View Full Version : Dose - What would be good Xanax (Alprazolam) dosage? Experienced User
As SWIM understands it, it is quite difficult to OD on a benzo alone. He has been taking dosages of around 4mg without really getting intoxicated. Would it be safe to switch to a dosage of 6?
There's some tolerance issues there! SWIJ wouldn't jump to 6mg. She would go up in 0.5's just to be cautious. SWIY can always take more, but they can never take less.
SWIJ also finds that the amnesia effects get greater with increasing the doses. Many times she woke up with little memory of what had happened, an empty bottle of pills and a house resembling a disaster zone.
IBEBANGIN666
12-02-2007, 18:31
There's some tolerance issues there! SWIJ wouldn't jump to 6mg. She would go up in 0.5's just to be cautious. SWIY can always take more, but they can never take less.
SWIJ also finds that the amnesia effects get greater with increasing the doses. Many times she woke up with little memory of what had happened, an empty bottle of pills and a house resembling a disaster zone.
Good advice. 2mg jump is too much at one time. Sounds like SWIM has quite a tolerance for benzos. benzos were THE MOST DIFFICULT substances for SWIM to kick, more so than even heroin. Be careful.
IBEBANGIN666
12-02-2007, 18:35
Good advice. 2mg jump is too much at one time. Sounds like SWIM has quite a tolerance for benzos. benzos were THE MOST DIFFICULT substances for SWIM to kick, more so than even heroin. Be careful.
It is actually quite easy to OD on benzos. If SWIM is very prone to amnesia, SWIM may not remember how many pills were taken, what else was taken, etc. A chap SWIM knows OD'ed this way, but was able to be revived (luckily).
The PDR says if you exceede 4mg/day the risk for dependance jumps and other bad things will happen.SWIM been to 6 writers and cant/couldn't get one to break the 4mg/day barrier.them docs live by that number.SWIM is pushing one atm for 6mg/day.Not so much to eat 6mg/day but hes sick of the 1 refill,maybe having a pill left on appt. day. depending where the 60th day falls.SWIM wants a lil back up.
mikejones
10-10-2007, 00:45
SWIM is used to popping 4 hydrocodone/APAP 750s and gets really high. One of SWIMS friends has xanax. How much should SWIM take of xanax?
Matt The Funk
10-10-2007, 03:21
How much does SWIY weigh? A nice dose that won't make SWIyou too tired could possibly be 1-2mg
Remember that your flamingo can always take more, they can never take less. They should start low and work their way up.
0.25-0.5mg might be appropriate. Leaping in with higher doses could easilly result in sleep for the benzo-naive
SWiM doesn't have a flamingo, but his hippopotamus from outer space fell asleep like a log when he tried a benzo for the first time. It was 40 mg's of diazepam. That is a high amount by the way. A week later he was up all night long after 200 mg's, which is a very large amount, sometimes fatal for some people and especially in combination with alcohol for example. Tolerance comes very fast and many people don't even remember their starting dosage, so don't take the same amounts experienced users would. I'm not going to argue with Queen Jatelka's advice, but personally SWiM would start at 1 mg. Everyone's different though.
SWIM feels that Jatelka is there to make sure that SWIMMERS know that substances can be dangerous and as such, is more conservative. Thats a good thing, as it is a harm-reduction forum, and there are waaaay too many people that think "hey its a pill, its gotta be safe".
Back on the subject, SWIM's favorite dosage is 4mg, but thinks that even 2mg may be too strong for a beginner. SWIM is tolerant to benzos, so 4mg will likely cause a blackout/pass out reaction to many people. He agrees with HH, 1mg is a good dose. Xanax/Alprazolam is a very quickly acting drug, it only takes roughly 15 minutes to kick in for SWIM. If you want to go further, SWIY can take more quickly.
Largely, Xanax is a very safe medication. It is prescribed in dosages up to 2mg/4x daily, in fact, SWIM was in the hospital after experiencencing a panic attack for the first time, and was given 2 2mg alprazolam/xanax tablets to help. He is fairly sure this wouldn't cause an overdose (you CAN overdose, though) but rather your biggest danger is total amnesia, passing out, and/or doing stupid things. And trust an experienced SWIMMER, that IS a danger.
mikejones
10-10-2007, 23:45
Lol. SWIM weighs 215 so SWIM would prolly need a large dosage. SWIM has heard of ppl doin some dumb shit while on xanax.
MikeJones-
Just make sure you start slow, its easy to re-dose 20 minutes later, but very difficult to un-dose yourself :)
In what form are your tablets? .25, .5, 1mg, or 2mg bars? Swim thinks that 4mg is easily better than heaven. However, 6mg is a pointless blackout. 2mg, on the other hang 'rounds the corners' of a rough day. Yummy.
Matt The Funk
11-10-2007, 05:55
SWIM weight fluctuates between 140-155lbs a lot and 1mg will only give him a light buzz, similar too a few beers(yet different, as it is xanax after all). But as everyone said before about starting slow, I forgot to say that, and it's true. Once SWIyou dose you aren't going back, and SWIyou can easily raise the dose in time, to find that sweet spot. For SWIY weight SWIM thinks 3mg might be our sweet spot, but SWIM would start at 1mg, and work his way up by .5mg until he finds that sweet spot. And once the experience is over, you will have a close gauge to your sweet spot. Also don't mix with alcohol.
Herb Shaman
12-10-2007, 02:18
Swiy should take 2-2.5 mg and smoke a few bowls.
2-2.5mg`Xanax is the equivalent of 40-50mg of diazepam. Which would knock the vast majority of the benzo-naive flat on their ass.
Bear in mind, also, that a higher body-weight is not necessarily an indicator for the need for larger initial doses.
I know you all think I'm a clucking hen, but for harm reduction purposes (and in my flamingos distinctly unhumble opinion) a good initial dose for the benzo-naive is significantly lower than 2mg
JiggaMan
15-10-2007, 13:37
xanax does not come in 2.5 mlg tablets!!!!!????? 1 mg is good for a starting dose or even 0.5
2-2.5mg`Xanax is the equivalent of 40-50mg of diazepam. Which would knock the vast majority of the benzo-naive flat on their ass.
Queen is correct. SWIM is 6'3'' 250 lbs and he takes 1mg and is very calming.
2mg would not swim down. Start at .75mg to 1mg.
mrphucker
15-10-2007, 23:02
xanax does affect very quickly yes,wait an hour for the full on effects before deciding whether to redose
1.5/2mg swmi would reccomend
Good advice here.
Whatever your tolerance try 1mg first and wait a few hours.
If it knocks you down reduce dosage. If you barely feel it
then try 2mg.
Be careful with whatever you decide to start with. .5 mg of Xanax makes SWIM seemingly pass out/fall asleep within a half hour (everything seems to turn to static tingling and he doesn't enjoy it). He and a buddy of his split a 2 mg bar once and his friend later told him that she later passed out in a bathtub.
SWIM suggests starting with .25 to be on the safe side, but it all depends on how it makes SWIY feel.
BruceMAn
24-10-2007, 18:59
haha Homer just took 2 mg. 10 minutes ago.. 143 pounds. Feels great!
SWIM would say xanax (alprazolam) is ones of those drugs where the answer to "what is a good dose?" is on a par with "how long is a piece of string?"
Yeah you can say this with a lot of drugs but for example "how much mdma to take for the first time?" is a question that can been answered with reasonable logic.
The medical profession can't agree on what dose, efficacy, withdrawal of benzo's in clinical settings so apart from reading some basic info on alprazolam (xanax) that's going to be a hard question to answer.
SWIM would recommend being careful with benzo's. Tolerance and addiction is something that creeps up on people much more quietly than other traditionally addictive drugs. Keep safe. :)
SWIM recommend .75mg to start.
1mg will have strong effect.
2mg advise go to bed.
This all depends on your tolerance level.
YMMV.
bl0whydr0420
26-10-2007, 09:02
swim is a tiny person, 5'11", 130lb.
swim has taken xanax three times, all three times was a 1mg dose.
this was enough to make swim passout after a few hours and not have any memory after swim woke up.
just start low, dont want to take too much at once and passout and waste the trip. swim would suggest 1mg, and up the dose .5mg as needed.
GreatWonder
27-10-2007, 09:25
SWIG recently took 0.75mg in preparation for a flight. SWIG loved the whole experience - clouds never looked so fluffy! But SWIG generally takes 0.5mg to calm himself down or get himself off to sleep.
To SWIM:
.25mg = A pointless, barely noticable relaxation.
.5mg = Mellow Relaxation
1mg = SWIM is really calm, no worries
2mg = Euphoric, relaxed, and super calm
4mg = SUPER euphoric, all muscles loose and relaxed, spotty memory
+5mg = Pointless Blackout.
Also, SWIM is around 170lb, Male.
SWIM would like to update size and weight dimension.
6'3'' 240lbs Agree with Soma chart above very accurate In my opinion.
haha Homer just took 2 mg. 10 minutes ago.. 143 pounds. Feels great!Bruceman how did the 2mg dosage feel?
And please do tell were these Gador,Bago,Upjohn or Denver?
I respect your tolerance but 2mg would have me to lie down.
Long Live the Queen who speaks wisely about benzo's.
paranoid_android
06-12-2007, 21:18
My robopal Marvin is an opiate guy, and whenever he tries out alprazolam it seems to fail. I think he tried too high of a dose his first few times. Sometimes he can't quite feel effects at 1 mg and lower, but 1.5 mg will have him staring longingly at the bed in 20 minutes, and in sleep mode after 45. He's quite a hefty 300lb android, so you can imagine his surprise at the effects of taking a dose that many here consider to be mild or normal. Marvin actually thought that the main effect of xanax was an overpowering sedation. It seemed that it simply wasn't his kind of substance. I'll tell the bot to try 1.25 mg next time.
Is it also possible that Marvin's past opiate history is coloring his perception of alprazolam? I mean, is xanax simply more subtle than opiates? For reference, Marvin's hydrocodone dosage is 60-80 mg crushed on an empty stomach with grapefruit juice and tums. Xanax seems to pale in comparison, but maybe he's just been doing it wrong.
Xanax seems to pale in comparison, but maybe he's just been doing it wrong.
Try a full 2mg Gador bar.
That should give him an idea on the most effective dosage.
Xanax and opiates work through different neuroreceptors. The opiate family has its own neuroreceptors which when stimulated result in the release of such friendly chemicals as nor-epinephrine and dopamine. Xanax however works through the GABA receptors to inhibit neural firing, effectively numbing or "slowing" the brain, not providing a chemically induced euphoria. Xanax is a state of mind (or lack thereof) to work with that will not have an inherent direction. Opiates however, have an inherent enough quality to lead people into becoming "opiate guys".
BagelBiteZ
25-01-2008, 02:52
I recieved 40 little peach 0.5 milligram xanax's last night and call me stupid but I had a question of how many of these little devils is equal to a bar. I dont want to overdose. I am just trying to concentrate a little harder so Im assuming 4 = one bar. but if i took 8 would i be ok?
JaWill88
25-01-2008, 03:11
a bar can be .25mg, .5mg, 1.0mg, or 2.0mg so it depends. "bar" is wayyyy to general. swim gets 2.0mg bars so yes 4 would be one bar. one bar is enough for swim. as for if it's okay. does swim have experience with xaxax (alprazolam)? or benzos at all? if not tolerant try 1 peach .5mg tab and go up from there, gradually/safely that is. if tolerant and regularly takes two bars then yeah 8 would be okay. but if not really tolerant swiy is going to pass out on one bar, or equivelant of, 4 - .5mg tabs.
BagelBiteZ
25-01-2008, 03:17
swim previously took blue xanax pills and had thoughts of suicide. swim thought that maybe the peach would be lower. swiyou generally takes one or two? swim weighs 92 pounds and has a experience with valium as they are perscribed to swim. Swim originally got the 0.5 from someone that swim knows. Swim forgot to ask the equivalency. Swim wants to be safe :confused:
Matt The Funk
25-01-2008, 04:07
swim previously took blue xanax pills and had thoughts of suicide. swim thought that maybe the peach would be lower. swiyou generally takes one or two? swim weighs 92 pounds and has a experience with valium as they are perscribed to swim. Swim originally got the 0.5 from someone that swim knows. Swim forgot to ask the equivalency. Swim wants to be safe :confused:10mg valium(diazepam) is equal to .5mg alprazolam(xanax) according to the ashton manual...I think ahah. But uhh yeah SWIY should work his way up with .5.....The little orange ones are .5mg
Blue ones are 1mg, and the BARS are 2mg...SWIM doesn't understand what people are talking about when they say 1mg BARS....the bars are the long ones with 4 indents....each indicating .5mg.....while what people sometimes call FOOTBALLS are the 1mg blue pills....and I would assume sometimes the .5mg pills.
seekupdreamgirl
29-01-2008, 04:24
This turtle knows xanax well. 0.5 mg 'peaches' are great. Turtle weighs 250 lbs! And when the turtle has one peach, the turtle chills. The turtle doesn't want to battle that bitch turtle named tolerance. But once in awhile the turtle gets caught eating two peaches, the turtle really chills. Turtle knows of the bars. Turtle says, too much, too much, IMHO, been there, battled that tolerance b4. Would rather enjoy the threshold regularily instead of chasin' the ace.
peace:crazy
Swim has had a few binges of alprazolam, starting the first day with 2mg, then eventually ending up at 4mg over the course of a few days. the downfall is not remembering anything at all.
The interesting part is listening to people tell you what you did once you are clean off of alprazolam.