View Full Version : Snorting - Everything SWIY Needs to Know About Snorting Benzodiazepines
magicmaster141
18-11-2004, 06:07
Are there any "snortable" benzoos? In other words just water solable right? Mainly thinking about k-pins. Thanks
I don't think they're water soluble - so, no.
Has anyone tried this? what are the effects like?
clonazepam isn't soluble in water, so it may not absorb as well in your
mucous membrane. but SWIM does have friends that swear by snorting
xanax, k-pins, and valiums that it fucks you up more. basically, it
might hit you a little faster by the small amount that is absorbed in
your nose. the rest will drip down your throat and absorb in your
stomach. SWIM would rather eat pills than snort them, since it doesnt'
do much more... unless you are talking about oxys.
MegaLab420
01-03-2005, 21:32
Im sorry, but this is just stupid.
Klonopins can disolve in you mouth and hit you fast enough this way. People looking to snort everything up their nose generally end up dead before their time would have otherwise been up.
yeah I am a thrill and a half seaker and I'll see you when you get there
whatever i've put lots up there doesn't mean one is more or less
sensable doseage comes into account lots of things. Just cause
someone likes to snort stuff doesn't make him an irresponsible junkie
(or at least anymore than anyone eating, smoking, or injecting the shit
too)
I thought that is what these forums were here for? Information so you don't make a stupid mistake or waste yer stash.
thanks for making ppl feel welcome!
have a nice day
I snorted xanax once which is like the same thing basically, i felt it, but not as intesnse
Thanks for a respectfull informative post.
twominds
04-03-2005, 11:09
As others have said its not water soluable. Most benzos in tablet form aren't.
Most of the affects that you feel from snorting a benzo are because the
drip eventually hits your stomach and gets metabolized. Snorting it
might let a very small part of it kick in faster, but the majority is
just absorbed normally from the drip. IF you like snorting, go ahead
and snort, but you won't get a much better affect from it.
brooklyn718
07-03-2005, 20:34
I remember a few trials form snorting. I would feel incredibly sped up, walk around in circles for awhile. Then It would hit me 20 minutes later and I would have the dizzy comfotable feeling all over my body. The effects last just as long as taken orally for some reason
sunshine
30-03-2005, 00:26
I would also have to say that snorting clonazepam is not such a good idea since it is so easily soluble in your mouth. just put the pill below your tongue and let it dissolve, you should get the same effects that you would from snorting it, if not more since some will be left in your nose when snorting it. I have been taking clonazepam for a little over a year now and snorting it never alloweed me to get all of the desired effects I knew from just orally taking it.
happatai
25-05-2005, 09:51
would it be fine to crush up a valium or xanax and snort it for the
same effects? would it be felt quicker, stronger, but shorter lasting?
(like vicodin)
i'm really all about timing... if i am going to mix drugs, i want the
experience to be with each drug at strongest peak, simultaneously. at
what time lapse should i mix a beer with some valium? just start
drinking once i feel the valium kick in?----- and as for smoking
marijuana while on valium, it takes me about 5-10 minutes to become
high, so take the valium maybe 5 minutes before smoking?
i really hate asking questions... but this forum is to help people, and you all seem friendly. thank you.
pokeymcsmot420
25-05-2005, 18:14
you can snort the xanax and valium for quicker stronger and shorter lasting effects, but i would not suggest it.
i would let them disolve under your tongue, should also be quicker stronger and shorter lasting, but wont burn, and also you lose lots of it in your nose.
i would suggest taking about 2 mg of xanax under your tongue and sparking a joint up while its dissolving. this will help it to dissolve quicker and help the taste. by the time your finishd smoking the joint you will probably be feeling the effects of both.
p.s. snorting vicodindoesnt really work that well, just eat em.
BrandonAA
26-05-2005, 21:35
yea dude, don;t snort vicodans there is way more tylenol compared to the hydrocodone. i believe that snorting benzo's hit's you twice as hard but last half as long (as mentioned above). you have the right idea, i would say begin drinking as you swallow your pills as both will hit you at about the same time. once you are feeling that, smoke some trees for a nice glazed feeling.
come back and tell your story
BlueMystic
16-06-2005, 23:03
would it be fine to crush up a valium or xanax and snort it for the same effects? would it be felt quicker, stronger, but shorter lasting? (like vicodin)
Pretty much all benzo's aren't water soluble. Meaning that you won't get any extra effect from snorting them. The only effect that you will get is when the drip comes out in the back of your throat, you swallow it, and it ends up in your stomach. Therefore, snorting benzo's is just a waste. Period...
Snorting vicodin is also a waste. For that 5 - 7.5 mg's hydrocodone you are also snorting 500 - 750 mg's of acetaminophen (tylenol). Snorting tylenol can cause some health issues including a nastylung infection.
Think about your actions and do some quality research. Don't just eat, snort, or smoke anything because you might think that it will get you higher then the way something is meant or not meant to be taken.Edited by: BlueMystic
Gahaba22
17-06-2005, 04:08
Very sound advice BlueMystic.
PUT THEM UNDER YOUR TOUNGE! you'll feel the effects much quicker!!
how does suglinqual absorbtion work differently from intranasal?
are the mucuous mebranes under your tongue more permeable somehow?
I'm pretty certain Versed/Dormicum (midazolam)is a benzo which is soluble in water..and thereforemore suitable for snorting - or iv if that's your choice.
Personally, I've experimented with the latter, which was quite an enjoyable experience..although a little amnesia (as expected) followed.
How well would snorting temazepam work? I know most benzos don't work well snorted because they arn't soluble in water, but according to rxlist.com
Temazepam is a white, crystalline substance, very slightly soluble in water and sparingly soluble in alcohol.
and for xanax they say
Alprazolam is a white crystalline powder, which is soluble in methanol or ethanol but which has no appreciable solubility in water at physiological pH.
So I would assume it would work better for snorting then xanax. So would temazepam give stronger affects snorted than taken orally?Edited by: Dextro
BrandonAA
25-08-2005, 20:42
i am going to make an assumption. assuming your source for that info is reliable, then yea obviously it would absorb well in your mucous membranes. damn temazepam is fresh ass shit, too. do it and post the experiance. good luck bro.
What effect do you get from snorting them, I've got a pitt load of them in my safe, I keep getting my refills but never take them, because the xanax puts me to sleep fine, it's generic for resterol isn't it? A helpfull aid to just go to sleep.
I just got a prescription for temazepam (Restoril) for the first time
ever today and this thread is curious to me cause if they work better
absorbed through the nasal passages than through the stomach, I'd
rather get more bang for my buck if you know what I'm saying. My
prescription is only for 10 so I have to get the most out of them that
I can.
Tried it...liked it...it burned a bit...not a bad thing at all.:applause:
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PrideKills
21-09-2005, 03:15
As everyone else said, use them sublingually. Snorting them would provide just about the same effect.
The effects are definently stronger when I snort them. I always snort them when I get them.
jesusfreak666er
27-09-2005, 14:23
doesnt snort well, swollow or chew if u want, though it does feel minty in ur
nose
pokeymcsmot420
30-09-2005, 04:55
the blue 1mg ones taste like pez sublingually
snorting kpins never has noticably increased affects forswimwhos tried it several times.
pharmapsyche
17-10-2005, 03:14
I've had two different experiences with Temazepam. One with swallowing the pill, and the other with snorting. With my first experience of swallowing the pill i felt a strong benzo-euphoria. With snorting, i felt something, but nothing that was quite as strong, but also i didn't get to snort as much as i swallowed the time before. To me, it didn't burn to bad at all, and the aftertaste wasn't all to bad, my friend at the time with me, hated the aftertaste and also reported to a little bit of burning. I think if i had the chance again i would probably swallow the pills, although i'd defiantly experiment with snorting them again too. Good luck, and let us know how it goes.
Has anyone ever snorted ativan... ive taken a few mg's by mouth before and it fucked me up pretty good, however the ouking and falling and fucking my ankle up wasnt the best part... but has anyone snorted it, and the results??
Micklemouse
26-10-2005, 10:20
This is a Benzo (also known as Lorazepam). Please look in the benzo forum or use the search engine at the top of the page.
Welcome to the forum, btw. Don't forget to read the Rules! http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif !
markdahman
26-10-2005, 22:01
Benzo;s are not soluble in ur nose... useless 2 snort maybe ud get high off the drips but thats it.
armatitumor
26-10-2005, 23:54
Snorting Ativan will not prevent you from puking or falling, and it probably won't work very well, if at all. Stick to oral use.
Powder_Reality
18-01-2006, 16:02
SWIM would like to know if snorting lorazepam is an effective route of administration? What are the effects and recommended doses for snorting it in comparison to oral administration?
Lorazepam isn't water soluble, so snorting it isn't really a good idea. It won't dissolve in your mucus membrane, the only effects you'll get out of it are the drip down the back of your throat into your stomache, therefore you are better off administering it orally.
Sublingual ingestion. Break it up (lorazepams are small, you shouldnt have to) and put it under your tongue untill it's gone. Comes on much quicker.
XCorruptX
21-01-2006, 21:32
some lorazepam tablets are sublingual and some aren't... I took some lorazepam before and i just swallowed them, I never even heard of sublingual till reading this so could someone tell me if they were the sublingual kind would there be different effects and would this be bad to swallow it. thanx
IHrtHalucingens
21-01-2006, 21:46
i dont think there are sublingual kinds, u can administer any pill orally, sublingually, insuffated, and i guess IM and IV with some work. It just depends on the substance that is being taken whether one or another is better. Most benzos are not water soluble so not good to snort. however if u want the quicker acting effects then u can stick any pill under your tongue and it will enter the blood stream quicker. but last shorter. So it depends on the substance and your personal [preference.
XCorruptX
21-01-2006, 22:09
thanks but i have another question how does the water solubility effect snorting, does the pill have to be water soluable to feel the effects if you snort it..?
IHrtHalucingens
22-01-2006, 22:48
If the substance is not water soluble very little of it crosses the blood brain barrier which means you would need a higher dose to feel the same effects as popping it or dissolving it under the tongue. So basically its a waste of lorazepam to snort it and your are more likely to feel adverse affects of the drug because of the maount you must take nasally.
eat em and there money! snorting gives you a very very dry powder in your passages and have seen many ppl puke and they where no rookiess. suggest that you open pills in mouth and drink down with a beer or 12 roll a blunt packed with a 30mg cap full of powder and just chill... thats how we roll! (well back b4 i went to rehab guess i rolled a little too hard)
Snorting is a pure waste IMO.
Let them dissolve under your tongue or just chew on them.
3 - 5 mg would be enough.
Juicelvlan
17-02-2006, 21:00
Do you get a better and more intense high when you snort xanax, or would it be better to just eat it whole? dont go by saftey precautions, just give me honest answer.
IHrtHalucingens
17-02-2006, 21:14
Xanax has poor solubility in water which means very little of it crosses the blood brain barrier. It would be better to eat it whole or dissolve it under you tongue. If you can take the taste dissolving it under your tongue is the quickest acting and most intense way mentioned, but of course its not as long lasting as eating it. If your open minded enough you should read my thread on administering xanax rectally. Good luck.
like IHrt said the taste of that stuff is pretty nasty, I can't imagine anyone being able to tolerate the drip personally. I'm not sure anything that lacks anesthetic properties is really worth the trouble of snorting. just my opinion.
powderhead55
29-03-2006, 00:07
i was just reading about benzos and that they cant be snorted because they dont dissolve "easily" in water and i had an idea
this might be totally wrong, even stupid if you want to go that far, but i know from my cocaine days that hot-railing is quicker to come on because the coke gets hot as it travels up the tube and dissolves easier into the membranes, could this work for benzo's? its basically the principle that most things will dissolve in water alot easier if heated
SWIM doesnt have easy access to pills and really doesnt want to waste the ones he has if this doesnt work, anyone want to give it a try and report? (since there have been a rush of snorting posts lately) thanks
SWIM is sticking to sublingual ingestion on these. Doubt any significant change will happen when hotrailing benzos.
blondie8734
16-05-2006, 06:15
From Wikipedia:
Nasal insufflation (often called "snorting") sometimes occurs, but due to the drug's chemical structure, it is not absorbed through the mucous membranes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucous_membranes). Instead, the powdered tablets and mucous drip down the back of the throat into the stomach, where they are absorbed as they would have been if taken orally.
Therefore, insufflation of the drug is no more potent than when taken orally, and it often severely irritates the nasal passages.
Furthermore, nasal insufflation may be significantly less potent than other means of administrations on a dosage-per-time basis, because the mucous drip enters the stomach at a slower rate than traditional ingestion. Also, when the drug is snorted, the user often "passes out" into a deep sleep and later wakes up disoriented, having no memory of what occurred prior to sleeping.
SWIJ would also imagine that heating the inactive binders would be particularly irritating to SWIY's mucous membranes (and likely taste/smell of burning plastic!)
So the consensus here is: Do NOT insufflate (or even hotrail) benzos!
Pills are meant for eating.
And on that note... SLAM!
Swim snots, but is it bad to for SWIM to snort Xanax
It may not be bad for SWIY, but it is a highly ineffective method of taking it!
Xanax is not water soluble, therfore any absorption is via post-nasal drip (yummy). Besides who wants wax, chalk and all the other binder crap up their nose?
SWIM snorts xanax but prefers to pop some b4 SWIM feels this is much more effecive than taking a large amount, get about 1mg in your system if you have a lower tolerance start with .5mg
IHrtHalucingens
09-08-2006, 04:48
Try sublingual it works almost as fast as snorting and is alot more effective because as jatelka says its not water soluble and doesnt cross the BBB when snorted.
Nagognog2
09-08-2006, 06:53
Considering how fast Xanax seems to work orally, I'm waiting for someone to ask if they could drill a hole in their skull and just sprinkle the powder directly into their brain. Maybe squoosh it down there good with a chopstick or something, too. DoOd!
SWIM was just wondering, SWIM loves snorting, will snort anything just to get that same burn SWIM would get from METH.So I dont think SWIM minds a lil chalk and filler, well w/e SWIM will never snort a full bar just a quater. By the way is a BAR 2MG?
Forthesevenlakes
09-08-2006, 09:42
yes, a bar is 2 mg. and as for what nagog says...maybe someone can try trepanning it, dood!
sourceman
10-08-2006, 21:19
It may not be bad for SWIY, but it is a highly ineffective method of taking it!
Xanax is not water soluble, therfore any absorption is via post-nasal drip (yummy). Besides who wants wax, chalk and all the other binder crap up their nose?
This is exactly right. SWIY will only get the effects of the drip, and not all the material snorted even makes it to the drip! SWIY is wasting his pills.
Sublingual is a fast way to take xanax but tastes horrible! Someone in the thread reccommended plugging (up the butt) does this work with xanax? seems like a lot of work when it has very high bio-availability when injested.. Maybe some people like stuff up their butt, but I'd rather swallow, lol..:rolleyes:
Also, friends don't let friend snort xanax!
Benzeneringz
17-08-2006, 21:42
Snorting temazepam definatly works. The trick is to spend some time crushing the powder after you empty it out of the capsule. Even though it looks like a nice find powder, it has many large chuncks that will not be absorbed to any significant degree. Use a jar to accomplish this task by rolling it over the powder several times.
jesusfreak666er
17-08-2006, 22:01
seems dumb, swim doesnt know how water soluble temazapam is, most benzos are not very and therefore snort poorly, plus restoril is so quick acting isnt the oral form nice enough, a good alternative to snorting is a restoril enema, there is a thread on enema benzos, buch more effective then snorting.
Benzeneringz
18-08-2006, 04:23
True, most benzodiazepines have no appreciable solubility in water. But "most" doesn't mean "all". A handful of benzodiazepines do have appreciable solubility in water. Temazepam is in fact water soluble, which means it can successfully enter the bloodstream through the mucous membranes of the nose and sinus passage.
Temazepam does indeed have a rapid onset of action when taken orally. But it has a more rapid onset when sniffed. Plus, you avoid first pass metabolism by sniffing the drug. Rectal administration is a lot like sniffing, but there are a few major differences between the two. Sniffing temazepam will result in a very rapid onset of action. The subjective effect is generally more intense: this is because the dose enters the brain virtually all at once. With oral administration, temazepam slowly diffuses into the brain at a constant rate. Rectal administration results in a quicker onset of action than oral delivery but a slower onset of action than sniffing. Rectal administration, like sniffing, avoids first-pass metabolism. However, the maximum amount of drug present in the body is highest with rectal administration. Sniffing gives a rapid dose of temazepam to the brain but has a shorter duration than rectal or oral. Rectal slowly gives you the highest peak plasma level and thus has a longer duration of action than sniffing. But since the "feel good" quality of any drug has to do with the time it takes to reach the brain. Since sniffing is quicker then rectal, it feels better. Trust me, I'm prescribed to temazepam and have done both.
SWIM just verified that lorazepam is insoluble in water -- and this immediately after snorting a tablet :(. WTF, this eliminates rectal administration as a possibility too, unless the stuff was dissolved in propylene glycol or something similar.
Edit -- it's interesting to note that the lorazepam SWIM snorted is having a pretty rapid effect anyway. It's certainly a much better quality of relaxation than he gets from clonazepam (the "sh*t sugar pill" of benzos, and nearly worthless as far as SWIM is concerned).
Thermite
05-10-2006, 08:47
Quick question on Temazepam. I assume even though it is powder there is still some fillers or binders. Recently SWIM got a refill of Temazepas SWIM usually get the yellow mylan ones 30mg. This time swim got the white GG 532 pills 30 mg sandoz. Well swim dropped a cap into a spoon w warm water and mixed. I then used a cotton and loaded a rig through a cotton. u100 was used. it was a white milky substance but it looked good. I slammed it, slowly. it was hard to tell if i hit the vein due to the milky solution but i hit it. Effects hit pretty quick. and deffinitely felt it. My question. Shold I have maybe done a cwe oon this before trying t IV it? Since temazepam is water soluble i figure there has to be a way to iv it.
Thermite: Several things:
1) This is a thread about snorting benzos: Why has SWIY posted about iv use?
2) Temazepam is not water soluble
3) Do NOT iv pills. Pills are meant for eating. They are full of binders and other crap which are exceeding dangerous to SWIY's veins. There is a serious risk of thrombo-embolism and infection. If SWIY was not in the vein there there is a risk of muscle damage/tissue necrosis and abscess formation.
There are multiple threads on the (un)wiseness of injecting pills, including a useful Sticky here...
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16200
Please UTFSE (Use The Fucking Search Engine) in future
The water solubility of Temazepam is 164mg/L (ie NOT very soluble at all). SWIJ would love to take huge amounts of credit for providing this information, but she lifted it directly from these...
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134049&postcount=4
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134275&postcount=6
posts.
Anyway... Back on Topic: "Everything SWIY Needs To Know About Snorting Benzos"
Everything SWIY Needs to Know About Snorting Benzos: Don't do it.
case closed.
Swim doesn't use benzos very often and not really for recreational value just sleep, but he has a few friends who snort their benzos such as valium and clonazepam. Swim wondered if there is any advantage to this? Are the potentiated? Do they hit faster? His friends say so but it doesn't seem like there would be any sence to this if they work fine orally.
ANy opinions on this?
The majority of benzos are not water soluble, and therefore there would be no advantage to snorting them, as any effect will take place via post nasal drip (yummy). SWIY will also end up with nasal passages full of binders.
not that swim was all that interested in it but someof his friends claim that is the only way to go. can we say placebo? shesh
drugsrbad
14-12-2006, 08:45
I have had friends that have said the same thing. I always thought they were right before i started reading that they werent water souble. Even if they were watersouble, the five minutes quicker that they work isn't worth snorting binders and such. Even though swim thinks they burn the least of all pills he has tried....kind of refreshing acctually. The drip is just gross though.
Placebo effect is very strong in many individuals, if not all. The brain is jsut a bunch of chemicals and receptors so if you think it is working then your brain might jsut make it work and release the same chemicals.
Swim's has exerienced snorting.. Xanax and Valium mixed and felt the effects in kinda the same way.. Was'nt to harsh not to bad but did get some effect. Not sure if one would recommend it But if the Xanax or valium are high mg's then im sure the effects are better:snort:
Well first of all, benzos aren't very soluable in the mucus membrane (as mentioned above), benzos tend to be small pills but are most of the time 80% fillers due to such small doses ie alprazolam, clonazepam, lorazepam; so there would be alot of unwanted material flying up your nostrils too, the experience would las shorter, and benzos are absorbed well orally, rectally, and sublingually sp? so SWIY might want to tell his friends try those methods instead.
Now wouldn't taking benzo's rectally be dangerous because of the fillers? unless they was in pure form. Such a diazpam solution? And yes most benzo's such as xanax do come in very low Mg's so you would be sniffing mostly fillers. Valium is the only one that swim can think of that comes in a higher Mg's and smaller pills.:snort:
^^^^^^
Actually rectal administration would be much safer than snorting. The fillers do not really interact with anything in your anal cavity and the medicine is absorbed quite well this way. SWIdr has tried this method numerous times over the past year or so, and has a word of advise is SWIY is thinking about rectal: Lower your normal oral dose!!!
But anyhow lets get back on topic, is there anyone who would think snorting benzos is better than popping them? Because SWIdr would definatly snort some substances, he would rather pop or plug his benzos.
Psych0naut
25-12-2006, 10:32
Midazolam is the only exception. Midazolam is the only benzo that exists in salt form, in SWIMs case, Midazolam maleate (Roche, Dormicum)
Riconoen {UGC}
26-12-2006, 21:10
all snorting benzos will do is get you high off the drip and give you the worst pain in your nose since snorting sulfuric acid.
highganja99
28-12-2006, 21:29
Don't bother snorting Benzo's, They won't be absorbed, plus they are strong enough orally anyway.
darkd3vil
04-01-2007, 15:34
indeed dont bother snorting benzo's, it will hurt your nose and you will only have some effect of the benzo dripping slowly to the GI tract. Midazolam can indeed be snorted being the only water soluble benzo. Sublingual for SWIM is a very strong and fast way of taking a benzodizepine.
Psych0naut
04-01-2007, 19:57
SWIM just found out that Flurazepam(Dalmadorm) is supplied as a salt as well, the hcl salt in most cases for as SWIM knows.
yes some rarely prescribed beanzos can be as or even more effective snorted than than orally taken, but most prescribed benzos (xanax-alprazolam, klonopin-clonazepam, valium-diazepam, ativan-lorazepam) are not very well absorbed when snorted.
darkd3vil
05-01-2007, 01:13
yes some rarely prescribed beanzos can be as or even more effective snorted than than orally taken, but most prescribed benzos (xanax-alprazolam, klonopin-clonazepam, valium-diazepam, ativan-lorazepam) are not very well absorbed when snorted.
So snorting your flurazepam might be very effective and as far as i think the halflife may be less then the usual 40-250 hours:eek:
darkd3vil
05-01-2007, 01:20
Just looking around Flunitrazepam(Rohypnol) is also a snortable benzo.
Sklander
07-01-2007, 01:21
^ The above post mentions a barbituate, not a benzo. Correct SWIM if he is mistaken...
Alprazolam is very insoluble in water, and therefore should not be snorted as a way of producing a quicker or stronger "rush".
SWIM is very experienced with using benzo's rectally, particularly, Alprazolam (Xanax). SWIM would recommend this method of administration to anyone looking to get good efficiency out of their drugs.
^ The above post mentions a barbituate, not a benzo. Correct SWIM if he is mistaken...
Well if SWIsklander is refering to flunitrazepam, he is mistaken. It is a very powerful benzo and rarely prescribed. SWIY may have gotten this misconception because of its association with "Date rape", because many sickos out there take advantage of this drug's, aka Rophy, powerful effects and spike girls drinks (mostly alcoholic) and then continue to have their way with them...
But back on the subject, yes flunitrazepam can be snorted to acheive a faster onset, but be careful because the pills have many fillers that are not the best for the nasal cavity.
Nagognog2
07-01-2007, 03:46
er...Rufies, or Ruphies - depending which side of the Mississippi you're from.
Yes - it's a benzodiazepine-class drug. Not a barbituate. Usually smuggled into the Untied Snakes from Mexico. Easy to find in Texas. Regards being a date-rape drug, and the visions of being knocked out cold and waking up in an alley with your pants off and your genitals all over the internet - it really isn't much stronger than a valium. But mixing any benzo with alcohol can have really bad effects. Including coma and death. Anyone who would slip that into someone's drink for sexual purposes should have their penis cut off. Or their pussy filled with concrete.
Don't.
SWIM has give or take 100-140 mg's (and alot more on the way ;-) of 99.9% pure alprazolam. Swim is very experienced with benzo's and knows how dangerouse pure alprazolam is (how incredibly small 2mg of pure powder looks) I am just interested in knowing what YOU guy think i should tell my friend is the best way of injesting? He was thinking about sublingual, but is wondering since it is such a meager amount, will it not somehow be absorbed poorly? Thanks alot!
WOAH!!! 100-140mgs, now thats alot....ohhh no wait, SWIY (someone who isnt you) just means he took that over the period of his life. By the way SWIY might want to read the rules about SELF INCRIMONATION. Sublingually or orally is the best way to take alprazolam, and SWIY might want to drink some grapefruit juice 20mins beforehand, you might want to UTFSE (Use the Forum Search Engine) on that one though.
Tappy: Here (http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21700&highlight=dosing+pure+alprazolam) is a thread dealing with this topic. SWIY should be very careful dosing and always use a scale. Also be aware of the risk of addiction from having access to such a large amount of alprazolam.
Contrary to popular belief, the nasal mucuous membranes aren't based entirely on water solubility, and benzos CAN be absorbed nasally. However, most of them (aside from midazolam) have a much higher oral rate, so there's really no reason to snort them. Plus eating is much easier.
monkeyman
31-03-2007, 17:29
SWIM has some lorazepam and midazolam can either of these be snorted. SWIM thought midazolam could as it is a polar molecule but a search here didn't bring any relevant results up.
Also SWIM wonders can the fillers in a roche dormicum 7.5mg be removed through fairly straight forward methods?
The lorazepam will be of no benefit snorted.
Midazolam - It is certainly a VERY powerful benzo when injected - in fact a definate no no for self injecting - can be very dangerous. SWIM is unsure if snorting would have a similar dangerous level of effect but certainly be careful. In most cases its probably not worth it.
Unless a person is desperately trying to make good use of the last amount of a drug they possess the general rule would be just use benzo's orally - much easier(plugging another route takes a long time to prepare), no problems, healthier (no fillers to snort).
Because most benzos dont dissolve in water, why not mix them with with something they ARE soluble in and snort the liquid (preferably after filtering out the pill binders).
SWIM remembers snorting sambucca and tequila when young and stupid, so I don't see why you couldnt mix with propylene glycol (available at most chem suppliers OTC), or perhaps grapeseed oil and everclear.
I'm sure it will be a bit painful, but SWIM has advised me that she is going to try that right now and let you know how it goes ..
SWIM said it worked like a charm but did sting like you'd expect it to.
clonazepam isn't soluble in water, so it may not absorb as well in your
mucous membrane. but SWIM does have friends that swear by snorting
xanax, k-pins, and valiums that it fucks you up more. basically, it
might hit you a little faster by the small amount that is absorbed in
your nose. the rest will drip down your throat and absorb in your
stomach. SWIM would rather eat pills than snort them, since it doesnt'
do much more... unless you are talking about oxys.
SWIMvwould just take valium or mots benzos sujblingually. snorting binding agents andwhat have you else doesn't sound too good to swin. Um. swim took 10 10mg roche valium today. Eaerlier he took 2mg of Xanax (but I think there's a tolerance to the xanax cause swim's been taking 2-4 mg a night for the last couple of weeks. SWIM certainly doesn't do it for pleasiure, it's a come down thing where xanax is preferred but there were only 2x1 mg left and 240 original Roche diaazepam. Sorry for the weird explanation, swim can barely read wahat I type. If I focus I can stay awake but I feel like if i closed my eyes for more than 5 seconds it'd be lights out. us ttrying to stay up a bit longer so I can be on a normal sleepoign pattern.
Anyone have any either firsthand experience, or factual knowledge backed up by research, regarding the different modes of benzo administration? Swim's always taken orally and had the desired effects.. but she wonders about sublingual vs. oral, and how the actual dosage/absorption differs.. as well as if crushing/parachuting pills orally as opposed to swallowing them in tablet form is more effective.. She recently underwent "conscious sedation" procedure for some dental work, took 10mg diazepam the night before, .25 mg midazolam orally/swallowed at 6am, plus a 0.5 clonazepam for good measure. arrived at dentist at 7am, hooked up to nitrous, and was then given another .25 midazolam within the half hour, only this time they crushed it and had her take sublingualy. These were the same pills- not two different versions for different methods of ingestion.. so how would this compare? Swim was apparently conscious and fine during the procedure, but remembers hardly anything, so she can't really shed much light on the comparison between the two different routes.. thanks for any input..
SWIM has snorted xanax on many occasions just because he enjoys snorting tings lol he has felt rushes when insufflated but also tells others it is almosst if not 100% worthless and SWIM also prefers popping his bars :)
Solinari
01-03-2008, 15:27
As far as i know, midazolam is the only water soluble benzodiazepine that exists (there may be one or two other obscure ones i don't know about), so i imagine sublingually would be similar to snorting.
Personally i don't think snorting would work very well for most benzodiazepines, but if some people think they get instant effects then who i am to say they don't. Never the less, i think the majority of the effects come from it eventually being swallowed and the faster onset could be a result of the pill being crushed up.
wearestardust
07-03-2008, 15:29
^ The above post mentions a barbituate, not a benzo. Correct SWIM if he is mistaken...
The 'above post' doesn't mention any barbiturates, only a benzo (MDA 1971 Class 'C' Schedule IV part 1, recently upgraded to class 'C' Schedule III) viz. flunitrazepam (Rohydorm, Rohypnol, Hypnodorm).
WAS
UpAllNiteOCXTC
05-05-2008, 06:03
nobody ever really answered the question, whats the best route to xanax consumption?
fiveleggedrat
31-05-2008, 02:11
Snorting works for my cat. Xanax/alprazolam, specifically.
Swim's cat finds oral consumption, first dissolved in water, is the most efficient method for both benzos and opioids. His personal opinion, though. Snorting does not last as long, as is not always as intense.
NEUROROGUE
23-07-2008, 17:51
Just Like SWIM's said..... BENZOS ARE NOT WATER SOLUBLE. IF you do not believe me just google it and look under " for health professionals". Just do your' research. But that is the whole point of this site to learn and share. Good question !