Amphetamine overdose/bad trip caused permanent damage to brain?

[chodaboy]

SWIM has been smoking marijuana for over 5 years regularly but has been depressed the past 2 years. His father died abou 4 years ago as well has his brother the year after. SWIM decided to try ecstasy twice about 3 years ago and it went well, as well as shrooms a few times. The past 2 years he has felt like someone else almost. He sometimes doesn't remember a certain word and has problems socializing, even with friends. His short term memory is not good and he has had a bad stomach for several years (going to the bathrooom several times a day). A few days ago he tried amphetamine for the first time and it did not go well. He did less than 1g total but in several small doses over 24 hours. About 4 hours after the last line (he snorted) he started to hallucinate (the text he was reading would start to move and soon he would see flashes, dots and scratches appear for milli-seconds at a time). He would also feel like he was being poked all over his body. After going to the doctor he finds out that nothing wrong happened to his body (except having difficulties with his peeing muscle). But after two days since the hallucination, he still feels pain around in his body but it comes and goes. And his legs and arms might twitch at times. He also sometimes hallucinates a little, seeing scratches or dots but not objects stretching like when he was having the bad trip. The inside of his left ear (to him) feels different than the right, and even his eyes hurt a little. But most of all it feels like his brain has expanded and is pushing against the skull. This frightens him and he thinks a stroke might be coming. Maybe caused from his brain bleeding?

Has anyone had a similar experience? What is weird is that this is not caused from long use but from a one-time experience. Was it an overdose? And could he have caused brain damage? Maybe he had already had one, possibly from ecstasy since he's felt different the last few years. Is he in any danger? No one who has tried amphetamine that he's heard of has had that brain-expanding-feeling several days after the event. What should he do?

Please help.

[Dexyfiend]

Hmmmm... SWIM really is not too sure what the deal is here, it could just be an overdose of amphets hallucinations and weird body feelings being common, however you've mentioned a few things that SWIM cant really explain for you but don't worry... chances are it's nothing.
I'd say if it dosent subside relativley soon (use your own discretion here) to go to the dr and get a referral to see some kind of specialist, what sort I'm not sure but some kind of specialist (GP's don't know squat diddley)

I hope things work out ok

[chodaboy]

Thanks for your reply :) Is there anything SWIM can explain further to help understand the situation? It does seem very unique compared to other people's experiences..How long should SWIM wait before going to a specialist? SWIM was thinking of going tomorrow (that's 3 nights of sleep after the overdose).

[~lostgurl~]

Methamphetamine can take 3-5 days to leave the body, and if you had an amount that caused even a slight psychosis then it was probably too much, depending on your definition of overdose you could call it that because you over-dosed. 1 gram is a lot for one person with no tolerance to take. What method were you using? Have you slept much since? Sleep deprivation can cause symptoms similar and worse than amphetamine toxicity.

Remember also that a lot of people get anxiety and nerves taking a new drug for the first time, and these feelings can manifest themselves with physical symptoms. When one is high on a drug for the first time it is common to over analyze the situation, as there is an awareness to your mind and body that wasn't there previously.

In my opinion (and it is just that, I am certainly no Dr) I think in a few days you will be fine. Drink lots of water, eat well, take vitamins, sleep, exercise and take care of yourself for a few days, it will all help things come right quicker.

Good luck to you.

[Panthers007]

I agree with ~Lostgurl~ and would add that brain-damage is highly unlikely. If SWIM isn't feeling better in a few days - schedule another appointment with a physician. Tell the doctor what has happened. He/She will schedule some tests and all will get sorted out. Don't let SWIM do this again - SWIM will be fine in short order.

[humdroid]

Has anyone had a similar experience?
Please help.

SWIM will help by their personal account of SP (speed psychosis), but has just dropped a mini one though, so must be aware to stick to the point. hahhaahhahhaa (a fall off the wagon:mad:phets)

Schizo express, aka, Speed psychosis. Not a mental illness, a chemical imbalance. Not brain damaging, but like you SWIMMEY shared the same worry. The worrys can seem bizzare for a few days or weeks, SWIMMY thinks this is just the psychosis tailing off. I felt tired mentally and had a few physically weak times and appetite loss too, but I am fine.
Childhood is the only other episodes I had (only recognized as so in adulthood)
No AP med experience, its gone by the time the shrink speaks, but helped mine with B Vitamins and other stuff, see below.

Lecture hat not on, but, a gram over 24hrs is a biggie for someone who hasnt done speed before. Big amounts can trigger the episodes off too.
This SWIM made the same error first time, taking a quarter, but should have been a teenth, so no lectures.

Could the digestive complaints you mention be anxiety?
Think of all the work the organs involved have to do when anxious, that must have an effect on the digestive system, it does here in SWIMMYS guts.
Physically, the body can feel yuk during (if compus mentus enough to notice) or after a Psychosis. Menatlly, Psychosis is the brain, trying to dream while the body is awake. We need to dream, and swim around in our subconscious.

Stay hydrated even when not on it, speed is a thirsty bugger.

Heres a little list of vitamins/eatables/doables for baseheads :- on or off the stuff.
Multivitamin
B complex (B3 prevents psychosis [see above] but all b complex needs to be taken together to work]
Complex carbs while whizzing, eating at comedown seems too late for SWIMMY. Bananas, oats, cereals, potatoes. Salad, fruit. Avoid vitamin C for a couple hours after bombing.
Sleep after comedown or as soon as possible. Valerian and Kanna to stop the voms and shakes, and comedown blues.

Addiction and psychosis dont happen to all baseheads, but they did me.

Hope this helps
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Niacin (Vitamin B3) plays a part in preventing psychotic episodes.
Someone who knows more can expand, but swimmy never had any more episodes during their past habit, when Niacin was taken as part of the vits.