View Full Version : Why Should Marijuana Be Legal??
Stingray_313
13-02-2005, 08:05
H</span>ello. I am opening this thread
to allow users to explain why they think marijuana should be legal.
Hopefully, some big, rich, capitol hill politican will read this and
finally see that we arent just a buncha junkies who want to get legally
high, but that there are health aspects as well as environmental ones
(in reguards to hemp and such). Please post your positives and
negatives about weed. (Dont want to make it seem bias.)
With that said, ill start this show. Feel free to respond! Thanks!
PROS:</span>
Inspires a new way of thinking.
Many medicinal purposes.
Great fun for everyone
Hemp products like Oil, food, clothing, and other things could help protect the earth and help the environment.
CONS:
</span></span></span></span></span>Excessive smoking can lead to respitory problems.
Long term smoking can have memory problems.
Excessive hunger (But some lose weight with marijuana)
The_Great_Sage
13-02-2005, 08:40
your all a bunch of drugged up hippies........... i dont really think that but we (has drug supporters) will always be looked at like such statements (or at least i think... irony will end biting me in the ass and we wont be looked at like that ) anyway i think it should belegal because.... wel there is no reason whyit shouldnt be man look at ciggs the kill people and weed proly saves more than it kills. and look at what those officebuilding fucks have to lose if everyone is enlightened a little more we would be a totally different world. not to mention the useful side (medically speaking) of weed man.... there are people with aids that could use weed to helpl them live a little longer and if it had been legal maybe my dad would have been able to see my 5th birthday...... but i think that a socciaty with it legal would be much more peaceful and free place i will post again on this subject since im not at all drunk right now (sarcasm) peace
par excellence.
13-02-2005, 08:54
The main reaons for me are:
You can't OD on it, unless it's laced with something (I think... you'd
have to smoke like 1,000 times your body weight in pot to OD on it?
Something to that effect.), while you can get alcohol poisoning and
die. Why keep such a deadly thing legal, but such a safe little plant
illegal?
It would boost the economy. Imagine all the money people spend on
illegal drugs... it would be very very helpful to the economy right now.
It would lower drug (marijuana related, specifically) crime, I think,
because people wouldn't have to be shady about getting it or getting
caught or cheating people or anything.
Something tells me it might be an effective form of rehab... for
anorexics and people with strong addictions to other things. For EDs it
would promote hunger and level/happy mindedness, for addicts it would
promote hunger (to be a normal, non-junkie weight) and maybe help ease
withdrawl.
Only negatives I can think of is long term use could impair some motor
skills, and of course, the whole lung cancer thing from smoking.
i like weed, but tbh it shouldnt.
why : makes you pure lazy. everyone would be zombies.
the nation would turn more like amsterdam , no offence ( if u live there )but that would suck.
no offence , but smoke to much and u sink like weed all the time , go white in the faceand not care about personal appearance
youll definaly lose ambition
I cant be bothered with every loser who wont smoke it just cos its illegeal smoking it. They will if its legal , and that would b shit.
cancer etc..
it can also cause pscosis ( cant spell ). cant be good to have a load of crazy people running around.
I used to think that it should be legal , but I thought about it a bit more and hey.... its just my opinion.
Lacognac69
13-02-2005, 23:20
shneddi, you make some very good points. I definitely agree with you. Although marijuana is quite easy to get, if it was legal many people would constantly be smoking it, which definitely would slow down the progress of many things and this definitely could cause more problems
noeticbuzz
13-02-2005, 23:41
shneddi, you make some very good points. I definitely agree with you. Although marijuana is quite easy to get, if it was legal many people would constantly be smoking it, which definitely would slow down the progress of many things and this definitely could cause more problems
So is the Netherlands the cess pool of moral corruption in the world because of their drug leniency?
If Mary J was legal we would save millions of $ in legal costs by trying to turn otherwise law abidding people into criminals. The courts would not be filled with frivilous cases that waste time and take away from issues that actually matter. The money wasted on the War on drugs could actually maybe be used to combat poverty.
People should have absolute right over how they treat their bodies as long as it does not hurt anyone else.
Stingray_313
14-02-2005, 00:10
Thanks so much for your responses! You all have good arguements. I thought of a few more to add... keep adding guys!
PRO:
</span></span></span></span> Would greatly help the food industry with the increase of hunger.
CON:
</span></span>Lowered ambition
sands of time
14-02-2005, 00:48
Most people would be getting stoned every chance they could get, imagine that hehe. I still think it should be legal though.
Lacognac69
14-02-2005, 01:25
ya, i agree that turning people into criminals because of marijuana is quite stupid. Legalizing marijuana definitely has a lot of pros and cons. Wasn't it actually voted upon recently in Washington State in the U.S.for legalization? I'm pretty sure this was just in the last election and it failed so I guess the majority of people still aren't ready for legalization.
lolomgwtfbbq
14-02-2005, 04:18
Hemp can be used to make cheaper paper and clothing. That could possibly hurt the economy, though.</font>
The_Great_Sage
14-02-2005, 04:43
well now that you mention the bad things that i thought of but not that much i do see that it could be bad to haveit legal but i would like it to be cheaper i am content with my stoner life though it could involve more weed but im fine almost
Stingray_313
14-02-2005, 06:36
One major thing i would like to be changed if weed wasnt FULLY legal,
is the penalties for possession or selling. Just because someone smoked
a little pot doesnt make them a criminal. Go spend tax dollars on
finding murderers or terrorists or something. Let people do what they
want to their own bodies.
A good friend of mine recently got caught with a small bag of pot in
his dorm room in college. He was kicked out of that college, had his
driver's lisence taken away for a long period of time and now all his
family looks down on him (they all thought really highly of him). All
because of a little marijuana. I want pointless shit like this to stop
happening to good, hardworking people!!!!
billyloner
14-02-2005, 14:02
luckily it appears to be heading this way in the uk. its already been reclassified to class c, which basically means (i think) that you will just have it confiscated if you get caught with an amount suitable for personal use. ie not with bags full.
im not sure that laziness should be considered as a negative when determining legal status; yes it can make you rather lazy, but that is a personal factor and not something that others should decide for you. at least i dont think so. outlawing something because it has the potential to make people lazy is not really acceptable to me.
as for the point about it making you not care about personal appearance. i mean really, why is everybody so caught up on how they look? we all walk through life, not daring to look different for fear of ridicule, not wanting to risk causing a bad first impression. all for what? some of the nicest people ive known have been regular heavy smokers, very lazy and not giving a shit about the way they dressed.
it blows my mind to think that people feel they have the authority to say what is right or wrong for other people to do, and this is why i feel all drugs should be legalised. who can tell you what is right or wrong for you? how would you like it if a government came to power and decided clubbing / raving were illegal? or the use of computers for recreation? its ridiculous.
turfshark_40
15-02-2005, 03:28
The biggest plus to legalization would be the freedom it would allow the medical community to study the plant's potential. It has so many uses like alleviating nausea, vomiting, and loss of appetite from cancer treatments and for people with MS and glaucoma but people can't get it (or find it very tough to get) even if they do manage to get a prescription for it.
billyloner
15-02-2005, 12:36
its funny you should mention the medicinal effects... this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4261075.stm) was just in the news over here...
Darthcarlos
15-02-2005, 21:55
Well alcohol is much worse than marijuana , alcholol is physically adictive causes damage to grey matter of the brain damages internal organ , this is with heavy use.
Marijuana has not killed a single person is not physcally addictive causes no brain damage.
Its natural to, and brings relief to people with medical conditions.
Alcohol makes people violent and aggressive weed on the other hand does the opposite.
Its so much more a garmless drug , thats why i dont thing it should be illegal.
The police are made needlessly unpopular becausethe law requires them to run around busting pot smokers. They don't really accomplish anything in doing this, other than to get themselves hated by the youth of today. This is no use since a working relationship with as much of the public as possible is essential to the policeif they are to carry out their more worthwhile duties efficiently. Cannabis is a waste of police time, butthey love it when they get you for posession, because it means that they can run you down the station, fill in some forms and get an easy shift out of it. That's not why we pay taxes, and it doesnt help prevent real crime either.
Pot smokers often end up on harder drugs eventually. I don't think this is because cannabis is a 'gateway drug', but because since people need to use black market dealers to get it, once they have a contact established for getting pot they can also get all manner of other drugs as well. Over here at least, there's no realmoney in selling cannabis on a street level. Dealers would much rather you buy pills, charles or smack because there's more room for profit, so sooner or later they'll encourage you to turn your relatively harmless pot habit into a smack addiction. Legalising pot would make it much less likely that your average joe would use a black marketdealer, and this would minimalise exposure to drugs that can actually do some damage.
Stingray_313
16-02-2005, 23:07
Excellent post Biga. You have a point of how the youth today hates the
cops because of marijuana. Personally, if i was a cop, i would let it
slide. Its not like we are killing people, all we are doing is having a
good time.
And on the subject of harder drugs, i sorta have to argue on that one.
Sure people would have less exposure to it, but after a period of time,
smoking marijuana would still get boring to some people and they would
find a way to get other drugs. But as you said, if they never had to go
through dealers, they would most likely not know any dealers and
getting the drugs would be unthought of. Im definately still
pro-legalization though... just looking at it from another point of
view.
Great posts by the way! Keep it up guys!http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif
billyloner
17-02-2005, 12:37
also, if it were legalised, the 'haters' who look down on pot smokers would, eventually, mellow out a bit. might take a few years but if it was legal then pot smokers would no longer be though of in a bad way by certain people.
because its starting to get a bit boring all this talk of dangerous 'illegal' drugs,and the thing i hate most is all the lies & propoganda Edited by: dr ACE
Creeping Death
17-02-2005, 21:26
The only reason drugs are illegal is because the goverment would crumble if they weren't. With drugs, people would mutch rather spend their time having fun and exploring themselves than continue with the spiral of consumption that society is today. This would cause total anarchy.
I would love that. But most people wouldn't.
billyloner
17-02-2005, 23:00
The only reason drugs are illegal is because the goverment would crumble if they weren't. With drugs, people would mutch rather spend their time having fun and exploring themselves than continue with the spiral of consumption that society is today. This would cause total anarchy.
I would love that. But most people wouldn't.
well, from what ive read and seen in documentaries, that is the main reason that lsd was outlawed in the 60s. the governments could see what a big problem the hippys were becoming, quite separate to the society they wish to control, very difficult to influence via the usual means. simple solution? turn them into criminals. even better if you can make the rest of the population fear them irrationally, as an irrational fear is a very useful tool when you wish to control people.
Legalising pot wouldnt lead to a breakdown in society. In fact, it would probably benefit it.Most pot smokers I know have jobs. Not great jobs, but they earn an honest living. Yes, when they're stoned they happily sit on thePS2 for hours on endkilling each other on Halo, but they do this after work in their own time, in their own homes. The next day, they get up like anyone else and go to work.
Pot isn't free you know, and legalising it won't make it free either. Stoners know they have to pay for their habit which is why they get up and go to work.Some people on here seem to think that a legalisation would instantly turn everyone in a given country into acomplete stoner. Using that logic, everyone who lives in a country where alcohol is legal must be a 24/7 pisshead. But they aren't.
Biga Said:
"Legalising pot wouldnt lead to a breakdown in society. In fact, it would probably benefit it. Most pot smokers I know have jobs. Not great jobs, but they earn an honest living. Yes, when they're stoned they happily sit on the PS2 for hours on end killing each other on Halo, but they do this after work in their own time, in their own homes. The next day, they get up like anyone else and go to work.
Pot isn't free you know, and legalising it won't make it free either. Stoners know they have to pay for their habit which is why they get up and go to work. Some people on here seem to think that a legalisation would instantly turn everyone in a given country into a complete stoner. Using that logic, everyone who lives in a country where alcohol is legal must be a 24/7 pisshead. But they aren't."
Thank you, I agree completely. If our governments can survive the legalization of alcohol, we can easily legalize marijuana, it is not going to have as negative effects on our society as alcohol. Just because it is legal does not mean everyone will use it, people will still have their morals, if they thought the plant was bad before a little change in the law will not change their beliefs. America is supposed to be the land of the free, I laugh at this seeing people are going to jail for smoking/selling something that is grown from the earth. Someone said people would become "mindless zombies" LOL you couldn't be more wrong, weed does not make people mindless zombies, in fast DXM does make people look and act like mindless zombies....and you know what, I can go to walmart and buy that.
I think all drugs should be legalized. Not only weed.
Why?
Fiscally
It would increase income through new taxes. It would reduce spendings associated to the drug war[from jail space, to police time]
Law enforcement
Addicts would no longer be forced to pay for overpriced black market drugs. So they won't steal to get drugs. That would reduced crimes indirectly associated to drugs. Also, police time could be used more efficiently by dedicating time and money to fighting real criminals [the kind that harms others]. The same principle applies to judges.
By legalizing the use of drugs, you can also control the areas where drugs are used. In other words, you can have crack heads concentrated in a particular area of town. They usually won't go more than a few blocks away from where they get their fix. Making it possible to separate drug user populations, so thatpotheads won't evolve into crackheads.
History has proven that by legalizing a substance you can regulated more efficiently. The best example of this is alcohol. Is a lot easier to get crack than alcohol for a school kid.
Healthcare
The benefits of currently proscibed drugs could be more widely studied. MDMAis promising in such fields as psicology, marijuana can be usefull in such fields as terminal cancer threatments, and geriatrics. LSD and other triptamines could be used in the treatment of chronic depression.
The avaibility of pure drugs, with the active ingredient concentrations clearly stated, will make OD's a lot less frecuent. Making it a lot easier for doctors. Not to mention that without the fear of incrimination patients would be more open to disscuss with physicians their drug addictions and the interaction of such drugs with other prescription drugs.
Freedom
Every person should be FREE to decide what to do with his/her body, as long as it doesn't affect the freedom of others. This is the main reason why all drugs should be legal.
billyloner
20-02-2005, 19:28
agree with every point xctico made. also, legalising all drugs would cut down on the amount of drug related crime such as gun fights and general drug gang warfare. what is the point of fighting a war on drugsto reduce gang-related crime, when it is your war on drugsthat causes the problem in the first place? if the street price of $10,000 of pure cocaine is $100,000 (just a rough estimate) you will get many people wishing to fight over such a profit margin. if the profit margin was only a few hundred dollars per kilo who would want to risk their life for it?
what i dont understand is how america managed to learn a hard lesson with alcohol prohibition and the related crime that accompanied it, and yet they make exactly the same mistake with other drugs. and so does the rest of the world.
also, there is the link to terrorist organisations such as farc or similar groups. they get a lot of profit from the drug industry. if drugs were legalised, it would deal quite a blow to them.
agree with every point xctico made. also,
legalising all drugs would cut down on the amount of drug related crime
such as gun fights and general drug gang warfare. what is the point of
fighting a war on drugsto reduce gang-related crime, when it is
your war on drugsthat causes the problem in the first place? if
the street price of $10,000 of pure cocaine is $100,000 (just a rough
estimate) you will get many people wishing to fight over such a profit
margin. if the profit margin was only a few hundred dollars per kilo
who would want to risk their life for it?
what i dont understand is how america managed to learn a hard lesson
with alcohol prohibition and the related crime that accompanied it, and
yet they make exactly the same mistake with other drugs. and so does
the rest of the world.
also, there is the link to terrorist organisations such as farc or
similar groups. they get a lot of profit from the drug industry. if
drugs were legalised, it would deal quite a blow to them.In
order to get gov's to understand such an aproach, you gotta make em
understand that legalizing all drugs is the most effective way to
reduce drug use... but that might be WAY too complicated for the mind
of your average politician...
i like weed, but tbh it shouldnt.
why : makes you pure lazy. everyone would be zombies.
the nation would turn more like amsterdam , no offence ( if u live there )but that would suck.
no offence , but smoke to much and u sink like weed all the time , go white in the faceand not care about personal appearance
youll definaly lose ambition
I cant be bothered with every loser who wont smoke it just cos its illegeal smoking it. They will if its legal , and that would b shit.
cancer etc..
it can also cause pscosis ( cant spell ). cant be good to have a load of crazy people running around.
I used to think that it should be legal , but I thought about it a bit more and hey.... its just my opinion.
I know your like thats your opinion but I really have to ask you what is it based on? I mean zombies because of weed? No way man weed is way to inspirational and even though u dont always think straight u think a whole lot.
Second a nation is not going to turn in to amsterdam because weed is going to be legalised. I dont know exactly what your aiming at but every mayor city has parts that are just shitty that's the way it is the only difference is there are coffeeshops here.
Not caring about their appearance just another thing seriously? Myself I make sure I look good enuf every day and as for other people just look around a bit man weed smokers have their own way of looking. Look at rastafarians look at people like snoopdogg look at queens of the stoneage fans and things like that.
Losing ambition can be true but even this varies for each person. Drugs react on how ur feeling they never create anything new.
The fact that something is illegal may stop some people but it also offers a trill so that would make no difference.
Cancer is only when you smoke it. Get a vaporizer and you already solve that problem. And maybe if people werent so hard on weed we wud have known by now if it is really a cure for it or not.
Im not exactly sure what u mean wiv ur last comment. Seriously dude I can respect anyones opinion but what is it based on. I mean you even used weed urself so you'd think you know what your talking about.
billyloner
21-02-2005, 13:07
In order to get gov's to understand such an aproach, you gotta make em understand that legalizing all drugs is the most effective way to reduce drug use... but that might be WAY too complicated for the mind of your average politician...
its gonna be a long way off, thats for sure. it would take a brave politician to stand up in front of a nation of people brainwashed by the antidrugs propaganda and say "we are going to legalise these". the only way i can see it will work is for it to be a more gradual process - as more people become tolerant of drugs, it will become easier for more 'radical' ideas such as the complete legalisation of all illegal drugs to take hold.
I should be legal to take the profits out of the blackmarket and private prisons.
I dobt legal weed would be any cheaper that black market weed, because the government would tax it heavily.
I'm not talking about making mary jane a cash cow for the already bloated governments of the developed world. I was thinking more along the lines of making it legal to buy/grow a few plants for personal/shared use. In my little world theremay still be laws against selling, but not sharing. This would take all the weed money out of the black market and still alow for cheep/free weed.
billyloner
22-02-2005, 16:18
i doubt the government would tax it all that heavily, because if they taxed it too heavily they would simply create a black market. and defeat half the point (in their eyes) oflegalising it in the first place...
jaked588
28-02-2005, 01:25
i think it should be legal because:
1. alchohol is legal and can mess you up as much as weed can any day.
2. cigarrettes are legal meaning there are already people smoking no matter what.
3. weed usually inspires creativity.
4. i donno but i dont think u can die from weed OD? correct me if im wrong.
5. i saw something on the news a couple days ago saying that weed can prevent alzheimers :)
I THINK IF MARIJUANA WAS LEGAL, THE LAW SHOULD BE YOU CANT SMOKE IN PUBLIC OR DRIVE HIGH, meaning that most people would be smoking at home where theycant cause much trouble.
EternalReaper
28-02-2005, 08:16
It should be legal cause it's kinda harmless. Cofee has killed
more people that marijuana. Cigaretter kill more people every minute
than marijuana has ever killed. You cannot OD on pot. It doesnt make
yoy crazy like Alcohol. It's not as deadly as cigarettes, nor as
addictive. It has many madicinal purposes. No one has ever died
strictly from pot, maybe of cancer, but the sun gives you cancer http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif. Alcohol is still more illegal and funks you up way more than pot ever will. Plus it's great fun and a good relaxant.<!--
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thekey tolegalizing theherb isto convince the government (swinging major to the conservative side) that they will somehow benefit from legalizing cannabis. a majority ofconversatives are not regular users of cannabis and they see no benefit for legalizing cannabis. conservatives like money. you have to provide hypotheticalstatistics regarding the economical benefit of legalizing cannabis. it would pump more money into the economy and maybe our dollar would increase in value a little, considering the worth of theit today. but the means by whichconvincing the government that is will be economical benefit is another story.ie ->webster defines conservative as: Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change;
Stingray_313
02-03-2005, 22:52
Another reason that i thought of recently: Cut down on
drug-dealing/gang violence. A common problem in America (as im sure it
is in other countries) is gangs and such getting too much power through
drug dealing and they sometimes become terrorists with their funds. If
marijuana was legalised (along with other drugs, not JUST marijuana),
it would cut their power/funds significantly, providing a safer, less
violent towns and cities across the world.
To go with this, the public would not have to go through these
dangerous sources to get their fix (as some of you have pointed out).
If the middle man is marked out, the prices would be lower (better for
us) and the dealers would lose power. Not to say drug dealers are bad
people, but in some situations, it can fund terrorists and gang
violence. If the focus on gangs and terrorists were reduced (they would
slowly reduce and break apart due to lack of funding), plus the
reduction of watching drug trafficing, their would be MUCH more money
for the government and local police to make a real difference by
stopping SERIOUS criminals (i.e., murderers, car theifs, etc.). The
whole system would be vastly improved upon the simple legalization of a
nearly harmless substance. The fact it is illegal is still a stupid,
ignorant fact that i suppose we will have to deal with until someone
finally sees that it really WOULD make a difference...
Lastly, I would like to thank those of you who have posted on this
thread. I would like to believe that our thoughts are being read and
taken into consideration by some government official as you read this.
Thank you all again, and the thread will remain open for any of you to
post more thoughts upon this topic. Peace.
(Random: my 100th post, yey http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Main reason for me as to why MJ should be made legal.
1. I love it and I think it's better then alochoal
2. I am sick and tired of bad deals, SWIM got ripped off twice today when buying two ounces of hash. Both deals were bad. At least if it was legal I might get value for money
billyloner
04-03-2005, 14:13
stingray - i agree with your points on gang related violence and terrorism. it is the point i was trying to make above. there is such a stupid amount of money available to drug dealers, how can you expect there not to be violence? i mean, you see the lengths nations goto for money (ie wars).
i know this link (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,6903,1385987,00.html) isnt related to marijuana, but it raises many interesting points about the 'war on drugs', in particular plan columbia, and it seems kinda relevant to the discussion...
The_Great_Sage
05-03-2005, 03:03
im begining to think that full legalization wouldnt be that good but i
do believe that the goverment should use it and be leniant (sp) and i
think that if we all opened our minds a little more (maybe not the drug
users but some) with or without drugs, than we as humans would be able
to function much easier as a race and we would coexsist in harmony. the
limitations made by modern civilization as made it so from the time we
are born we are built to think, act, speak, and feel how they want
us which is in a box that if we stray away from then we are
shunned and so with the help of drugs we can drop the limits of
this modern closed society and even this world. we could fly like birds
and create wonderful art and be peaceful. another thing that i relized
is that times dont change, focus does. like back in the times of
hippies they were shunned and looked down upon (good example is
the scene in the southern dinner from Easy Rider) and now we are still
looked down upon by the "normal" crowd or when we talk about freedom of
mind or anything then we are shut away and brushed off. the
legalisation would bring the average person to more of a intalectual
(sp)
so i think i could say that im split on my decision
A recent study has showed that smoking marijuana can slow down the memory loss with parkinson.
wow, that might be because many of the receptor cites for the thc are located in the hippocampus
hippocampus: a structure in the limbric system that plays a central role in the storing of new memories, the respnse to new or unexpected stimuli, and navigational ability
this explains the negative effect on the submission of info toshort-term memory, but someday in the future,this mighthelp toexplain why smoking cannabis can slow down memory-loss associated with parkinson's disease.
TypicalDream
06-03-2005, 17:29
I've come to the conclusion that weed is just about as effective as alcohol, minus the angry drunk syndrome. If you're responsible about it, you can have fun with good friends, good places, make some good times. Plus the probability of people becoming useless members of society, well ,i don't think that would happen. If it was legalized, I think certain states/companies would step in with their own regulations for employees and citizens. Otherwise I don't see a problem with it. Quite a few of the people I know smoke regularly, haven't aquired a nasty gut, and hold jobs that take up about 50 hours a week of their time. I think it depends on the person. I could be wrong, but it's all about your limits. I don't think I'd care either way if it was legalized. you can look at it one of two ways. You can state that it would make everyone a bunch of slackers, like the movies tend to portray. Or, for those it does have that effect on, you all of a sudden look that much better if you're an "upstanding" citizen. Plus the simple act of legalizing weed, well, it certainly leaves a LOT more open time to work on problem areas in the country. And the revenue the government would make on regulating it, like they do tobacco, could just as well help work on our countries money problems, but then thats a ramble I'm not gonna get into.
deathmarch
06-03-2005, 22:21
There is only ONE reason it should be legal:
It's called FREEDOM
Pot, like all drugs, is an inanimate object with no will or power of
its own. You should be able to smoke as much as you want of
whatever you want, and until you hurt someone else that isn't anyone
else's business.
We can't have the government banning inanimate objects to prevent people from what they might do with them.
When you commit a crime, ie murder, whether you're stoned or drunk or sober shouldn't matter, only the crime itself.
exactly... amerika's law are to oppress are certain type ofppl. (gay rights, women sufferage, slavery, etc.) in addition to amillion other reasons that don't make sence, cannabis was made illegal becuase it was the traditional (along with tequila) psychoactive that the mexicans used.
laws are suppose to prohibate one person frominfringing on another persons rights... anddoes one personsmoking cannabis infringe onanother person'srights?
highasakite
08-03-2005, 18:36
it is an ABSOLUTE hypocrisy that alcohol is legal but weed isnt. alcohol killed 19,000 people in england last yearaccording to one english paper and weed killed about, errr, maybe NONE!!! it makes me sick just thinking about it.http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley11.gif
in the middle east, marijuana grows like a "weed" and they could make
so much money if they let the people of afganastan sell their product,
as opposed to spending money to destroy it.
so they could help allot of the world if they legalized it.
and you cant od, government could tax it, people make more money.
purplehaze
16-03-2005, 07:37
I think that marijauna should be legal because it makes everybody happy that ive seen it doesnt make people wanna go kill people it makes everybody get along except one guy i know who is a complete idiot when he smokes but that comes with alcohol to i think the government hasnt made it legal because driving you cant have a roadside test if your high the cops cant tell for sure if your high inless your and idiot and start laughing at him which will definitally get you put in jail and alcohol needs to be banned for some people, some people i know get drunk and wanna fight all the time and end up hurting each other and ontop of that they wake up with a hangover ive never woke up with a hangover from marijuana i think they should legalize it and put a limit on how much you can buy so people wont be busting the block up and ruin it for everyone selling to children and get it illegalized again and i think you should be 21 to buy it and you can only buy a ounce a day thats only fair if you smoke and drive it should be like aalcohol test because i can drive fine even if im tore slap up but ive seen some people who cant and im willing to not drive if im under the influence just because the simple fact that some people cant stay in there own lane plus id rather be at home ordering some pizza anyways.
*I guess I decided that should all be one "HUGE" sentence. I tend to do that from time to time I guess. LOL
PenguinPhreak
04-04-2005, 07:55
In my opinion the pros and cons of
marijuana use are a totally different issue than why it should be
legal. Even if it was the nasty, vile substance most governments
would have us believe it is, that is no reason to make it illegal.
The very concept of regulating behavior because it might be unhealthy
is totally absurd. People die all the time of obesity related health
problems due too an excessively</span> fatty diet,
but you don't see people being arrested for buying a cheeseburger.
Its really no ones business</span> if you choose
to use drugs or not as long as your use doesn't hurt anyone else.
Drugs are obviously not a large societal problem, but prohibition
definitely</span> is. We are squandering billions
every year to fill up our prisons</span> past
their capacity with people who have never even hurt anyone. Not only
this, but prohibition creates profitable black market opportunities
and gets organized crime involved in drug trade. It also makes
quality control impossible. If drugs could be sold openly by
legitimate businesses you would never have to worry about getting
something other than what you thought you were getting.
thebest reason is - tell me if i'm wrong - you cant die from mj, nor fromoverdose nor from withdrawal.
on the other hand, a chronic alcoholist, who's been drinking lots of amountsfor years, and suddenly found himself without alcohol for a day or two, may die, having too high insuline. i was shocked when i was told that.
isnt it a good enough reason to sale mj in duty free's instead of all those martinis and stuff...
PenguinPhreak
06-04-2005, 01:46
That's correct elina. Alcohol kills many people through overdose or
going cold turkey after long periods of habitual use. This lethal
withdrawl also happens on various other depressants. While on the other
hand, pot has never killed anyone, as far as I know there isn't even a
known LD50 for THC or any other canabinoid.
Hi! What is LD50?
i know that you cannot develop physical dependency onmj, the dependency is purely psychological. i nevertried quitting and never wanted to, however, i remember finding myself stuck without weed for a month and it didnt feel too good.
i'm smoking for7 years already and i feel that i dont get as stoned as i used to. is it because mybrain got used to it? is it because i get a bad stuff? i remember having the most beautiful experiences while stoned and for last years its all gone suddenly. do you have a same problem? is it something known?
purplehaze
08-04-2005, 13:00
Yeah, its call tolerance, stop smoking for about 2 weeks and walla, you feel like its your first time again.
Thanks, i'll try, although thefirst fewtimes i only felt i'm having a fever or something... he-he-he http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gifBut first few years were definitelty the best!
Anyways - may be if it waslegal then i would have no problem of always getting the best stuff... Ah, egoistic purposes...Is it gonna be legal one day thoughor are we all moving to Amsterdam? Like I said - duty free mj shopping would be pretty cool! But - hmm - didnt think about this before:having a paranoya trip during the flight might be pretty scary...
All right, i guess my humor is getting worse with every joke, i'm not stoned though if thats what you think - but i really wish i would be!
.. Have fun! http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif
Stoners of the world - unite!
clemenzo
11-04-2005, 21:46
it shud b legal simple as:
holland were weed is legal t a certain extend it has one of the lowest
percentages of people hu smoke or have smoked it were as britain has
one of the highests ratios summit like 60% of 15 year olds av tried it
or do it regualy.
u cant od off it
it wud b cheaper
crime acosiated with it wud b non existant
government wud make shit loads of cash
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P!MPJU!C3
12-04-2005, 09:46
the nation would turn more like amsterdam , no offence ( if u live there )*but that would suck.
I take offence though. Who the fuck do u think u are? Have u ever been to Amsterdam? Do u know that Holland is more that just a weed nation? Holland is one of the richest countries in the world. Who the fuck u think partially colonized u? Maybe van der Bilt rigs a bell? DUTCH! Maybe van Buren rigs a bell? DUTCH! Harlem? HAARLEM! Brooklyn? BREUKELEN! Y might wanna look at some stats aswell which will tell u that the Dutch arent excessive users of anything.
P!MPJU!C3
searcher
12-04-2005, 13:56
Why should it be legal? It has to do with freedom.
I should be free to do as I see fit in my own home.
Weed should be regulated like tobacco and alcohol.
You should be able to grow weed for yourself.
I guess that the government and lawmakers believe that weed is dangerous.
big-lester
29-05-2005, 16:09
Weed should be legal world wide
Why? because It will solve the wood problem;
Paper is made of wood, more of the jungles in Africa and South-America
are being chopped down every second, but you can also make paper out of
hemp.
You can make clothing out of hemp, Many countrys with economical
problems like in africa or in the mid-east could make clothing out of
hemp
instad of cotton wich they can't grow there
the nation would turn more like amsterdam , no offence ( if u live there )but that would suck.
no offence , but smoke to much and u sink like weed all the time ,
go white in the faceand not care about personal appearance
Allright about this, I can't understand the "no offence" shit, I really
take it as an offence because you're saying that every person who lives
in A'dam is a pothead, have u ever been there? I found A'dam the
nicest city I lived in, the people are nice and friendly and the
coffeeshops won't hurt you, not everyone is a pothead in the
netherlands, infact I think there won't be much more stoners in the
Netherlands than in America. And if it's legal people won't smoke all
the day long, they are asking money for it you know?? and the personal
appearance shit that is the most stupid thing I've ever heard. Stoners
aren't like heroin addicts they DO care about JOBS, they DO care
about SCHOOL, they DO care about APPEARANCE because stoners have
to fuck too you know. I just want to say this just as any Stoner from
A'dam would do.
Nature Boy
30-05-2005, 01:36
The main reason why marijuana should be legalised is that it weakens organised crime. It is estimated the some of the world's leading drug barons make 50% of their profits off marijuana sales. That's an incredible figure when you consider how massive the illegal drugs industry is. This is an industry that has been accumulating for decades on end and there's actually no way of knowing how much money these people have by now.
If you prevent them from selling marijuana, they automatically lose the so-called "war on drugs" because they won't have the funds to finance corruption and gang wars on as large a scale.
Everyone has made valid points on the general legalisation of MJ.
Even if it is never made legal like alchohol here is why I think it
should be approved for medical use. Also here are some of the arguments
against it which I have encountered in speaking about this with people
who are against medical use.
"It is just an excuse for people to get high." "</span>Well
about 20% of high school seniors have used prescription drugs to get
high because they thought these drugs were somehow safer than MJ."
"prescription drugs are safer, theyve been tested by the FDA"</span>"Really?
Safer? How many people died from marijauna last year? Prescription
drugs? People have been using MJ for hundreds of years.How long has the
FDA been around for?"
"Ok but it will just increase crime if people know they can rob a store for it, just like oxycontins"</span>(my
head starting hurt)"The people who use MJ recreationally would be able
to get it easier from a dealer than robbing a pharmacy, its already
widely availble and cheap on the black market. The only people who we
are keeping MJ from right now is the ones who could benefit from it.ie
cancer patients who can't out of bed, elderly who obviously arent
hookin up on the street and terminally ill who could use an effective
pain treatment. How many of those do you think are gonna be
commiting robbery?"
"Well still, I dont know any doctors who use MJ for treatment now."(</span>vein
in forehead quite swollen)"Look around and stop watching fox news so
much. Alot of drs think it has many beneficial effects for treatment.
They would use it but its still illegal in this state."
"there must be a reason its illegal then"</span> shake head in frustration and walk away.
The moral of the story is to not waste our collective breath on
those who wont listen no matter what. Take these facts and get them to
everyone who will listen to reason then perhaps progress can be made.</span>
uglfy, that was brilliant
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by the way - is your signature taken from bob dylan's song? just curious...
Thanks for the props Elinahttp://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif
I think its William Blake actually, although I wouldnt be surprised if it is in a Dylan song.
JewishNazi
03-06-2005, 02:21
I read in a paper a couple years back that they finally managed to OD a
rat after injecting it with synthetic THC which was the equivalent of
7lbs of bud.
Marijuana has only a third of the carcenogens that tobacco has when burnt.
I see the laziness and apathy that pot produces in some people to be a
good thing. Pot can make an abusive father the highlight of your day
with his new-found humour and inability to connect with a good punch
Nature Boy
03-06-2005, 19:47
I see the laziness and apathy that pot produces in some people to be a
good thing. Pot can make an abusive father the highlight of your day
with his new-found humour and inability to connect with a good punch
Good point. However there are plenty of good points that can be obscured with weaker arguments backed with corruption. There's no winning in the foreseeable future.
Creeping Death
03-06-2005, 23:08
I think that it will be legal in most of europe in the next 10 years.
Pot doesn't produce lazyness and apathy. It depends on the person. In jamaica they smoke bud so that they'll be able to work harder and faster. I was lazy and apathic long before i started using drugs. They sometimes even have the opposite effect on me.
If enough people get up and say "we want it legal", it'll be legal for sure. So spread the word.
Nature Boy
04-06-2005, 17:58
I think that it will be legal in most of europe in the next 10 years.
That won't include Ireland though. Our government is very backwards when it comes to things like this. If they banned smoking tobacco in public places, what are the odds for decriminalising weed?
It's grand for you in Sweden. People are a lot more progressive about those kind of things over there. People here are very old-fashioned, under-educated and stubborn.
I think a reason it is still illegal is because the government wouldn't
be able to tax it, really. People would just grow it instead of buying
it, so they would lose that money, while just busting the little people
with a couple grams of bud gets them way more money.
It's a shame they try to make it look so bad, when cig and alcohol are many many many times worse.
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Nature Boy
05-06-2005, 19:12
I think a reason it is still illegal is because the government wouldn't
be able to tax it, really. People would just grow it instead of buying
it, so they would lose that money, while just busting the little people
with a couple grams of bud gets them way more money.
It's a shame they try to make it look so bad, when cig and alcohol are many many many times worse.
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That is true, although so unfair. Why don't people grow their own tobacco though? Because it's easier to buy it.
When you think of it, if companies were set up to sell weed in cigarette packets like tobacco, maybe they could tax it properly while freeing up millions of wrongly-convicted criminals. Marlboro greens anyone?
Creeping Death
05-06-2005, 22:34
I think that it will be legal in most of europe in the next 10 years.
That won't include Ireland though. Our government is very backwards when it comes to things like this. If they banned smoking tobacco in public places, what are the odds for decriminalising weed?
It's grand for you in Sweden. People are a lot more progressive about those kind of things over there. People here are very old-fashioned, under-educated and stubborn.
They're not really. Smoking in public was banned here too just a few days ago. I doubt the police will enforce it, but the law exists.
Things are tough like that all over. Nobody knows the facts about the hemp. But it will change all over europe in the next 10 years i think. Real studies can be done in holland. And pretty soon the new, young, pot smoking generation will take over and tell people what the deal is.
potsmokingpimp
12-06-2005, 19:29
I am a 20 year old from Tennessee and here are my opinions on the subject of legal marijuana.&n bsp;&n bsp;&n bsp;&n bsp;&n bsp;&n bsp;&n bsp;&n bsp; #1- weed does not make you lazy. I am a college athelete who has been smoking since my soph. year in high school and i practice every day. along with this i have a part time job and work 20-25 hours a week in a factory (along with 20 hrs of practice) I do everything that any non-smoking person does. I have a 3.5 GPA and i smoke ALOT of weed so idisagree with that argument.&nb sp;&nb sp;&nb sp;&nb sp;&nb sp;&nb sp;&nb sp;&nb sp; #2- weed SHOULD be legalized in ths u.s simply because it is the same as alcohol If the government could come up with a "breathalizer" that will measure the amount of thc in your system that is all it would take.& nbsp;& nbsp;& nbsp;& nbsp;& nbsp;& nbsp; #3- I I personally smoke half a zone a day and have for 2 years. if the government would realize that there are so many of us stoners out there and alot of people dont smoke but would if not for all of the legal issues.
If the government would sell weed in gas stations like cigarettes they would make enough money to help the problems we are experiencing with the budget. Marijuana has the potential to be beneficial in many ways to the government and one day they will realize this.
potsmokingpimp
12-06-2005, 20:35
[QUOTE=biga
Pot smokers often end up on harder drugs eventually. I don't think this is because cannabis is a 'gateway drug', but because since people need to use black market dealers to get it, once they have a contact established for getting pot they can also get all manner of other drugs as well. Over here at least, there's no realmoney in selling cannabis on a street level. Dealers would much rather you buy pills, charles or smack because there's more room for profit, so sooner or later they'll encourage you to turn your relatively harmless pot habit into a smack addiction. Legalising pot would make it much less likely that your average joe would use a black marketdealer, and this would minimalise exposure to drugs that can actually do some damage.
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This is so true. This is a good angle to support legalization.http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif
potsmokingpimp
12-06-2005, 20:37
sorry i havent got down the quoting thing yet
IvoryQueen
13-06-2005, 17:42
my views!
PRO's
(1) It helps with illnesses such as MS. (2) it could be taxed-the money could be put into medical care, schools etc instead of the pockets of drug dealers and criminals. (3) usage could be monitered. (4) it could carry health warnings-which would give honest info (5) age restrictions could be put inplace (6) unlike alcohol- it doesnt cause agression
CON's
(1)Evidence that it causes depression (2) 'gateway drug'- people tend to move on to other substances.(3) memory problemsEdited by: IvoryQueen
happatai
14-06-2005, 22:22
well despite all the pros and cons, i believe that as long as you're in
privacy, it shouldnt matter if you smoke marijuana. Just like you can't
go out drinking in public and causing drunken chaos, but being a
responsible drinker in the comfort of your own home does not effect the
outside public.
I believe the same should go for marijuana. If you're in privacy and
not under the influence while driving or in public, (even though
walking down the street high isnt necessarily 'dangerous' to you or
others) theres no reason for it to be illegal.
Think about it, you can be drunk in your own home, but while driving or
in public. Why? that's obvious. If you're high on marijuana and not in
public or doing anything that could potentially be harmful/dangerous to
others, it should not matter. it's your own choice.
alcohol causes many deaths, health problems, and problems with families
and your own life, but remains legal. An occasianal marijuana user that
uses marijuana privately should not be a criminal or a 'menace to our
society'.
There are infinite reasons weed should be legal in the united
states, at any rate.
1. banning marijuana is like prohibition- it has a highly minimal
effect
2. the government could put a very high tax on it, and thus
increase revenue for the federal government
3. the government could also control THC content
4. as for shoplifting, it could be held in stores the same way
cigarettes are -but not alcohol (behind a counter)
5. one of the biggest concerns about legalization is that
vehicular homicide and accidents in general will trebel based
on people driving stoned, however the united states has the
resources to create a sort of opium den thing, except for stoners
-people could pay a certain fixed amount (more government
money) and have a place to stay, eat, w/e
-some low-down beurocrat could monitor the soberness of
the people present, and prevent them from leaving until
they're close enough to normal
6. it makes sense. by legalizing marijuana in all circumstances,
the gov. would be giving cancer/glaucoma patients an option
and giving other people a non-addictive high
And as for teen use . . . I'm fourteen. I have been stoned, high,
drunk . . . the government warnings dont do shit. legal or
illegal, its not much of a deterrant for the majority of youths.
And legalization would have innumerable government
advantages.
dr.octagon
22-01-2006, 21:39
In todays american culture, people tend to do everything in excess. From fast food to television, americans can turn almost anything into an addiction or a habit. If marijuana were to be unleashed on such an unstable culture the effects would be horrendous. It would spread like wildfire and the nation would collapse under such strain. Marijuana would be everywhere, and not only will it be used by everybody, it will be very very cheap if made legal. It is true that the economy will make millions, but is it worth it? If mass quantities of cheap marijuana were to be made available to each and ever American, the effects would be crippling. In my opinion many people do not know when to stop. The comparatively small percentage of people who use marijauna daily are the ones, usually, who know how to control themselves and not do it in extreme excess (to the point where it inhibits you from living a normal life). A sudden move to legalize marijuana would be detrimental, but a drawn out plan to slowly legalize marijuana over a long period of time would be the best way. If marijuana were slowly introduced to mainstream American culture, then it would not be such a shock, and would be more accepted and less abused.
just my 2 cents
Nature Boy
23-01-2006, 01:20
I don't see how marijuana would be done is such excess that it would cause the nation to "collapse under such strain" as you put it. If a lot of people suddenly start smoking pot, it's not gonna cause every car to crash, every worker to stay in bed and make millions of people go crazy. America doesn't do everything in uniform. There are thousands of different types of people in the USA. Not all of them are TV-addicted, fast food-eating, alcoholic, chain-smoking slobs, and legalising marijuana wouldn't create a nation of stoners.
polloloco001
23-01-2006, 02:11
what kind of ridiculous logic leads you to believe that daily stoners are the kind of people who know how to use marijuana responsibly. daily smokers are the people who smoke weed every day already even though its illegal, making them the ones who would be smoking too much weed if it were legal. and legalization would not cause everybody to smoke weed. a lot of people dont smoke weed, not because its illegal but because they see it as a degenerative pastime for long haired hippies who dont qualify as real americans. legalization wouldnt change this culture gap. marijuana being as legal as peaches starting this very second wouldnt fuck up anything.
carousel
31-01-2006, 02:20
comes to a point where you gotta say fuck the american way of life. fuck what the average person tells you how to live. they dont know.
its better illegal. the goverment would fuck us over in some way or form. if pot was legal, do u think itd be cheaper than it is now? fuck no.
if anything, alchohol should be illegal.
pharmapsyche
31-01-2006, 02:56
Oh man, there are so many reasons why Cannabis Sativa should become legalized. And by that, i'm not just saying legalize it all together, how about legalize marijuana at the age 21, as alcohol is? Personally, I think it should be at age 18, just as Nicotine, but I see more people agreeing on the age 21 than 18.
If Alcohol is legal at age 21, why shouldn't Cannabis? Alcohol is one of the most common strong psychoactives used by humans because of it's use for it's intoxicating effects. Alochol is a diuretic that block Anti-Diuretic Hormone form regulating the osmotic gradient of the blood normally, which means it is not the overall amount of fluids, but the total alcohol content that affects a human. My intentions here are not to dis alcohol, but to show how it's more harmful than Cannabis Sativa. Ofcourse Cannabis has postive qualitys such as relaxation, mood life, talkativeness, and analgesia...but so does cannabis! But, unlike Cannabis, alcohol has a dramatic effect when it comes to decreased corrdination, nausea/vomiting, reducing implus control, diziness, confusion, blackouts and memory loss at high doses, brain damage with heavy useage, and hang overs that can last up to 36 hours after mild to hevay use the night/day before.
Marijauna on the other hand, is a plant that produces the psychoactive THC. It is the most used psychoactive and also has a long history of MEDICAL, recreation, and INDUSTRIAL use.
Also, the active ingredients in Cannabis are called cannabinoids. There are many cannabinoids synthesized by the plant which include tetrahydrocannabinol, cannabionl, cannabidiol, cannabinolidic acid, cannabigerol, and cannbichromene. But, delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol is the cannaboid to be responsible for the most of the psychoactive effects of cannabis and is the active ingredient in the synthetic THC pill called Marinol, which is used for Medical uses such as an antiemetic, which is a drug which relieves nausea and allows patients to eat and live normally. Medical Marijuana can be used to also treat illnesses such as Multiple Sclerosis, Glaucoma, and used in the treatment of AIDS/HIV and Cancer.
...my goal is to one day legalize marijauna, you all just wait!
bottlekop
09-05-2006, 17:40
i like weed, but tbh it shouldnt.
why : makes you pure lazy. everyone would be zombies.
no offence , but smoke to much and u sink like weed all the time , go white in the faceand not care about personal appearance
youll definaly lose ambition
it can also cause pscosis ( cant spell ). cant be good to have a load of crazy people running around.
i didn't read all the post, but i read this one and i disagree. :mad: marijuana does NOT make you lazy!!! YOU make YOU LAZY!:mad: dont' blame the herb if you decide to become that way! i know many people who have smoked everyday for many years and are hard working people (and swim included!:smoking: ;) ). and stopping carring about your apearance? what?! i have never heard of that before. but it is probably the result of it being illeagal as it promotes a bad mentality for the smokker, as if he is doing something wrong and therefore is lower than others and doesn't need to take care of them selves. and in any case that is a very stupid mentality IMO(doing something illeagal or not). again, don't blame marijuana, blame you (it's your fault after all : only a bad craftsman blames his tools when he does a shit job of something). and the thing about it causing psychosis is not proven and probably only effects people who are prone to mental illness(hereditory diseases and such).
sorry for ranting but that always gets me mad when people claim that the herb makes you lazy or a lesser kind of person.
bottlekop
09-05-2006, 17:43
legalization would not cause everybody to smoke weed. a lot of people dont smoke weed, not because its illegal but because they see it as a degenerative pastime for long haired hippies who dont qualify as real americans. legalization wouldnt change this culture gap. marijuana being as legal as peaches starting this very second wouldnt fuck up anything.
definetly agree here.
comes to a point where you gotta say fuck the american way of life. fuck what the average person tells you how to live. they dont know.
its better illegal. the goverment would fuck us over in some way or form. if pot was legal, do u think itd be cheaper than it is now? fuck no.
if anything, alchohol should be illegal.
AMEN! legal or not, smoke that pot.
StigmataLectron
09-05-2006, 20:12
^Pretty much. I don't think legalising would create new users - it would only bring the stoners out of the shadows. There's really nothing wrong with smoking weed in spare time, just like there's nothing wrong with drinking in spare time, if that's what floats your boat.
In response to the title of the thread: Why not?
My country was originally founded on the idea of Liberty - the ideology that people should be able to do as they choose, as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others. Some of the things this country was founded on was hit-or-miss (take Capitalism, what a failure), but I really think these guys were onto something when they said your life shouldn't be controlled by a monarch. I bet you anything Washington or Franklin would shit his pants if he saw the world today - I have the right to remain silent. Anything I say or do can and will be used against me in the court of law.
Liberty is good. What a person does to themselves or another consenting individual is NO business at all of the state. I don't think that "harmful" things are an exception. Even if weed could kill you at your first hit, I think people should have the right to it if it floats their boat. Of course, I'm a guy who thinks people should have the liberty to wear their grandma's underwear and shit their pants sitting on the floor picking insects off the ground and eating them, if they're so inclined.
stoneinfocus
05-07-2006, 04:51
Most of those having problems with marijuhana have them, because they´ve not yet found the drugs that´re or will be giving them what they´re searching for and they´r e tp stupid to search around, which isn´t their fault either because weed is kust the onmly illigel thing tha´s common and "cool" for most and soooo natural. *aarghh*
BTW I hate pot-smokers just as much as I hate heavy alcoholics and in a THC Non-tolerant smoker I can hardly see any differnces between those, while someone with a THC-tolerance smoking weed might be a cool, normaöl guy -at least for 10-20 years... , if he´s on speed sometimes to get clear-mindend -just being sarcastic, but for most it holds true and Ißm not blaminf the use of uppers!
I think most problems occure through any restrictions made in choosing your drug or medicine and our too convenient lifestyle.
Nagognog2
05-07-2006, 07:29
Ya know - you have made it quite clear that gassing pot-smokers would be cool with you in a previous thread. Yet you extoll the virtues of using amphetamines 24/7 and want them sold OTC. Now you bring "hate pot-smokers" into a marijuana forum, I suggest you think about this irony for awhile. Say a week.
For harrassing our members - in pure contempt of your last sentence of your statement - say goodbye for one week's time.
("smoke 'em if you got 'em." )
Hahaha, only a week, are we getting soft lately?
@co-incidence: If you return to the forum, keep in mind that you basically just said that you hate almost everyone in here. You are of course entitled to your own opinions, but as we would say in Sweden: You just took a shit in the blue locker, LOL! In other words, you just made an ass out of yourself, nice work dude!
Oh, and to answer the question (sorry): I find it redicilous to even have to argue about why it should be legal, when there is not a single good argument on why it should be kept illegal in the first place (to my knowledge) , and when there are tobacco to buy in every corner of the world. Smoking tobacco IS dangerous in the long run, and still it is not the subject of the governments anti-propaganda and campaigns that I see every now and then when it comes to cannabis and other drugs. Its beneficial effects on people with different conditions, such as cancer, are hardly ever discussed at all by the governments, at least not so the masses can take part of it. This is pure hypocrisy, it would be interesting to see who would profit the most from cannabis if the voters made it safe for the governments to decriminalize and market it, without losing face. Not only as a medicine, but also as a plain herb to use as you wish.