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Swim was wondering what countries allow you to purchase benzos from a pharmacy without a prescription. Drugs like diazepam, oxazepam, clonazepam, etc.
allyourbase
12-03-2007, 02:29
india, pakistan, afganistan..... pretty much no western nation.... even in messico you need a script.
Wyborowa
15-03-2007, 15:42
india, pakistan, afganistan.....
Is there anyway to CONFIRM this?!
(looks up traveling agencies):cool:
India and Thailand both definitely do (or have done within the last 2 years)
From a practical standpoint, SWIM wonders why it really matters... it's not hard finding a doctor who'll prescribe benzos, at least in the USA. In the end, it works out being much cheaper and easier getting a legal prescription.
P.S. if the question was asked for curiosity's sake or for research, it's cool... SWIM's reply was just from the view of someone who might feel they need/want to acquire some.
In SWIM's experience it's very easy to buy benzos in Peru, although they are actually prescription medicines most pharmacies don't really mind selling them to just about anybody.
In SWIM's experience it's very easy to buy benzos in Peru, although they are actually prescription medicines most pharmacies don't really mind selling them to just about anybody.
In Spain and Portugal i report the same. Except flunitrazepam you can get any benzo if asked nicely. ;) Alltought they are prescription only medicines...
Lehendakari
29-04-2007, 21:40
In Spain and Portugal i report the same. Except flunitrazepam you can get any benzo if asked nicely. ;) Alltought they are prescription only medicines...
In the part of Spain SWIM lives, benzodiazepines are only sold with prescription, he is never been able to get them by asking nicely, though things like tramadol, codeine, gabapentin are sold with no questioning.
Benzos are considered psychotropic drugs, just like methylphenidate, these medicines have a circle half white half black, whereas codeine and other opites are only meds to be sold with prescription although they are not considered psychotropic (white circle) so they have little control and pharmacists sell it right away.
Morphine and other stronger opiates are considered narcotics and have a very much controlled prescription process
all_time_high
12-06-2007, 20:46
How can i get them in India ... as in any specifc name to ask the pharmacist ?
Somewhere on the PANAMA Border.... swim went in with a local native and went to a public doctor office. The RX was written out at 500 Colones... which is 1 dollar USD.
no Opaites other than tramadol will they perscribe.
The Dr will ask for a name and pull out his pad.
Simple as that.
-SL1P606
wearestardust
09-08-2007, 06:52
Very quick reply - Costa Rica.
WAS
balkan countries. they won't give you tramadole without prescription, however you can buy a kilo of codeine and nobody asks why. same for benzos. SWIM bought 20 packages of 30x0.5 tabs of original xanax (together with apaurin, which is diazepam), and no questions either.
strange manners...
Very quick reply - Costa Rica.
WAS
Hmm ? confused.
Most countries I know of have been covered here. Benzos are only Schedule IV here in the USA so it doesn't surprise me you can get them in other countries without a prescription. As far as I know the largest exporters of black market benzodiazepines to the USA are countries in the southern Asia subcontinent. Countries mentioned already include India and Pakistan. I know there are also some South American countries that don't schedule them.
wearestardust
18-08-2007, 14:41
Hmm ? confused.
Why confused? SWIM has been told that benzos are OTC in Costa Rica (though he can only vouch for San Jose).
As I mentioned earlier, there are a lot of countries that sell it OTC. SWIM has ordered from suppliers in these countries with no problems. This, of course, isn't legal, but it just goes to show how easily available benzodiazepines are in the international market because of so many countries that don't see them as a threat to consumers.
oh ok yeah ... well they still need a rx but after you swim visits about 5. The last one will budge because they want a sale for the week. Then Swim asked if he moved away to another city and goes to the same pharmacy franchise, Is it possible for the pharmacy transfer the rx. The question to them was "can swim call them and just phone over the rx slip. They denied and told swim to return to their specific pharmacy.
so yeah they are pretty much over looked
blackirish
29-10-2007, 23:35
swim bought a pharmacy supply bottle of percodan in mex(manzanillo) for XXX us and took them home to canada. if he wasn't so good to his freinds he would have a new car. although it wasn't exactly otc it may as well have been. found a waiter at the resort whose father in-law was an md, told him that swim had a lot of pain and showed him an empty bottle for 30 tabs. XXX to the doc $ to fill it(seeing as the guy just took the bottle off the shelf and handed it to me. if you decide go ton pakistan or afghanistan(been there done that, shot at too much) it really doesn't matter what is legal because there are no laws that a couple hundred bucks can't fix.
tranquillike
30-10-2007, 21:52
was it neo-percodan? If so then it was actually propoxyphene. SWIM has never really heard of anyone getting oxycodone often in mexico... actually SWIM can't even remember reading about a single believable report of this.
wearestardust
31-10-2007, 03:23
I thought this thread was about OTC benzos, not opiates/opioids?
But you are quite right, neo-percodan contains no oxycodone at all.
wearestardust
31-10-2007, 03:32
How can i get them in India ... as in any specifc name to ask the pharmacist ?
Of course there is. The name of the drug you want. How much simpler could it be if you require diazepam or lorazepam just to ask for them? The names of drugs are international. It is only brand-names (usually in the USA) that differ. For instance, the drug clonazepam, which the entire world knows as brand-name Rivotril, is for some weird reason branded 'KLONOPIN' in the USA.
Just use the name of the actual drug, NOT a brand-name, and you should have no trouble making yourself understood.
FYI, brand-names of common benzos in India are: lorazepam - LARPOSE, alprazolam - ALPRAX, diazepam - VALIUM, and nitrazepam - NITRASUN. The best brand of clonazepam in India is Torrent's CLONOTRIL. DO NOT BUY any Indian made drug branded RIVOTRIL. You will be disappointed with the quality.
as it hasn't been mentioned yet most pharmacies will sell you just about anything in cambodia, no questions asked, this of course includes benzos. SWIM recently attempted to aquire some diphenhydramine (for sleep purposes), instead the chirpy chap behind the till insisted this was a poor choice and presented SWIM with a whole galaxy of different benzos! as a side note, this practice is fucking dangerous, i'm sure there's a lot of people who inadvertedly get themselves a filthy habit in such liberal markets where people often have no ideas of the potential dangers of constant unguided use: a lorazepam leaflet SWIM inspected suggested a 4mg starting dose, and recommended that benzos should not be used for more than 12 weeks consecutively. worryingly poor advice.
Taipei Taiwan.
spent a week there and it was all OTC Ativan 2mg yellow,Diazepam,alprazolam.
wearestardust
27-12-2007, 07:46
I have information that Serbia, Bosnia, Macedonia, Slovenia and Montenegro are relatively easy to buy a month's supply of benzos without a prescription. This comes from a friend recently returned from a Balkan tour. Hypnotics are more difficult than anxiolytics, and you will NOT be able to buy midazolam or flunitrazepm without script. Temazepam is practically unheard of in any of these countries. But if you are looking just for weakish minor tranquillisers such as diazepam, alprazolam, clonazepam or bromazepam there should be little problem.
wearestardust
27-12-2007, 07:50
I should have added that India and Pakistan are roughly similar in their policy; and only one benzo, nimetazepam, is subject to any controls in Malaysia.
Thailand swim got something not sure what but thinks it was xanax from a pharmacy for comming down of yaba. In most of Azia and South America someone wont have a problem, What doesn't go over the counter will go under the counter. Money counts in those places!
all_time_high
18-01-2008, 12:28
Its not so easy to obtain benzos OTC in India anymore. Metropolitin cities specially. But no matter where you are in India you can get them in a smaller city which is hardly 50 miles. And they are hell cheaper than in the Stataes or Europe.
SWIM lives in Pune, India and no pharmacy here gives them OTC. Ask them for any benzo and they'll say they don't have it.
SWIM personally gets his stash by luckily finding a pharmacist who gives him anything available in the pharmacy from opioids to benzos for double the price and a promise not to tell anyone. Even double the price is hell cheap though.
Its really difficult for SWIM to find indian trade name of the particular drug though. Google doesn't help. And the pharmacists here have no idea about the drug name. He manages somehow though. Any help with that? I hope that isn't against the forum rules. Finding indian trade name of a particular benzo/opioid i.e.
all time high: Might this...
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37196
help?
rocksmokinmachine
18-01-2008, 14:43
Thailand swim got something not sure what but thinks it was xanax from a pharmacy for comming down of yaba. In most of Azia and South America someone wont have a problem, What doesn't go over the counter will go under the counter. Money counts in those places!
Thailand is the place
all_time_high
22-01-2008, 12:29
all time high: Might this...
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37196
help?
Thanks Jatelka but I have already had a look through that thread. Its a great work by Psychonaut but the list is rather outdated when it comes to India.
The international companies are taking over and the brand names are changing from time to time. Like 'Trika' is the latest trade name for alprazolam here, not mentioned. Nitraven has changed to Nitrosun -5,10 (depending on mg) when it comes to Nitrazepam, etc. Diazepam still continues as valium, right at that. Lorazepam is ativan all right. SWIM is still not able to find flunitrazepam and clonazepam's trade names.
www.medindia.net (its not a forum just an information website so i guess nothing wrong with linking it) helps me quite a lot when finding indian trade names.
wearestardust
31-01-2008, 09:47
swim bought a pharmacy supply bottle of percodan in mex(manzanillo) for XXX us and took them home to canada. if he wasn't so good to his freinds he would have a new car. although it wasn't exactly otc it may as well have been. found a waiter at the resort whose father in-law was an md, told him that swim had a lot of pain and showed him an empty bottle for 30 tabs. XXX to the doc $ to fill it(seeing as the guy just took the bottle off the shelf and handed it to me. if you decide go ton pakistan or afghanistan(been there done that, shot at too much) it really doesn't matter what is legal because there are no laws that a couple hundred bucks can't fix.
That's odd. Percodan is a drug which is sold exclusively in the United States. Our friend may be right; Neo-Percodan is a compound consisting mainly of paracetamol, codeine, dextropropoxyphene and caffeine and has no oxycodone in it. Oxycodone would never be sold OTC in any country at all. Fact. If it WERE Percodan, the obverse would be imprinted simply 'EX', the code for oxycodone products sold in Mexico.