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Meth Rage
14-03-2003, 08:13
Does anyone know the most effective way of using Clonazepam. Is it best to snort it, disolve under tongue, swallow it, or smoking it?
Which will give you the best effect?
Clonazepam, also known as rivotril, is a benzo with an anticonvulsive effect. It has a lot of side effects.
True, but $me is lazzy :P do you know if erowid also covers this "new" (if new) drugs ? or should i use that rx thing for the new legal drugs ?
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let it disolve under your tongue. Takes affect in around 15 minutes.
Has a slight sugary taste.
I just eat them. They are benzodiazepines used to treat anxiety and also to prevent certain types of seizures. I like them.
hollywood
12-10-2003, 02:51
To me xanax is the best, you have to take about 3 or 4 mgs but its well worth it, especially if you mix it with a few pain pills..........................
ive downed rivotril with alcohol.... crazy shit after u smoke a couple of blunts
hey im new here. is clonazepam a lil' blue pill??? should i chew it or what?? Thnx</font><img border="0" src= "smileys/smiley4.gif">
sands of time
10-12-2003, 11:07
I used to try mess with those things once in a while. Never got the full effect though. Don't waste your time snorting the shit. The guy who sold em to me told me to do that, all it did was make me kinda sleepy and the next day I was just out of it. Letting them disolve under the tongue is the way to go our just taking them as you would a normal pill.
Bojangles
31-01-2004, 21:07
Chlonzapam is Klonipin...I love K-pins...I take mine orally but my friends snort it...
ok i have some kpins that me and my friend are gonna take. i took, well lets just say, more than a handful before and it hit me like a rock. let me tell you that was the shit. but we only have 8 total .5 mil pills and i was wondering how we can get the best effect
Like sands said, put them under your tongue.
BA
OneDiaDem
26-02-2004, 19:38
That sounds like a death cocktail waiting to happen...... Not a good time.
You're right, Dia, I moved it to the garbage bin. That was a little too much.
BA
Kooers ... my Clonazepam is not a little blue pill... it is a flat round orangy pill with n/n on one side and ".5" on the other. It is almost identical (in looks, only)to Gravol (Canada) or the stuff in the USAas ananti-nauseant.
My doctor just prescribed two X .5 mg tabs to me (1 every 12 hours) instead of the 3-4 mgs of Lorazepam ("simple" Ativan) that I have been taking continuously for almost 15 years. Pharmacist says these are "a bit stronger" and last longer (12hr time-release), but I felt pretty wierd the first couple of days. Well, I still feel wierd, actually ;)Anyone able to compare the two doses? (Lorazepam 4mg vs. Clonazepam 0.5 twice a day)? Much thanks :)
i get clonazepam from my doc, and i'm on the 1 mg dose. i have gotten aqua ones, green ones and blue ones...just depends on the manufacturer. snorting them doesn't do anything except let them run down the back of your throat; the aren't water soulable. if i want a quicker kick i chew them up. they don't taste too bad. if i want to get messed up on 'em i usually use 4 or 5 mg, but BE CAREFUL! i know my tolerance to them, and if someone wants to use them while they are drinking, be advised that they act as a respiratory depressant, and too much of either and you pass out and DON'T WAKE UP! other than that, have fun <img border="0" src= "smileys/smiley16.gif">
A FOAF has taken over 30mg's in a day and felt no effects except for a little yawning and this FOAF has no tolerance to clonazepam. BTW, they were the white 2mg pills by ROCHE with an expiration date of 2009! This FOAF cant even tell the difference between 10mg's and nothing! And yes they are real, in the blister packs andthey werenamed Rivotril. My FOAF wouldn't recommend taking nearly that much though because people have died from WAY less. Maybe alprazolam will be better, who knows...
It seems for most people that anywhere from 2-8mg's is about rightl, and be careful, they take a while to kick in so dont redose for about an hour and a half or even 2.
Psilocybe S.
07-07-2004, 01:46
I had a bottle of little pink klonopin. 1 mg. And my experiences show me that klonopin a) may not work on some people for some reason b) the use of cocaine and or/ meth can make klonopin uneffective at all c) like drugs such as Prozac, for some peopleit may takea little while(a few doeses)to feel any effects.
richrock
07-07-2004, 02:25
I'm prescribed Klonos(1mg) and I've found that to get a little "loopy" feeling from them, the best thing to do is to take 2-3 of them and let them disolve under my tongue. I guess they make quick disolve tabs also, but mine are the regular kind.
Klonopin is not much of a high... best when used as comedown assistance by tweakers. Try Xanax... like an alcohol drunk, but without the dizziness or nausea. Addictive like a demon tho.
<blockquote> Originally posted by Meth Rage on 14 March 2003<hr>
Does anyone know the most effective way of using Clonazepam.* Is it best to snort it, disolve under tongue, swallow it, or smoking it?<hr></blockquote>
Just chew it up and swallow it. Tastes like mildly sweet chalk. No water necessary.
Psilocybe S.
20-07-2004, 09:14
Most of these pills which we speak of, that are perscribed at lowdoses, such as Klonopin and Ativan, are perscribed at weaker doses so doctors do not have to perscribe Valium or Xanax, which have higher abuse rates. So dont be afraid to take like 6 klono's, but I took them for a while, and I may be speaking with a tolerence, so always do your research, and find the LD50 of every pill before you take it, seeing as I dont have any clue as to the overdosage of Klonopin.
Geetered
28-07-2004, 09:17
dissolve under the tounge IMO
junkyman
31-07-2004, 04:40
I have/had much success with clonazepam just by taking them orally. it is actually my favorite benzo, i think.
junkyman
02-08-2004, 17:28
huh what the fuck?? klonopin (clonazepam) rules...valium,etc is bullshit and makes me way too drowsy..
zoocircle
10-08-2004, 13:39
klonopins are a fairly weak benzo in my opinion. I had the roche2mg's and would eat about 10-15 when i dosed them, but needless to say i couldn't tell if it was that i was so drunk i was stumbling around , or the pills were kicking my ass. But 20-30mg of a benzo in 2mg strongest pills should knock me out if i want to purchase again
braveheart508
20-08-2004, 05:31
I've got klonopin 2 mg's and they're way better than valium anyday. Actually I just snorted 2 mg's and it feels like 10 valiums when it hits.
Word to Clonazepam! Don't waste your money on name brand stuff ("K Cuts" as they are often called)--they are the SAME SAME thing in a different package for way more moola. I am tired of people arguing about whether Valium, Klonopin, or Xanax is best. Valium only ha a higher abuse rate b/c t has been around longer and has been overprescribed, especially to women, in the past.; If you wanna knock Valium, Klon, Or Xanax, at least suggest a rare benzo, like Versed or something, that is strong as hell. Oh- ever heard of Mogadon (Roche; not a US or Canadian drug)
RipperChick
29-11-2004, 11:35
Just scored a couple 1 mg pills. Never tried but am experienced with Xanax..Vicodin and other such pills.
What's the 411 with this pill..?
ie: best way to take..effect..what not to mix with..etc..etc.
any info is appreciated...http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/smileys/smiley14.gif
411 is the MFG's code, mine have 63 on them.
I put them under my tounge, chew or swallow them.
RipperChick
29-11-2004, 12:06
411 is the MFG's code, mine have 63 on them.
I put them under my tounge, chew or swallow them.
no no....411 is slang for info...like what's the 411 on this pill...meaning information...silly!
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LOL !! yep silly me. http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/smileys/smiley29.gif
When it comes to pills I look at numbers too
some equivalence tables say 1mg of klonopin is equal 1mg of xanax, others say it's equal to 0.5 mg of xanax.
from personal experience i'd go with the first one
i find klonopin much more enjoyable than xanax...but that's just my opion.
with little tolerance i'd say try 3mg with a beer...nice feeling
as for the vicodin, it's a different class of medicine since vicodin is hydrocodone, an opioid
a 10-15mg dose (no tolerance) will provide you with a nice euphoric, calm feeling whereas benzos such as klonopin and xanax will just relax you but no euphoria
magicmaster141
01-12-2004, 07:41
I would say let them disolve under your toung. They will work a bit faster that way and don't seem to last much shorter then just poppin them. Put one under and when its done I'd prolly wait 15-30 mins see how you feel and do another if you want, and so on. Most I've ever taken was 6 and a half 1 mg's. Needless to say I was pretty sleepy and there was no way I could stay up 2 hours after them. Most of the time I take 2-3 I love them gives a very relaxed feeling. Good luck~
Hahaha. That 411 shit was too funny. I think Klonopins last longer than bars. I wouldn't recommend drinking too much on them either. You can get way too fucked up mixing benzos & booze. It's nice, but kinda risky. Everything in moderation.
soulraver132
02-12-2004, 21:30
one time i mixed 10mgs of klonopin with 4-5 alza36 (36mgs of riltilin)) i was so fucked up all weekend .i could sleep but it was just really wierd i couldnt remember anything thata people said 2 me iprolly smoked like a qp that weekend too .i think klons are stronger than xanax though.i dont like to mix booze and downers or with any pills really cept uppers.my dads friend died from whiskey and valium
t3h_1337
31-12-2004, 05:31
My doctor gave this to me for my "insomnia". My goal was to score some Ambien but he gave me this stuff instead. Anyway I have 30mg of this (in 1mg pills).
Does it have any recreational use? What doses should be taken and what other drugs should it be mixed with?
magicmaster141
31-12-2004, 07:00
Yea it can it's my fav benzoo that i've tryed, I forgot how many mg the ones I take are but you can pop a few with a beer or 2 or hold them under your tounge till they disolve for a faster effect.
t3h_1337
31-12-2004, 07:27
What does it feel like when you take it with a beer or two?
magicmaster141
31-12-2004, 14:11
it just makes the effet stronger, makes me very relaxed and not worried about anything and if I take enuff sleepy along with the other things.
tumadachi
04-01-2005, 02:21
they are very relaxing but when ou have snorte about 6 then alot of mates tend to get agrressive on them i like to lay back and dream ......
These Forensics
05-01-2005, 03:37
snorting klonopins? ive never heard of that. dont they have binders
that would prevent you from doing so? i remember trying to break up a
1mg and it wasnt happening...
klonopins do have some recreational use, i took 2 1 mg and smoked, and it makes you feel very calm and relaxed
hacnslash
05-01-2005, 03:44
benzos aren't water soluble btw, so snorting them would get you high by the drip....im sure nobody wants to taste runny pill filler coming down their throat, so do yourself a favot and chew it and chase with some water or somethin.
tumadachi
05-01-2005, 03:58
DONT KNOCK IT TILL U TRY IT .IT AINT AFR BAD ,PEOPLE SEEM TO THINK THEY KNOW THE EFFECTS OF BENZO`S .......NOT ......I ENJOY THEM MORE SNORTING THEM AND SWALLOWING 1 OR 2 ,DRINKING IS A BIG NO NO OR YOU `LL FORGET HOW YOU GOT LOCKED UP ....
These Forensics
05-01-2005, 04:10
this guy is really getting on my nerves, hahah. tumadachi, please type
coherently in your next post. like i said, and hacnslash said, snorting
klonopin, and benzos in general is a dumb idea. Swallowing them is a
much better method, since they are not water soluble.
hacnslash
05-01-2005, 19:44
yea, i'm sure everybody will appreciate you letting go of your caps lock...
and again, since benzos are not water soluble, you'll have a bunch of pill gunk up your nose doing nothing. If anything it'll take longer for it to end up in your stomach than if you just chewed the stuff.
DXM expert
01-02-2005, 05:50
Klonopin is 1/4 as strong as an equivelent dose of Xanax. Although it's half-life is 3x longer this seems to cover the difference in the effect one feels. This means that if the half life were the same in both drugs the effect would be almost identical
t3h_1337
01-02-2005, 05:56
Klonopin is 1/4 as strong as an equivelent dose of Xanax. Although it's half-life is 3x longer this seems to cover the difference in the effect one feels. This means that if the half life were the same in both drugs the effect would be almost identical
Do you know this from experience or did you just look at the benzo equivalency chart and their half lives?
Does that mean in order to feel like I am on 2mg of Xanax I should take 8mg of Klonopin?
The poster above who took 10mg of Klonopin said it messed him up all weekend. This seems like it would be accurate.
DXM expert
09-02-2005, 01:57
No since the half times are so radically different Klonopin will stay in your system thus keeping you high longer. Xanax with a much shorter half life will keep you high much shorter making multiple doses a day a must. Milligram for milligram Xanax is much stronger than Klonopin. But the onset of Klonopin is 3x slower to that of Xanax i.e. 45 min compared to 15 min. This also explains why Klonopin is generally less abused and addictive. In addition it explains why the effects of the two drugs seem similar in strength. For exapmle if I take 8 mgs of Xanax I generally would blackout(though you can be assued you would be thoroughly fucked up)but 8 mgs of Klonopin generally is not enough for a moderate userto black out. Now by the morning I may have a hangover from the Xanax, but nothing to keep me from going on about my day. On the other hand 8 mgs of Klonopin will still be with me the next day.
one time i mixed 10mgs of klonopin with 4-5 alza36
(36mgs of riltilin)) i was so fucked up all weekend .i could sleep but
it was just really wierd i couldnt remember anything thata people said
2 me iprolly smoked like a qp that weekend too .i think klons are
stronger than xanax
I dunno know I never had xanax but I too took a large quanity of klon
and smoked some fine herb and it took me like 3 days to be "right" I
remember things from the 3 days but not much I was a zombie.
Great stuff if you have a week to kill
this guy is really getting on my nerves, hahah. tumadachi, please type
coherently in your next post. like i said, and hacnslash said, snorting
klonopin, and benzos in general is a dumb idea. Swallowing them is a
much better method, since they are not water soluble.
I snorted them LOTS they get you fucked up, the thing is you tend to
get high and forget how many you take and get in trouble. I just
eat them now. BTW I have smoked them too, either lace a joint
with oiwer and then heat it to mele intio the weed and smoke it nice
and very mellow. Or through some on top of a bowl and heat it
slowly till it melt into you weed (in bowl) and smoke away.
it works, don't jump on ppl for thinks you "haven't tried" or "know your right" when you don't have the experience.
knowname
29-03-2005, 13:56
Never heard of anyone snorting them, I ate 3 on Sunday, to minimal effects though.
allyourbase
30-03-2005, 22:28
klonopins make me ANGRY! I dont know why, they just do, when Im on klonopin I just want to kick a midget.
I just got 20 0.5mg of clonazepam.
I've built up quit a tolerance to other Benzo's: oxazepam, dieazepam and Lorazepam.
So what's the right dosage for me to take ?
2 mg ?
Edited by: mark_v
Did 1 mg yesterday on an empty stomach, didn't feel a thing.
Trying 2.5 mg this evening.....
SWIMs doc gave him clonazepam ... but SWIM doesn't even feel anything
off 3mg (except the first time, when SWIM stood up he felt kinda
uncordinated and for some reason kept bumping into walls, though with
no acutual feelings of innebriation). Other then that, they just
help SWIM sleep :(
If you have better experiences though please post, SWIM might be interested to see what hes doing wrong.
The 2.5 mg SWIM toko yesterday didn't do a thing.
Except afteg taking 7 mg of Loraepam i began to feel relaxed and ready for sleep.
But zero recreational value.
In fact i can't uderstand people use benzo's for fun.
Like someone on the board said he/she felt after taking Xanax ;
drifting around all wrapped up in pink cotton', what the hell, are
those people on LSD or what ?!http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif
The only thing that gives a warm, relaxed and eufhoric feeling is Codiene and Tramadol.
Allrighty, did 3.5 mg yesterday and shit happend, all i felt was a bit sleepy.
Maybe this is an excellent drug van anxiety attacks, but is crap for recreational use.http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif
Long Live Lorazepam !
All benzo's are crap for recreational use IMO, unless you can get a hold of Rohypnol or Triazolam (Halcion), those are the strongest benzo's out there and they might have some recreational value taken alone. Otherwise, the only way you are going to get any recreational value from benzo's is mixing with Alcohol. Every Benzo I've taken including Xanax in high doses has just made me feel dull and tired. So yeah I'd like to know what people are smoking, and or psychedelics they are taking when they act as if Benzo's are the shit for rec. use. Bullshit, try some GHB folks than you'll know what a real "high" feeling is.
PenguinPhreak
19-09-2005, 23:31
No drug affects everyone the same way. I know lots of people that
absolutely love benzos and use them with considerable frequency. Just
because you don't get enjoyable effects from a drug doesn't mean that
the drug has no recreational potential for other people.
Yeah but, benzo's are way overrated. They are ment for sleep/anti-anxiety and panic disorder. Not to get high off of.
PenguinPhreak
20-09-2005, 00:54
The fact that they are used as sleep aids and for reducing anxiety is a
mute point. Opiates are used for pain management, DXM is used to stop
coughs, Adderall and Ritalin are used to help with attention. Their
medicinal use has nothing to do with their recreational value. Most
people get effects similiar to alcohol, and I doubt many would say
alcohol can't be used to get high.
basehead800
18-10-2005, 15:51
penguianphreak i agree with you i love xanax and to tell you the truth i dont even remember meeting one person that didnt like them except for this one crackhead guy used to sell em for shit
and to all you that are saying benzos are overrated ur prolly just looking in the wrong place for the wrong high if u wanna trip eat sum shrroms or sum cid idk what u guys are talking about people trippin on benzos maybe i read it wrong please clarify
Bojangles
23-10-2005, 00:01
I am prescribed to the 1mg ones and if it is really just to relief anxiety, say from my boss I'll take .5...if I am really delirent I will take 1-2, which is what I would take to get a buzz off of. They are the only Benzo's that I've had that I'm not sensitive to..Alprazolam/xanax will put me to sleep very easily at a very small dose...Diazepam makes me sleep to...I'll stick with my K-pins.
jesusfreak666er
25-10-2005, 22:58
benzos are not over rated... klonopin is a long half life benzo and therefore u dont get a smack high like xanax.. but if u take enuff u feel damn good for a good 6 hours... i dont wanna tell u how many to take because that depends on u, i was prescribed 3mg a day and at one point i would take 15-20 mg to get high and id just sit back and watch the day went by and it was a pretty fun time so i would disagree klonies are fun
Something weird happened...
SWIM some friends did a stupid thing a couple days ago whenSWIMwas totally drunk and coked up.
SWIM decided to give some sleepin' pills to a girl at the party SWIM was, which was in SWIMS own house btw.
The dose was given to 2 girls.
It was: 2mg of Rivotril (Clonazepam) smashed and placed inside a sandwich.
Both girls received this.
Then, we gave a glass of water with another 2mg pill powdered in it to one of the girls.
Then when the girls were almost sleeping (they were totally drunk too) we placed a 2mg pill under each girls tongue.
Weird thing.
One of them (the one who took the water) was totally asleep, and started to shake and shiver and her eyes were white, couldn't move and was TOTALLY passed out.
The other woke up after a little while she felt asleep. WIDE ALERT and called a cab and left home with her sleeping friend.
SWIM was totally freaked out by the shivering girl, plus, coke was doing it's paranoia job almost perfect btw. At some point SWIM get's a call from the girl's parents saying they were going to sue SWIM and sendSWIM to jail because SWIM doped the girl and stuff. Turns pout nothing happened and now everything is calm, SWIM said the girls were at 4 different parties vefore mine so they could've gotten doped somewhere else.
SWIM never touched the girls or whatsoever. But let me say... clonazepam IS powerful.
BANNED!Edited by: Alfa
Micklemouse
26-10-2005, 10:13
You idiot! You utter jerk! What the F*ck were you thinking? Spiking people = chemical, spiritual and psychological RAPE! You have no place in this community and deserve everything you get. The fact that you didn't touch the girls is neither here nor there, did you think about the possibility that someone else might? Did you think about the possibility of drug allergies? Did you think about possible cns depression from mixing a very strong benzo with alcohol? You could have killed them you dick!
This is one of the most irresponsible things anyone can do, and posts like this only serve to bring the community into disrepute and strengthen the case against it. I sincerely hope you get spiked one day yourself so you can get some idea of just how f*cking stupid you are. Imbecile.
SkUnKaDeLiC
26-10-2005, 12:59
Clonazepam is great, you just gotta take the right amounts!!! 2-4mg's
of clonazepam is amazing for me - feels just like 2-4 blue valiums!
Whoever thinks theyre a waste of time for recreational use doesnt know
what theyre talking about (no offence meant) but they feel to me nearly
the same as : diazepam[valium]/temazepam/nitrazepam[mogadon] .
Clonazepam also is a long-lasting benzodiazepine and keeps me asleep
for hours. They are also great at relieving stress/anxiety .. I have
drunk on them twice and it has enhanced the effects, but I wouldnt
drink more than 1-2 weak beers or a glass or two of wine.
Ive been doing klonnies for some time now and let me tell you the best way todo it is to snort it.... maybe about 2-3 lines for the first time user(keep in mind im using 1mgs) but ill do 6 lines and ill feel pretty ripe by time the 5th or 6th line is kicking in
Bojangles
28-10-2005, 14:04
They come in pill form for a reason...screw snorting...Snorting anything always gives me a headache...if you want to break it up just chew it instead.
Micklemouse
30-10-2005, 01:24
Read his post! He gave, without their knowledge, 2 already drunk girls the equivalent of 40 mg Valium, then topped one of the girls up with another 20, and the other with another 40, then thinks it's weird that one of them comes close to respiratory crash and he nearly gets sued because of it! Not only that but he posts on th internet that it happened, and that it happened in his own house!
The kid's a liability and one thing we don't need is liabilities posting dangerous tales like that. In his real life he's got away without any come-back. In his cyber-life he's been ostracized. Seem fair enough? In the grand scheme of things it probably doesn't mean that much, but the continued safety of this site and the wider community depends on action being taken against stuff like this.
Reading my own reply to this I apologise for the outrageous flaming, but this is something I feel very strongly about, and stand by everything I said, and hope he got to read it before he was banned.
Hope that answers your question Robmor, and welcome aboard!
Now, back to our scheduled programme...
What if he was actually referring at someone else and not him? I'm sure no one is that stupid.
FrenTiBulon
31-10-2005, 00:36
SWIMhard some interesting experiences with clonazepam
here's a little story...
about a year and a half ago SWIM did something that
he
will regret for the rest of his life and is still paying for right now.
His neighbors were gone, and he had been doing a lot of K-pins because
his
best friends brother had a large amount for sale. His neighbors and
friends of the family had left for vacation and he got 10 - 2mg tablets
for himself, and he went over to their house and fed their cat and
changed the litterbox and whatnot. SWIM was feeling quite superb after
doing around 6mg in lines and orally taking 4mg, swallowed with shots
of rum.
SWIM felt great, and SWIM explored their house because SWIM
had nothing better to do. SWIM got to the medicine cabinet and found a
bottle that had hydromorphone in it, Dilaudid. On the label was
something peculiar, the pharmacy they got it from was abouot 5 miles
from SWIM's house in the suburbs.
So SWIM set out on a missions
that would change SWIM's life forever. SWIM asked himself, "where does one get
drugs?"
the answer was there, five miles or less from SWIM's house.
SWIM took some more k-pins and depleted my stash, and
ideas were formulating in SWIM's mind. SWIM already had a very good
pharmaceutical knowledge, and SWIM went on an impulse.
SWIM walked along a Bridal trail that runs right along
the main road to get there, it's actually a state route road. It took
SWIM a while to get there, but SWIM was ready. SWIM pulled out the
screwdriver
and removed the screen window at about 1:30 AM. SWIM pulled the upper
part
of the window and undid the lock with my screwdriver.
It was easy. The adrenaline started pumping through
SWIM's veins, and SWIM knew what to do. SWIM went behind the counter,
and a
motion alarm went off. Loud blaring sirens, but i had a purpose, SWIM
had
gone so far, SWIM might as well have gone throuogh with it. And SWIM
did. SWIM
emptied the shelf of benzodiazepines into my backpack. SWIM had a total
of
over 8 grams of alprazolam and name brand xanax alone.
SWIM grabbed a soda from one of the fridges and bolted.
This pharmacy is right next to a junkyard and SWIM got in. SWIM opened the
door of the first car SWIM could and got in. SWIm opened my backpack, pulled
out a bottle of k-pins and started eating them. SWIM tried to relax but
the adrenalin was incredible.
SWIM got out of the car and onto the path where
nobody could find me. SWIM walked home, and passed out content.
The net day SWIM went to the store and bought a tackle
box. SWIM brought it home and sorted it by variety and even size. It was
filled and SWIM had over a dozen bottles of full benzos left.I kept taking
more and more. My tolerance went up in no time at all. SWIM put his body
through hell for weeks. SWIM was selling the pills SWIM had, and even trading
them for others. SWIM took over 25 mg of kpins at once and didnt feel a
thing. SWIM was a high roller. So here comes the really really dumb part.
SWIM did it again, this time on over 30 mg of xanax,
15mg of dilaudid which SWIM snorted and a large bowl. SWIM got there, SWIM went
through the same motions, but 3 minutes after SWIM walked in 3 police
officers walked in with guns drawn. SWIM was caught, and there was nothing
SWIM could do about it except enjoy the feeling SWIM had. SWIM was arrested and
charged with several counts of larceny, burglary, criminal mischief,
and even posession of burglary tools.
SWIM was 17 at that time, and was tried as a youthful
offender, put on probation for 3 years with a 3 year suspended
sentence. So if SWIM get's arrested, SWIM is in jail for 3 years for screwing up
before plus whatever SWIM's sentence is for the crime SWIM is convicted of next.
It was a bad mistake, and in no way does SWIM suggest
ever doing this.
SWIM was ingesting around 50 mg of kpins or xanax
everyday, and benzodiazepines have an awful withdrawl. SWIM was starting
to cool down with it because SWIM knew what could happen, but SWIM was cut
early. SWIM's dad found the box, he cut the lock off with bolt cutters, and
flushed every pill that SWIM had. That box was worth over $10,000 on the
street.
SWIM was cut cold turkey. SWIM shook violently, had
siezures, and numerous terrifying side effects. SWIM was completely
different. SWIM was cold, shaking and scared. Things SWIM could see other
people claimed they could not, SWIM couldn't explain it, the noises in SWIM's
ears, the blurred double vision that came and went, the things SWMI saw,
the ideas SWIM thought.
SWIM went and saw psychiatrists because his parents
thought SWIM was insane and suicidal, and through treatment that never
worked SWIM had a CT scan taken of his brain. The funny thing is SWIM
had a CT
scan done when SWIM was in 6th grade, completely sober, but not yet
fully
developed. The comparison of the two X-rays of his brain were
revealing. His 6th grade brain was very full and veiny and healthy
looking, because
SWIM was.
The second X-ray had holes, not large ones, but
HOLES in it. SWIM has permanently, irreversably damaged his brain from
doing amongst other things, an absurd amount of benzodiazepines. Im not
sure if it was from the anax or the withdrawl, but it definately made SWIM a different person today.
Edited by: FrenTiBulon
FrenTiBulon, please read the FAQ: Especially the bit about SWIM. You have just incriminated yourself on an open internet forum.
Do NOT confess to illegal activity online. There is an edit button (and Someone who isn't Jatelka has had to use it often enough!)http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif
Peace X
youngandwasted
25-01-2006, 18:13
ive downed rivotril with alcohol.... crazy shit after u smoke a couple of blunts
holy fuck, i did this lastnight, first time i have been drinking in 2 months, cause my flavor is cocaine, so anyways, took 1 mg of it, drank only 4 beer, smoked about 3 dubbies afterwars and throughout. i got so fucking messed up, and then eventually sick as fuck.
calmascanbe
26-01-2006, 15:37
I've been on klonopin for the last 5 months and it has helped greatly. You won't get the bang of xanax or valium , but it helps a lot with panic and anxiety. Plus if you take it without abusing it your tolreance will stay at an even keal. This might not work for everyone but it worked for me after years of taking valium and xanax.
beautyfrompain
16-11-2006, 22:23
has anyone ever gotten high off of this? i tried snorting like 2 times, but it didnt do much, i dunno if thats just cuz i only snorted like .25
Forthesevenlakes
16-11-2006, 22:26
firstly, use the search engine, secondly, come back in a year!
*cue the sound of the door closing*
Riconoen {UGC}
16-11-2006, 23:19
swim is the kpin master and will tell you that snorting kpin will not work, take it under swiys tongue, and swiy needs about 1-1.5 mgs to get a high from it usually.
Are we actually doing this thread? :p Anyway... SWIM recommends crushing the tablet thoroughly, dissolving it in acetone, stir/shake well and let the acetone evaporate completely until you have a dry powder again. This appears to separate the clonazepam from the pill binders. You can then snort the results (should work somewhat better), or mix with water and plug it up your patootie. Or just skip this whole thing and take the tablet orally like most people do.
PartyBoy
27-11-2006, 19:01
Swim says that clonazepam is the most effective benzo along with xanax and rohypnol :)
Partyboy: Effective in what way? How does it make SWIY feel? Sedated? Euphoric?
Some more information would be very helpful
PartyBoy
27-11-2006, 22:23
Partyboy: Effective in what way? How does it make SWIY feel? Sedated? Euphoric?
Some more information would be very helpfulSorry if swim was a little indistinct.
When swim uses clonazepam swim feels sluggish maybe a little euphoric to.
Swim really have problems with english ill hope swiy understand anyways.
Riconoen {UGC}
11-12-2006, 01:10
This belongs in the benzos forum.
has anyone ever gotten high off of this? i tried snorting like 2 times, but it didnt do much, i dunno if thats just cuz i only snorted like .25
Back when SWIM had extreme anxiety (including generalized anxiety disorder AND panic attack disorder) taking a small dose of clonazepam would get him high as a kite. Now that he has few/no issues with anxiety anymore, he really doesn't "feel" clonazepam at all.
Some benzos do perhaps have more of a feeling than others tho... Xanax and Ativan being examples that will still give SWIM a "buzzed" sensation. Klonopin though? Nothing.
Wyborowa
19-12-2006, 14:58
Back when SWIM had extreme anxiety (including generalized anxiety disorder AND panic attack disorder) taking a small dose of clonazepam would get him high as a kite. Now that he has few/no issues with anxiety anymore, he really doesn't "feel" clonazepam at all.
Some benzos do perhaps have more of a feeling than others tho... Xanax and Ativan being examples that will still give SWIM a "buzzed" sensation. Klonopin though? Nothing.
Yes! Why is that? Now Swim wishes he never told swims doc about .5mg of xanaax 3x's a day wasn't working. Now swim is on 1mg 3x's Klonopin. Damn longer half life. once swim took 10mg's orrally felt VERY LITTLE. ALso, swim plugged 7mg's worth at once, agin very lil feelin....Swim even went out of his way to get brand name Klonopin! They look so fuckin cool wit the lil "K" Stamped out...pretty sky blue...(<
SWIdr is prescribed generic Klonopin (Clonazepam) and it works wonders! SWIdr has GAD (General Anxiety Disorder) and the clonazepam (1mg) helps him stay cool and calm all through out the day (thanks to its loooong half life). To get high off of it is quite easy compared to some benzos like lorazepam. SWIdr has a tolerance to benzos, so he usually takes 3 mg or so to get a euphoric high off of these godsends. Of course SWIdr would rather abuse Xanax (Alprazolam) or Valium (Diazepam), clonazepam is right up there with them. SWIdr cannot compare clonazepam to some benzos due to lack of experience, but he still assumes it is one of the better anxiotics out there.
~lostgurl~
28-12-2006, 13:48
SWIM was prescribed Clonazepam for a few years (2mgs per day) and she found it gave her some relief of anxiety symptoms, but only short term, like a few months, then SWIM's anxiety returned, but a lot worse. SWIM tried using higher doses but this just made SWIM sleepy.
SWIM finally stopped taking Clonazepam about 6 months ago after slowly reducing her dose to .125mg (a quarter of a .5mg pill) and SWIM had to stay at that low dose for quite a few months too. Withdrawal from Clonazepam was a long process and she hopes anybody deciding to take this medication on a daily basis know what they are in for.
Psych0naut
06-01-2007, 15:09
Does any SWIY have experience with clonazepam injections? SWIM is lucky to have found 2 ampules of 1mg/ml Rivotril, brand name Roche.
swim has been on benzos for a while, just moved up from ativan to klonopin....4 mgs dayly and it dont do shit. gotta be the tolerance
Riconoen {UGC}
20-01-2007, 10:31
damn 4mg's? you have one hell of a tolerance to benzos. you have a long road ahead of you if you ever want to get off benzos.
upperdecker
20-01-2007, 12:51
SWIM was recently prescribed 0.5 mg of Clonazepam for anxiety. SWIM notices maybe a little different in feeling but hardly anything. SWIM thinks the dose needs to be highered. Does anyone agree?
Riconoen {UGC}
22-01-2007, 22:54
Swim agrees. try taking 1mg or 1,5mg's and see if it helps.
Parasthesia
25-01-2007, 17:33
This is much like xanax. SWIM has had numerous experiences with klonopin, the most powerful (and most vague) being the night he crushed and snorted 3 1mg pills, and then ingested 4 1mg pills, and subsequently snorted 2 more 1mg pills, all in under 2 hours, while drinking 2 beers in this time. Two days later SWIM finds himself having a conversation with his girlfriend about a brand new jacket he was given as a present, having no memory of what happened shortly after snorting the last klonopin and right before he was talking to his girlfriend.
I would say don't take klonopin if you have to cram for a test that night, or want to learn any long or short term information you would like to retain, as klonopin doesn't allow you to retain any information at all.
^^^^^^^
Well of course SWIY didnt remember anything after that. First of all the was an EXETREMLY high dose, and also SWIY combined it with another CNS depressant, alcohol. Klonopin (Clonazepam) can create amnesia (as with any benzo) in certain situations/combos/people. It can help alot if one is worried about something the next day, because it has a veeeery long half life (Some studies suggest up to 500 hours). It should keep one calm, when taken in the right dose, for a much longer period of time unlike xanax, which can have somewhat of a rebound anxiety effect.
Klonopin is SWIM second favorite benzo,right behind xanax.It's that rediculusly long half life that SWIM dont like.SWIM cant handle the build-up from the dose SWIM needs and has put them on hold.SWIM is happy with fast acting short half-life xanax.SWIM can handle a lil anxiety everyday then just get rid of it when it gets to high.SWIM preferes to control the med,not me controlled by it.But other people love their k-pin,its like a who makes a better truck debate, ford or chevy.
Swim thinks it is silly to snort a benzo. But back to the original question, 2 mgs should do it. Klonopin is not a rec drug. It is more for people with anxiety issues as it doesn't have hardly any side effects. Swim likes it for that reason. Of course people have oded by trying to make it a rec drug as they keep taking it to "feel" it. Just be careful with it. Also it is a more long acting benzo unlike xanax which leaves the body faster therefore you feel the effects.
OccularFantasm
28-06-2007, 23:43
Swim has had interesting times with benzos. When swim was a few years younger, swim would take these drugs and feel sort of uncoordinated and real relaxed and kinda high. Certain ones simply made swim fall asleep (4mg of ativan). Nowadays however, swim doesnt get a single thing from it. The thing is swim doesn't have a tolerance. Its also interesting to note that the drug has no effect with or without an anxiety attack or insomnia. Swim has noticed the same thing with ambien, and wonders if the two are somehow related.
I use it to sleep but when I use 1mg during the day it only slows me down and thats the last thing I need. The problem is I'm taking chantix to stop smoking but the shit turns you into a maniac.Is snorting it less long term after effect?
Psych0naut
13-07-2007, 23:28
Please always include the chemical name of pharmaceutical drugs in your posts. Do not just use ativan and klonopin, but also use their pharmaceutical names, lorazepam and clonazepam. This can be easily obtained from Google or other search engine. Doing so will avoid confusion on this international forum. Thank you.
most SWIY's have the same opinion on benzos as SWIM; they have no recretional value on themselves. however, combined with opiates and/or alcohol, SWIY will feel the strong potentiation of every other relaxing drug, may it be bud, opiates or alcohol. however, those combinations are also dangerous and potentially life threating (for example, SWIM can drink 10 0.5 bottles of beer and then he's really drunk. however, 2mg lorazepam und 2 beer and SWIM's done if he didn't take benzos for a while).
Klonopin has a huge half-life,and therefore over time say two weeks will have SWIM in a 24/7 benzo state.
I want in bored and broke
Underorbit
19-07-2007, 19:39
Most benzodiazepines to my knowledge (and based off of the majority of world's composition) has no -true- recreational usage outside of slowing things down a bit and causing immense relaxation (some are exceptions.) Of course, some do have highly valued standalone usage (and have been mentioned before.) With Klonopin (clonazepam,) especially if you're taking it correctly, you may feel tired for the initial week of usage, then all side effects disappear. You simply just wake up one day and realize, "Hey, I want to go out n' do things - not be reclusive like usual." SWIM assumes the recreational value of clonazepam comes from its secondary effect on serotonin. However, SWIM figures the dosage of using clonazepam recreationally really only adds up to the normal dose one takes on a daily basis of a SSRI. SWIM's heard of people using clonazepam to intensify other substances, especially ones that cause CNS depression and react with the opioid receptors. However, SWIM would never try such thing - SWIM needs his clonazepam to function on a daily basis.
JapanHorrorUncut
31-07-2007, 17:27
SWIM doesn't like snorting pills, seems pointless since SWIM does not think the nose can absorb the drug better then the stomach. Anyway, SWIM thinks clonazepam is fun if used in a high enough dose, lets say 3-6 mg. But with everything it all depends on the person. SWIM mixed two clonazepams (2mg each), a 2mg Xanax and SWIM was floating after a glass of white wine. SWIM has tried looking for info about Clonazepam on the net and found the same info repeated. SWIM is happy SWIM found this board to read about other info.
JapanHorrorUncut
31-07-2007, 17:51
SWIM was wondering if people feel a "Valium high" from Clonazepam like I had read? If so at what dose?
been prescribed 1mg clonazepams for years. Great to have around if SWYM trips in strange places.
JapanHorrorUncut
02-08-2007, 16:34
When mixed with booze , it gives SWIM the xanax groggy feeling the next day. Gave SWIM the greatest night sleep in a long time.
Yeah but, benzo's are way overrated. They are ment for sleep/anti-anxiety and panic disorder. Not to get high off of.
Agree, they signficantly affect no dopaminergic areas; that said--"benzo's are way overrated"--not if you have an established (neurocellular) addiction to them, they're not. For some people, GABAnergic changes have beome so profound and durable that people need bzds onboard to function like normal people. For more than a few, "recovery" (colloquial term for readaptation to a neuronal homoetasis) can take years.
Don't go there, ever.
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asplinteredfawn
09-08-2007, 01:46
Sorry to say but the stupidest thing that SWIM did was flush that box of pills when he KNEW he had a benzo addiction. What was he thinking? " Oh, if I flush my crimes that God will cure me?" "Oh, I have to get rid of all these pills or they will find them? " You can die from benzo withdrawal and if he didn't after taking taking as many pills as he said he did hes either lying about the entire thing or he is EXTREMELY lucky... Unless, you forgot to mention that SWIM ended up going on some sort of even small taper or detox. The second almost even more stupid thing SWIM did was go back to the same pharmacy. I know someone who used to break into ma and pa pharmacies and steal amphetamines and Dilaudid. At least he was smart enough to check out the scene of the crime first and go clear headed. CRIME is bad specifically when a VICTIM is involved. Think about who owned that pharmacy SWIM? Think about how much shit they had to go through to explain the loss of pills and all the time w/ calls to different people and insurance company's, not to mention the police. Unless it was like a right aid or cvs, I don't have much sympathy for them, but still... I was relieved to hear that SWIM was under 18, not cos' he didn't end up w/ tons of crazy charges and wasn't raped in prison but because it explains maybe 1/6th of the extremely idiotic behavior displayed by a SWIM on this form. Plus, clonazepam is a drug for people like SWIM. Almost everyone I know who has raved about clonazepam is responsible for complete idiocy and is full of completely irresponsible asinine action, and don't let SWIM blame the benzo's. SWIM is just one of the MANY of millions of people on this planet who don't give a care about any other human beings on this planet. I hope this isn't a fake SWIM and isn't the poster.
upperdecker
12-08-2007, 18:13
SWIM has been tapering off from 3mg a day down to .5 and by now hasn't had any Clonazepam in 4 days now and isn't feeling any withdrawal (atleast nothing real bad), is it possible that he just won't have withdrawal? SWIM has been taking the medication for about 8 months now.
OccularFantasm
13-08-2007, 16:27
That is very possible. Tapering down is definitely a lot easier (and safer) than stopping abruptly. This could cause for a significantly easier detox and withdrawal period. Basically, you win.
bromazepam 6mg vs clonasepam 2mg ....can anyone tell me the difference.
OccularFantasm
13-08-2007, 20:09
A 3mg dose of bromazepam is equivalent to a 5mg dose of diazapam, so 6mg is a medium dose. It is a benzo derrivitive, so it works on the gaba receptor and such. If you desire more chemical info, wikipedia would probably suffice.
Or you could try a search on df! There's a thread here...
http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=16647&highlight=bromazepam
and also one here...
http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=12493&highlight=bromazepam
upperdecker
13-08-2007, 23:29
SWIM also likes to sometimes take maybe 8 1mg pills at once and then not take any for like 4 days and still feels fine. Could SWIM still not feel any withdrawal?
SWIM this, SWIM that. Good grief Charlie Brown.
Excuse the directness of a newbie to the board, but god. damn. Plz indulge an O/T post: It's not like we're advocating mainlining heroin or the distribution of ICE on street-corners here. While it's true anything we post on a public board could conceivably come back to bits us in the ass, abusing Klonopin??? COME ON, here.
Shit, I'd be afraid to EVER post my receiving experiences from an OP (on that other notorious, gigantous board) if I were that goddamn paranoid.
I'm just saying give me a break here. lol Or at least explain the paranoia. You REALLY think that BATF/DEA is going to come bash down your down at 4 a.m. one morning because your posted your experiences with benzodiazepines? Really?
Here, watch: I have a chronic, low-level, lingering addiction to bzd. I'm an alcoholic, sober (or 'dry' if you prefer) 11 years now. But I still love and on a neurocellular level my bzds. I maintain this habit through ordering from Internt-based overseas sources. I never keep 'stockpiles' of the stuff. I have never sold nor otherwise distributed in my life. I use them as I need them, solely for myself.
There now. Having decribed my bzd-useage procurement, do you think I'm anticipating have my goddamn door crashed in over the next 3 days?
ffs people unless you're dealing or using Sch II drugs, R-E-L-A-X.
SWIM this, SWIM that. It's just the strangest pattern of forum parlance I have ever come across, and believe me when I say no one in LE these day--how ever many proxy-servers or other sophisticated anononymers you may use, if they want ya - they can find ya.
Again, sorry for O/T but just happpend upon the message-notification in my Inbox and after seeing posts litterly SWIMMING in what is clearly quite transparent denial of self-involvement... I couldn't resist.
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Clonazepam is a schedule IV substance in the US but schedule 2 in most other countries.
But asides that, it is not a matter of how you perceive a rule. It is a matter of you being allowed here, as long as you follow our rules. If you are capable to do so then good. If not, then go find your notorious board.
yeah i think you should follow the rules. I began here not to long ago and just recently learned that you can't post prices. No matter what schedule chemical that we're refereeing to. I think that the moderators are doing a great job here and wish to continue on this board. Keep up the good work.
D_F.co.uk is holding it down :vibes:
I'm sorry, I'm confused. Was that directed towards me? Jatelka already explained this policy (very well, I might add) to me in PM. I do appreciate my membership here and I am capable of following and respecting all house-rules.. Beyond that though, I can perceive a thing any goddamned way I want. My opinions--which were *all* I expressed in the above post--are completely out of your jurisdiction, mate.
SWIM was wondering if people feel a "Valium high" from Clonazepam like I had read? If so at what dose?
Swim suggests at 1 to 2 mg that swim would feel stronger effects than a Valium buzz.
Yet diazepam is the single most lipophilic, or fat-soluble bzd out there. What this means is it penetrates the BBB most quickly and for some can provide a just as equally immediate 'buzz' type of experience as far more potent bzds.
And yet, as just stated, clonazepam and alprazolam *are* many times more potent than diazepam.
So why is this? Well, theory suggests that the speed of onset; how quickly the user "feels a the change" is a more determinant factor in the ultimate or overall potency of a drug.
Well to me, that's just plain strange. Potent is potent; stronger is stronger. What the hell could explain the preference for diazepam 10 mg (for example) over a therapeutically equivalent dose?
Any thoughts?
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liquid303
20-08-2007, 06:20
i read in this area last night that SWIM snorted klonopins (clonazepam). they said 3 pills at one time. well SWIM tried this last night with 1 and damn that was an awful feeling. SWIM had to flush his nostrils because the feeling and taste when breathing was unbearable. SWIM does not recommend doing this if your thinking about it.
SWIM also can say that snorting the 15mg Tamezepam powder that comes from the capsules almost made him choke. for starters he said that it was alot of powder and second it tasted almost chalky. SWIM's conclusion he says is benzos are best taken the way they should be. orally. bottom line.
Metalcore322
23-08-2007, 08:03
Mr. Angry recently aquired some Clonazepam. Mr. Angry knows very little about them so it would be stupid to blindly take it. Does it do anything good? At what dose is it noticable and also what dose would be an overdose? and is it snortable?
thx
merc11292
23-08-2007, 08:30
clonazepam is like most benzo's if u dont have a tolerence then yea .5 would get swiy off i assume, im almost positive it is snortable, but if its in a tablet not a capsule swiy could prolly just put it under there tongue instead of snorting. I hear there quite good but too much makes u black out. i have no idea wut the overdose dose is hopefully some1 else can answer that 1. there a thread somewhere around here about "whats ur favorite benzo" if swiy looks at that swiy can prolly find more exact info on it.
Metalcore322
23-08-2007, 08:56
Thx
Mr. Angry got impatient and blew a line consisting of 1 1mg pill. It feels fuckin amazing in the nose..sorta like menthol. Mr. Angry is also feeling a nice buzz...might blow another...
Clonazepam is not water soluble, therefore snorting it is a deeply inefficient way to take it (and will result in a nose full of binders).
It is rapidly and completely absorbed following oral administration, and peak plasma levels occur within an hour. If your meercat wants quicker onset, then sl would be the way to go
Metalcore322
23-08-2007, 19:58
Is there anyway to turn it snortable....
(although Mr. Angry snorted 2mg of it yesterday and got effects...
and still feels them alittle...wierd)
Metalcore322
25-08-2007, 06:41
Correct me if I'm wrong but won't adding a strong acid to it make is water-soluble...but from there one would imagine it would have to be evaporated and the re-powered. Any help on this?
Why is Mr Angry so desperate about snorting them???? Can't he just eat them like Mr Nice does???
Metalcore322
26-08-2007, 06:38
I hear that they don't work for Mr. Angry when taking them but snorting them just hits him perfect.
Metalcore322
26-08-2007, 06:38
Could anyone help with Mr.Angry's question by the way?
methMADMAN
26-08-2007, 06:50
Tell mr. Angry to shove it up his ass! No, really, I hear rectal administration works great, but I'm proud to confess I have no firsthand knowlege!
Metalcore322
26-08-2007, 06:57
Gah...ummm rectal ain't really my/his thing.
methMADMAN
26-08-2007, 09:06
Me either, but some folks around here shove everything they can imagine might twist their percetion of reality up their asses or so it sometimes seems to one who has no interest....:laugh:
Could anyone help with Mr.Angry's question by the way?
Don't know about the addition of acid thing but,
Different methods of administration do work differently for different people for sure.
For example, sublingual administration of benzos works very well for many yet produces very little effect for SWIM, while oral does produce effect.
Although the fact that most benzos are not water soluble means insuffalation should be of little effect, if it works for Mr. Angry, then well, it works for Mr. Angry.
As madman says rectal administration is suppossedly a great way to take benzos so that might work great for some but maybe not so great for others.
SWIM isn't too keen on finding out. :)
In fact i can't uderstand people use benzo's for fun.
Like someone on the board said he/she felt after taking Xanax ;
drifting around all wrapped up in pink cotton', what the hell, are
those people on LSD or what ?!:laugh:
She's the moderator of this forum buddy. Tread lightly. ;)
SWIM this, SWIM that. Good grief Charlie Brown.
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I'm just saying give me a break here. lol Or at least explain the paranoia. You REALLY think that BATF/DEA is going to come bash down your down at 4 a.m. one morning because your posted your experiences with benzodiazepines? Really?
Yeah, the SWIM thing was a tad annoying when I first started posting on this forum, but that's because I wasn't taking the place seriously. Now I understand why it's a policy.
It's something called "common sense". This is a forum dedicated to the discussion of illicit substances. The admins and moderators don't run this place like tyrants, they enforce rules more strictly here to protect the community. That's what makes DF different from the other sites in our category.
This is by far the most ordered drug-related forum on the internet, because the people in charge have adopted policies that protect users from potentially incriminating themselves (however theoretical), and from letting the place slide into a disordered mess of a forum where people post whatever the hell they want.
I've never tried to run a forum, but I moderated on a fairly large one, and I can tell you from experience that it actually takes a lot of work to keep things running smoothly for the community. With only one exception, every single admin and mod on that forum was just trying to make the forum as best as could be.
We weren't trying to tell people what to do. Read your post again, the arrogance and hypocrisy (you telling us what to do) is impressive.
melsue420
04-09-2007, 06:35
swim only takes the sublingual kind of clonazapan...they dissolve under swim's tongue(they taste GOOD)...swim likes about 8 mg or more...but swim has been known to do crazy things at times.....when swim started taken them, swim only took about 3 or 4 mg at a time....and swim has never even considered snorting them....even after tolerance issues and years of taking them...binders suck
upperdecker
20-10-2007, 18:14
Here's a thought of why some people find benzo's recreational and some don't. If you take it for anxiety, they will pretty much take away all the anxiety and negative feelings that they are taking it for leaving a sort of high. This high is because they are so use to being anxious all the time and it is simply just washed away. Now if you have no anxiety problems/panic attacks and just take it to get high there's a good chance it won't work because you have no anxiety to get rid of. I hope that makes sense. BUT, if you just went about and took IDK 8mg of a benzoid you will definitely feel something whether you have anxiety problems or not.
all common benzodiazepines have recreational value that why they are illegal,they cause euphoria,all depends on the individual and there previous drug use,metabolism,ect.try mixing it with grapefruit juice it makes it stronger something to do with enzymes in your liver.
IMO snorting benzo is stupid
Agent420
30-05-2008, 22:02
I've taken almost every benzodiazipine know to man, but have settled on a combo of Clonazepam and Temazepam (legally I might add). The T to kick in quick and the C to continue the duration of the combo. Insuffilating either of these pills gives no real benifit, as most of it will run down your throat and end up in your liver anyway. Alcohol also almost triples (or more) the effect of these drugs. You will pass out and might leave the stove on or the bath tub running. Dangerous situation. The Temazepam comes in gel caps with power inside and the Clonazepam comes in very small orange hard pills. Just swallow them and give yourself 45mins or so for the effect to come on. But again, be careful when talking booze with these pills. If you do drink heavily and take this combo, or any other benzo combo, just throw on a dvd and lay on the couch and gracefully chill out. I use this combo for alcohol withdrawl. Absolute life saver. I also take 150mg of 24hr sustained release Bupropion (Wellbutrin). Good luck.
Agent420:)
Halcion Dreams
31-05-2008, 00:45
Oddly swim has found that Clonazepam seems to be the vast favored benzo by physicians....which likely means it has the lowest abuse potential. swim would gladly take a 30mg (or even 15 mg) Oxazepam over a 0.5 Clonozepam anyday. And sadly Xanax has such a bad rep in swim's area that NO ONE EVER GETS IT PRESCRIBED. For shear recreation swim's preference would be a mouthful of sublingual ativan (lorazepam)........:)
darkbreed
31-05-2008, 01:19
Clonazepam can be a nice benzo. But snorting it doesn't sound like a good way if you want to get most out of them. SWIM personally finds the most effective way to let it melt under the tounge (his clonazepams are called Rivotril and they are 2mg and can be split in 4 x 0.5 mg pieces, they are white and taste sweet, quickly dissolves in the mouth). He has also tried the rectal route last days which seems to double, if not more, the effects of the benzos. Other than that, just swallowing them down on an empty stomach works fine. Could be you are like me and just got a bit higher tolerance than most people, so try ingest more at a time if so is needed.
Regarding the rectal route, it is far from as bad as it sounds (SWIM was a big skeptic towards this route himself for years, but decided couple days ago to give it a try after reading a lot about how effective it is). You just need a syringe, without needle, lets say 5ml like SWIM got, suck up half of syringe with water, other half with alcohol (SWIM uses 35% alc), shoot it out in a cup, crush the pills up to fine powder and mix it in there, stir well and suck it back up into the syringe. Then gently insert the syringe into you know where, considering the size of the syringe is not thicker than a finger this is not painful at all (most of the things that naturally comes out are generally much thicker). Lubing the syringe up some first can help (either with saliva, lube, some oil like olive oil, some gel like aloe vea etc, or other stuff that wont be bad for the buttocks)
Then just squeeze it in as deep you can get it and splash the solution in. Pull it out and wait some minutes and the effects comes on (usually takes around 5 min for the effects to be noticed for SWIM done this way)