of cocaine and the mirrored-ball dancing-boy set woke up. And so did Ronald Reagan.

Methaqualone? Overrated downer that made it possible to be mostly asleep, but still fuck. Too bad it curtailed thought.

[jbmac]

SWIM misses them most as he used them for insomnia - one of the best sleeping pills on earth - no side effects, made you feel good - that's why it was banned - now our docs can prescibe expensive, dangerous sleeping pills.

[radiometer]

Hot off the presses! From the most recent Microgram journal:

QUALUDE MIMIC TABLETS (CONTAINING DIAZEPAM)
IN LEXINGTON PARK, MARYLAND

The Maryland State Police Forensic Sciences Division (Pikesville) recently received 12 round, white tablets with a “LEMMON - 714” logo on one face and half-scored on the opposite face, apparent Qualudes (see Photo 4). The tablets were seized in Lexington Park by the St. Mary’s County Bureau of Criminal Investigation Narcotics Unit, pursuant to the investigation of a home invasion. Psilocybe mushrooms, hashish, and a large number of marijuana plants were also seized. Analysis of the tablets (net mass not determined) by UV/Vis, GC, GC/MS, and FTIR, however, indicated not methaqualone but rather diazepam, probably diluted with maltose (diazepam not quantitated). The last known submission of these diazepam-containing Qualude mimic tablets to the Forensic Sciences Division was over five years ago.

[Nagognog2]

How bogus! The letters on them were cut so clean and perfectly! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.........<hump..pump...pump>....ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ....

[oxalot]

See also in searching, "White Pipe" also a term used by the south Africaners.
I t is Mandrax smoked SWIN has heard.

[radiometer]

And once again, from the Microgram...

- INTELLIGENCE BRIEF -

- QUAALUDE LEMMON 714 MIMIC TABLETS (CONTAINING DIAZEPAM) -

- SURPRISING PERSISTENCE -

The recent reports of Quaalude mimic tablets (containing diazepam) in Lexington Park, Maryland (Microgram Bulletin 2006;39(8):99; see Photo 6) and on the U.S./Canadian border near Oroville, Washington (Microgram Bulletin 2006;39(9):115; no photo) mark the latest two submissions in a now 25 year history of such tablets. Manufacture of authentic (pharmaceutical) Quaalude Lemmon 714 tablets (containing methaqualone) was discontinued by Lemmon Pharmaceuticals on November 15th, 1983; however, Quaalude counterfeit, mimic, and fake tablets had been in common circulation since the mid-1970s. [“Counterfeits” contained methaqualone, “mimics” contained one or more of a variety of controlled substances (not including methaqualone), and “fakes” contained no controlled substances.] The licit and illicit Quaaludes submitted to forensic laboratories between about 1975 and 1980 were primarily Rorer 714s, but the William H. Rorer Company sold the Quaalude rights to Lemmon Pharmaceuticals in 1979, and by mid-1980 most Quaaludes (both licit and illicit) were Lemmon 714s. Amazingly, illicit Lemmon 714s were being seized on the streets before the licit product was available at pharmacies. This reflected the enormous extent of Quaalude abuse, which rivaled marijuana abuse in 1980 and 1981, and in fact the Lemmon 714 tablet is by far the most illicitly replicated pharmaceutical product in the history of the Drug Enforcement Administration, with at one time over 250 different exemplars in the Reference Collection at the DEA Special Testing and Research Laboratory.

Extensive efforts by the DEA Office of Diversion Control in the late 1970s and early 1980s led to increasingly restrictive international controls on methaqualone and its precursors, and methaqualone was transferred to Schedule I of the U.S. Controlled Substances Act in 1984. As stocks of methaqualone dried up worldwide, clandestine manufacturers quickly settled on diazepam as the controlled substance of choice for Lemmon 714 mimics, and virtually all such tablets submitted to forensic laboratories since 1990 were determined to contain only diazepam. Initial variability in tablet compositions was a serious concern - some of the early mimics contained as much as 300 milligrams of diazepam, and overdoses and deaths from combining these Quaaludes mimics and alcohol were a major problem in some areas (quite notably in Atlanta, Georgia).

Currently, it is believed that Lemmon 714 mimics are still being sporadically produced, probably outside the United States. However, it is also thought that many of the Lemmon 714 mimics being seized by law enforcement authorities may actually be from 20 - 25 year old stashes (that is, recovered by previously incarcerated Quaalude traffickers upon their releases from prison). Oddly, despite ample published information to the contrary, most of the “testimonials” concerning Quaaludes (that is, Lemmon 714 tablets) on the various drug-abuse websites make it clear that the users still believe that they are ingesting genuine Quaaludes (which is quite unlikely). The last report in Microgram of authentic or counterfeit Quaaludes was in 1981, and the last submissions of such tablets to the DEA Special Testing and Research Laboratory were in 1985. Diazepam is currently classified as Schedule IV.

The following list are all the citations in Microgram or Microgram Bulletin of Quaalude Lemmon 714 mimic tablets containing diazepam or (less commonly) a mixture of diazepam and another controlled substance.* Not included are approximately another dozen citations of “Quaaludes containing diazepam” that did not contain logo information or photos.

1980;13(2):16 - Philadelphia Police Department Crime Laboratory
1980;13(4):50 - New Jersey State Police North Regional Laboratory (Little Falls)
1980;13(6):102 - DEA Southeast Laboratory (Miami)
1980;13(7):113 - DEA South Central Laboratory (Dallas)
1980;13(6):124 - DEA Southeast Laboratory (Miami)
1980;13(6):161 - Southeast Missouri Regional Crime Laboratory (Cape Girardeau)

1981;14(2):10 - Philadelphia Police Department Crime Laboratory
1981;14(4):37 - Regional Forensic Laboratory (Painesville, Ohio)
1981;14(5):54 - Philadelphia Police Department Crime Laboratory

1982;15(10):165 - Metro-Dade Police Department Crime Laboratory (Miami)

1984;17(12):176 - DEA Northeast Laboratory (New York)

1991;24(10):244 - Southeast Missouri Regional Crime Laboratory (Cape Girardeau)
1991;24(12):283 - Aurora Police Department Crime Laboratory (Colorado)

1992;25(3):42 - San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Forensic Science Laboratory (California)

1993;26(10):221 - Northern Illinois Police Crime Laboratory (Highland Park)

1995;28(8):235 - Mansfield Police Department Laboratory (Ohio)

1996;29(8):199 - University of Massachusetts Drugs of Abuse Laboratory

1997;30(2):26 - Regional Crime Laboratory at the Indian River Community College (Florida)
1997;30(6):115 - Tennessee Bureau of Investigation Crime Laboratory (Nashville)

2006;39(8):99 - Maryland State Police Forensic Sciences Division (Pikesville)
2006;39(9):115 - DEA Western Laboratory (San Francisco)


* Notes: All issues of Microgram and Microgram Bulletin published prior to January 2003 are Law Enforcement Restricted. Dr. Edward Franzosa, Ph.D., of the DEA Special Testing and Research Laboratory (Dulles, Virginia) contributed to this Intelligence Brief.hXXp://www.usdoj.gov/dea/programs/forensicsci/microgram/mg0107/mg0107.html

Suprising persistence! Well, I don't know. "Ludes" will always have a reputation as long as the 70's are remembered. I see a lot of people posting on drug discussion boards (as mentioned in the article) who clearly haven't got a clue about drugs. Why is the DEA so surprised? Even with more sophisticated users, I could easily see anyone who has never taken methaqualone mistaking a large dose of diazepam for the "real" thing if they didn't know to be skeptical. There will always be some third-world chemical companies selling pills made to order, and there will always be people willing to believe that the diazepam-containing "Quaaludes" they bought were genuine.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

I have read they feel abit like benzos but with far more euphoria.SWIM would love to try them as SWIM loves downers of any type.

[senorsalvia]

Swim tried a few Ludes 'back in the day' (he's always liked downs of whatever kind)... The only problem Swim had is that 10-20 min after getting off; he would experience violent projectile vomiting without any warning... Swim did this on four seperate occasions before 'ole Swim had to give up on the Ludes.... It just wasn't socially acceptable to be spewing across someones living room without warning:cool: ---- On the other hand; when Swim was in Germany, he used to do Mandrax (German Ludes) and had a fun time without any hint of vomiting..........

[Whit]

Tried searching on the net and the forum, but I hear of this "quadludes" stuff and have no idea what it is?

Anyone shed some light?

Cheers

[Nagognog2]

Methaqualone (Quaalude was a brand name from the Rorer Pharmaceutical Co,) was a sedative/hypnotic popular during the 1970's. Considered a "love-drug' due to the loss of inhibitions people exhibited.

Methaqualone was outlawed and placed in Schedule I around this time. Anyone offering Quaaludes is a scammer trying to rip people off. Some fake ones have turned up that contained enough diazepam (Valium) to render one unconscious and possibly dead if consumed with alcohol.

Beware!

[Whit]

Searching the wrong name I guess.

Thanks alot - you know your stuff

Will keep your info in mind

[old hippie 56]

Read the title, swim thought he been transported back to 1974. Read somewhere, that they are a hot item in the Far East.

[oxalot]

SWIM has heard they are made in South Africa known as white pipe. Look white pipe up on net SWIY will find some info.Methaqualone was one of SWIMS fav's in the 70's as mentioned they got replaced with the diazepam crap SWIM thinks it was a ploy by DEA to curb appetites for the illegal stuff that made it's way around as they outlawed the real thing. It used to be available as huge crystallyzed rocks (that needed to be busted up and definitely buffered w/Tylenol as the real ones were made w alot of buffer) at a local biker camp in 55 gallon drums in it's hayday.

[Jatelka]

Methaqualone (available combined with diphenhydramine, as "Mandrax") is apparently the second most commonly used illicit drug in South Africa.

Any SA SWIMers have any experiences?

[Jatelka]

A new entry has been added to Drugs Archive

Description: Originally published in The Indian Journal of Pharmacology

Case Report

To check it out, rate it or add comments, visit Acute Toxicity With Lethal Dose of Methaqualone and Diphenhydramine Combination (Mandrax) in Human (Arya et al, 1990) (http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/local_links.php?linkid=2764)
The comments you make there will appear in the posts below.

[FuBai]

Methaqualone's precursors are no longer made legally, so undercover synthesis is now much much harder. The DEA managed to get all places that manufactured Methaqualone's precursors to simply stop it, seeing as the precursors did not have many uses anyway.

[merc11292]

Methaqualone's precursors are no longer made legally, so undercover synthesis is now much much harder. The DEA managed to get all places that manufactured Methaqualone's precursors to simply stop it, seeing as the precursors did not have many uses anyway.


they still made legally anywhere? swims favorite aunt was down in Mexico a few months ago and of course swim asked her too pick some up for swim but the aunt remembered them from her days in the 80's and decided not too, swim knows the name brand name Qualudes are no longer made but isnt the brand name Mandrax still available, swims sure they were available in Mexico just few months ago.

Swim is praying they still make these somewhere, Swims dieing to try them at least once.

[FuBai]

All manufacture of Quaaludes is now illicit, mainly occurring in South Africa, the surrounding African countries and India. It is very popular in South Africa in particular because of it's low price tag and its pleasurable interaction with Marijuana. In the late 1970's and throughout the 1980's the DEA managed to persuade manufacturers of the precursors to stop. Now it is not cost effective to produce, especially when there is so much cheap Methamphetamine flooding the American market. If one thinks of the drug market as a shifting entity that, if you poke too hard in one area, will move all of its efforts to another. All that Law Enforcement Initiatives do is either switch where the drug is sold or which drug is produced. It maybe that in the future demand rises or the cost-effectiveness changes and the market will swing back to Quaaludes, but at the moment there is just isn't the demand.

[catfish_groid]

i am interested in quaaludes
b/c i have heard that methaqualone is SMOKABLE
isnt there a name for it in S Africa
wit pip or soemthing

[FuBai]

i am interested in quaaludes
b/c i have heard that methaqualone is SMOKABLE
isnt there a name for it in S Africa
wit pip or soemthing

It is smokeable and readily mixed with marijuana in South Africa, and it comes under the brand name Mandrax.

[mrphucker]

you all keep saying its mixed with weed and smoked,i believe its mixed with methamphetamine and smoked

[Nagognog2]

As a fool that Bongo was back yonder in the 1970's when methaqualone was widely available, I can assure you that something that takies 150mgs. to make you drowsy and spread your legs - it's not worth going to jail for 10 years to manufacture it.

Best advice? Forget it. Go buy a Gremlin. Blech.

[Swift Serenity]

damn lol swim didnt know they were that strong.. i hope he doesnt do anything like that.. and what are quaaludes?

[Lobsang]

damn lol swim didnt know they were that strong.. i hope he doesnt do anything like that.. and what are quaaludes?


LOL...What are Quaaludes. I wish SWIM was young again. Damn it! Well SWIy they were a sleeping pill that doctors prescribed all the time in th e 70s. They were called 714s or Lemmons ect..

They basically were a short acting highly powerful sleep aid. That if you took at night and wanted to sleep would put you right out. But if you took them and stayed awake they made you really high but not sleepy. Kind of numb anddrunk like but not exactly drunk. Even one would make you pretty high and a couple would really Fu** you up. They were really popular. Doctors prescribed them to a lot of people. You could also shave them up and smoke them and get really high. They were so good that the DEA forced them to be taken off the market. They contained methaqualone. It is totally illegal in the USA. They were produced by 2 companies I believe. Rhore and Lemmon. I do not know if it is still used in any other country or synthesized for sale on the street. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methaqualone

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/methaqualone/images/methaqualone_summary1.jpg What is ashame is that they really worked well as a sleep aid. They put you right out. And they were safe. Because if someone OD'd on them they did not stay in the system that long and did not supress repiration as much as other things. But they could be dangerous in the sense that one was really high on them they could be reckless and get hurt.

[Swift Serenity]

dang that sounds awesome.. swim wishes they were still around, that sounds like a nice thing to do..

[Panthers007]

That would be Rorer. The infamous Rorer 714's, dude. Hop in my Pacer and let's go Disco, baby! Maybe you'll get lucky and meet my Sweat-Hog. What's your sign? Did you say you were a female?

Such were the times. The real Hippies didn't cut their hair. The phonies put on Leisure-Suits and drove Leisure-cars. Like the Pacer and Gremlin. They looked like Moon-Buggies from the last Apollo Missions. And they got laid with 'Ludes.

Methaqualone could get you very high. Wrecked was more like it. And they were alleged to make "babe's spread easy, dude." They also could kill you easy if you mixed them with alcohol, Valium, so forth regards downers/narcotics. Mixing them with speed was common.

Because they were rumored to make getting laid more easy, the shit hit the fan and the DEA got them taken from the market and placed into Schedule I. Bad, bad, bad!

In that the precursors for this molecule is heavily watched/controlled -and the dosage is so high, you'd have to be on 'Ludes, dude to want to bother synthesizing this one. Being in love and being honest - and maybe a good Merlot - would get one further.

[Dexyfiend]

I first heard of 'ludes' from a video game funnily enough. The game was called "Dopewars" (I'm sure you lot have heard of it) and the aim of the game was the buying and selling of drugs for profit (duh).
The cheapest drugs you could buy in the game were ludes and I always wondered what they were (this was back in about 97).
I realize they're not made anymore but SWIM tells me he'd love to try them

[ChoppedandFaded]

SWIM is wondering, how come Mandrax in tablet form is smoke-able? SWIM was under the impression that most (if not all) pills are not intended to be smoked due to the m.p of certain drugs and also the harmful effects on ones lungs as a result of inhaling binders and fillers.

Does Methaqualone have a low enough m.p that it could be successfully smoked? Swim is puzzled by this as not many of the old users (when it was still around) report ever smoking the pills.

[Lobsang]

SWIM is wondering, how come Mandrax in tablet form is smoke-able? SWIM was under the impression that most (if not all) pills are not intended to be smoked due to the m.p of certain drugs and also the harmful effects on ones lungs as a result of inhaling binders and fillers.

Does Methaqualone have a low enough m.p that it could be successfully smoked? Swim is puzzled by this as not many of the old users (when it was still around) report ever smoking the pills.

Well SWIM does not know anything about melting points and such. But yes it can be smoked and it is very effective that way. And as SWIM has heard there are very negative effects on the lungs. SWIM beleives it is established that it causes emphysema. Though he cannot find a study. But yes SWIM has smoked it and the effects are very real.

[Politicalchalk]

Actually, at least 2 drugs of that class are currently produced in Canada. One imagines it'd only be Rxed in dire situations. Methaqualone and Mecloqualone if I recall correctly.

Not sure about actual Rx rates; again, it seems like a drug (from it's notoriety) that is only given to hospice patients, etc.