View Full Version : Drug info - Chlordiazepoxide/Clinidium (Librax)
SWIM is looking for what exactly is in these pills. Can't really find much info. Is the "Chlord" the same as "chlordiazepoxide"?
Any information wouls be great for SWIM. Thanks.
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Ok so I believe this is Chlordiazepoxide (5mg)/Clidiniu (2.5mg)
I'm having trouble figuring out what Clidiniu is. But if SWIM were to
take out and ingest the Chlordiazepoxide, I believe it would have
recreational value as it is the same as Librium.
Please correct me if I am mistaken.
Any more information on Clidiniu or Chlordiazepoxide for that matter) would be wonderful. Please fill SWIMs (and other readers) head with information.Thankshttp://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif
Benzhead
31-03-2005, 14:54
The combination of a benzo(Chlordiazepoxide) AKA Trade name Librium, along with Clinidium(an anticholinergic)is used in the treatment of peptic ulcers and a couple of other GI(gastrointestinal) conditions.
Anticholinergics block the action of acetylcholine...A neurotransmitter.
The reason that an anticholinergic agent is used in the treatment of ulcers is because cells in the digestive tract have fewer acetylcholinereceptor sites, hence making anticholinergics more effective at a less toxic level in GI therapies.
Clinidium's mode of action is as an antispamodic.
Anticholinegics have a pretty awful effect profile. Everything from the brain to the heart is effected by their actions.
I'd say SWIM should take a pass on these...Chlordiazepoxide @ 5mg is pretty weak.
You should dosome research on anticholinergic effects so you can better assist SWIM in his/her decision to this pharm for what little recreational effect SWIM might achieve from this combination.
FWIW, if you could perform an extraction of Chlordiazepoxide, you might have something. I wouldn't bother.
T
Edited by: benzhead
yeah, I found that the clidi is very soluble in water, and unstable
when dissolved. I'm willing to bet if someone were to perhaps shake the
contents in a bit of water quickly and strained it, a whole lot of
clidi would be in the water. Still not sure if it would kill the
chlord, though.
Anyway, SWIM took 10mg yesterday and was quite relaxed and content,
although this could also be psychosomatic, along with the fact that
SWIM was hanging out with a new female and had a buzz from her
awesomeness.http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif
Anyway, I'll still be doing some research on the hypthetical
extraction, hopefully someone can give me some hypothgetical insight.
Peace
anabolictrio
23-01-2006, 10:31
The doctor prescribed my some Librax,that's funny because I was not looking for a prescription,moreover i never heard about this downer.
Here is what I found about this drug:
"Librax combines in a single capsule formulation the antianxiety action of Librium (chlordiazepoxide hydrochloride) and the anticholinergic/spasmolytic effects of Quarzan (clidinium bromide), both exclusive developments of Roche research. "
anyone ever tried it?
Any recreational value?
Micklemouse
23-01-2006, 11:02
No experience I'm afraid, and clinidium doesn't appear in the British Formulary, however a quick google brought this up from Medline...
Chlordiazepoxide and Clidinium Bromide
Why is this medication prescribed?
The combination of chlordiazepoxide and clidinium bromide is used to treat ulcers and irritable bowel syndrome. It helps relieve stomach spasms and abdominal cramps.
This medication is sometimes prescribed for other uses; ask your doctor or pharmacist for more information.
How should this medicine be used?
The combination of chlordiazepoxide and clidinium bromide comes as a capsule to be taken by mouth. It usually is taken three or four times a day, before meals and at bedtime. Follow the directions on your prescription label carefully, and ask your doctor or pharmacist to explain any part you do not understand. Take chlordiazepoxide and clidinium bromide exactly as directed.
Chlordiazepoxide can be habit-forming. Therefore, when taking chlordiazepoxide and clidinium bromide, do not take a larger dose, take it more often, or for a longer time than your doctor tells you to. Tolerance may develop with long-term or excessive use, making this medication less effective. This medication must be taken regularly to be effective. Do not skip doses even if you feel that you do not need them. Do not take chlordiazepoxide and clidinium bromide for more than 4 months or stop taking this medication without talking to your doctor. Stopping the drug suddenly can worsen your condition and cause withdrawal symptoms (anxiousness, sleeplessness, and irritability). Your doctor probably will decrease your dose gradually.
What special precautions should I follow?
Before taking chlordiazepoxide and clidinium bromide,
tell your doctor and pharmacist if you are allergic to chlordiazepoxide, clidinium , alprazolam (Xanax), clonazepam (Klonopin), clorazepate (Tranxene), diazepam (Valium), estazolam (ProSom), flurazepam (Dalmane), lorazepam (Ativan), oxazepam (Serax), prazepam (Centrax), temazepam (Restoril), triazolam (Halcion), or any other drugs.
tell your doctor and pharmacist what prescription and nonprescription drugs you are taking, especially amantadine (Symadine, Symmetrel); antihistamines; atenolol (Tenormin); cimetidine (Tagamet); digoxin (Lanoxin); disulfiram (Antabuse); fluoxetine (Prozac); isoniazid (INH, Laniazid, Nydrazid); ketoconazole (Nizoral); levodopa (Larodopa, Sinemet); medications for depression, thyroid, high blood pressure, seizures, Parkinson's disease, asthma, colds, or allergies; oral contraceptives; muscle relaxants; probenecid (Benemid, Probalan); propoxyphene (Darvon); propranolol (Inderal); rifampin (Rifadin); sedatives; theophylline (Theo-Dur); tranquilizers; sleeping pills;valproic acid (Depakene); or vitamins. These medications may add to the drowsiness caused by chlordiazepoxide and clidinium bromide.
tell your doctor if you have or have ever had glaucoma; prostate problems; high blood pressure; seizures; or lung, thyroid, kidney, heart, or liver disease.
tell your doctor if you are pregnant, plan to become pregnant, or are breast-feeding. If you become pregnant while taking this medication, call your doctor immediately.
if you are having surgery, including dental surgery, tell the doctor or dentist that you are taking chlordiazepoxide and clidinium bromide.
you should know that this medication may make you drowsy. Do not drive a car or operate machinery until you know how it affects you.
remember that alcohol can add to the drowsiness caused by this medication.
tell your doctor if you use tobacco products. Cigarette smoking may decrease the effectiveness of this medication. What should I do if I forget a dose?
If you take several doses per day and miss a dose, skip the missed dose and continue your regular dosing schedule. Do not take a double dose to make up for a missed one.
What side effects can this medication cause?
Side effects from chlordiazepoxide and clidinium bromide are common and include:
upset stomach
drowsiness
weakness or tiredness
excitement
sleeplessness
dry mouth
heartburn
bloated feeling
eyes more sensitive to sunlight than usual
taste changes
changes in appetite Tell your doctor if any of these symptoms are severe or do not go away:
constipation
difficulty urinating
frequent urination
blurred vision
dilated pupils
changes in sex drive or ability If you experience any of the following symptoms, call your doctor immediately:
jaw, neck, and back muscle spasms
slow or difficult speech
shuffling walk
persistent, fine tremor or inability to sit still
fever
difficulty breathing or swallowing
severe skin rash
yellowing of the skin or eyes
irregular heartbeat
Sounds great. Proceed with caution.
anabolictrio
23-01-2006, 11:17
thank you ^_^
that looks like a standard downer guide.
Micklemouse
23-01-2006, 11:50
Apart from the Parkisonian/Extra Pyramidals - spasms, persistent fine tremor or inability to sit still, slow/slurred speech, shuffling walk -, the arrhythmia, the hepatitis-like effects and the fever, yer right. These effects are most commonly seen in the older antipsychotics. Given that they're at the bottom of the list they'll be rare, but anticholinergens are funny buggers and there's no way of testing tolerance so please do be careful.
pharmapsyche
06-03-2006, 01:18
I found an old bottle of Librax at my aunt's house one time. I had never heard of Librax but I was familiar with Librium. I figured that Librax contained at least some form of chlordiazepoxide and ended up eating 6 of them. They were barely noticeable. A few weeks later I returned to my aunt's house and took another 6 Librax and found the effects to be more pronounced and pleasurable.
Fantasian
06-03-2006, 01:26
Im prescribed Chlordiazepoxide for IBS even though i dont atually have IBS, i've never found any recreational use for it though.
so, anyone have any suggestions for SWIM on how to extract the Librium from these pills?
if an extract isn't going to happen, would taking 15-20mg of clidinium be a bad idea? SWIM just wants some benzos to chill out, but not have to worry about the other crap.
calmascanbe
06-05-2006, 20:26
It makes no sense to extract librium because librium has little euphoria. If I missunderstood your post forget my post.