The Smoking Benzodiazepines Thread

[Tommy]

Yo, im quite new to these forums. Im here because im worried for my girlfriend.


One of her old friends has planned to go out with my girlfriend, they will be drinking quite a lot of alchohol. But also she said they are going to smoke some of her "medication" when i asked her what this was she said it was Valium and "some other stuff".


What can happen to her if she smokes Valium and other anti-anxiety drugs? Will the alchohol effect the smoking of these drugs?


Any advice will be awesome ThanxEdited by: OneDiaDem

[Pac Man]

ive smoked weed and crushed up painkillers to sprinkle on top of a bowl and smoke the weed with the pills(ive never smoked pills just by themselves, never knew you could). if shes doin this plus drinkin, then weed and alcohol intensify each others effects by a lot. and alcohol increases effects of benzoos, thats y they got warnings on labels for prescription drugs.

[hollywood]

I think it's a bad idea. These drugs are not made to be smoked. And like Packman said alcohol and benzoos don't mix..............................................

[sands of time]

Well I never heard of anyone smokin valium. It sounds like a really stupid thing to do though, not because it will kill her but because its full of chalks and bases and stuff which is just pointless to smoke. The effects should come on faster but thats the only plus. If they want to have alittle more fun with the stuff tell them to snort it instead. This is slightly less pointless.

[sengge]

it's a ridiculous idea to smoke valium, don't smoke pills, it doesn't do anything, just eat them.

[weedbarsnrolls]

smokin valium gotta b the dumbest idea ive ever heard crush that shit up and snort it and ull b str8

[granby140]

i tried it and the pill just melter

[Lump]

I never heard of either snorting or smoking v's--sometimes ya get lucky and find a hospital ampoule, but that's rare. Alcohol and valium is a bad, bad mix, specially for one so young. Good way to end up in a coma, especialy if the kids are messing with forces they don't understand. After two decades+ of party hearty, I wouldn't smoke em under any circumstances. Chew em up, yeah, but a nose is a terrible thing to waste, specially when there's plenty of fine stuff to minister to it.



I'd show the youngin some of the results of v&b abuse and mistakes--i.e. young kids in comas who's parents have to decide whether to pull the plug or not, ask her if she wants to put her 'rents in that situation. Girl should stick to getting silly at a kegger, mebe indulging in a spliff, if she wants to live to see some real action. I hope you can help her to make a good decision.

[manda]

Your concern for your girlfriend is really cool. Alcohol and pillsaren't a good mix. I've never heard of anyone smoking valium to get high.Your girlfriend is a lucky person that you care so much.

[fiets]

Don't know if smoking prescription valium will have some effect, but make your girlfriend clear that she should never combine benzo's with alcohol. These combinations can be deadly.

[P!MPJU!C3]

Im pretty sure that smokin valium wont even work. I think it has the same effect as cocaine when smoked...nothing. Maybe she would have to "base" her valium before she smokes it just like with cocaine 2 get crack. Tell her nothing of it Tommy. This Valium idea may have a fun placebo effect.

[redrum892]

P!MPJU!C3 is right on; if you smkoke valuim its just going to burn and be wasted. the proper way to smoke valium would be to freebase it like coke users do. the valium needs to get hot enough to vaporize without a flame actually touching the pill/powder.


That being said it really is a bad idea to mix benzos and alchohol especially for a young girl. I'm an old dirtbag thats abused my body in countless ways and even i wouldn't freebase valium and drink.


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[Gurnie]

My mate told me about thisguy who was smoking a load of valium, said 'c ya later guys', fell off his chair n fucked off to sleep from it. Dunno if it's true or not, if it is it doesn't sound like much fun.

[hippie_lain]

Ive acually seen people smoking liquid valium on weed but one of them got all twichy. I'd say to tell your girl to pass up on smoking anything that isn't usually smoked

[TheCecil]

whoa, that just sounds like it would be gross. smoking all the extra stuff in the pill? a 10mg valium weigs something like 5-6 grams, thats alot of extra crap in there besides the diezapam. Also i agree with the other guys in the fact that you cant vaporize the chemical in valium and absorb it in your lungs. i think you would be doing more damage to your respitory system than getting an valium buzz.


And i am also in agreement that benzos and alkeyhol is bad news, i did it once and ended up in the freakin hospital......


Be safe with your drugs http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif


peace


-Cecil

[QGdoxl]

I've smoked Clonazepam and it fucks you up. what you have to do
is crush the pill and spread it over a vowl of weed adn slowly heat it
till it melts into the weed and then smoke away.



I understand thatis how coke in HCI forma tis smoked, or just rolled
into a coco puff, heated and smoked also where the heat from the
smoke comming throught the joint it melts it more and combines
with the weed/tobac whatever.

[korky8097]

so is the virdict that diazepam the chem isnt able to absorb in the
lungs or that all the binders would ruin it? What about pure
dizepam in a vap? Never thought it would work, but something ive
pondered before.

[quinone]

I would not even want to fathom what it would be like trying to swallow
a 5 gram pill. Oh my god would that be painful (if even possible).



Anyways, to add something useful to the convo, smoking valium might get
her fucked up (or it might not), but snorting it would get her more
fucked up ... and without the utter destruction of her lungs that
smoking valium would cause

[said]

Smoked vals,roweys,xanax,serapax all worked 4 me in varying doses
crushed on a cone. They r all harsh as fuck but to get the good hit u
must hold it,catch 22.This was a phase i got over in about 18 months it
is not economical and only something to do when there is a surplus,even
then think thrice.http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif

[bcStoner420]

Smoking pill is a stupid thing to do, with all the fillers in them n all, im not very familiar with valium or any other benzo's really but many chemicals to be taken orally are in a salt form which will not work at all for smoking.


if your gonna use em at all, take them they way their made to be taken.


im pretty sure it wont work at all in salt base because of the higher tempurature required to burn up the chemical, though it may combined with weed or something, still not a good idea at all.Edited by: bcStoner420

[Fantasian]

Sorry if this is just a plain dumb question im new to the whole drug thing, can diazepam be smoked from the tablet if they a powered and put into a joint?

[snapper]

No. You would need to extract and vaporize, and I do not think it is
effective that way. Since diazepam is very insoluble in water, it would be
hard to extract properly from pill binders. Even then, I don't think
vaporization would work.

Snapper

[BorisB]

Don't smoke pills. That's really, really bad for you.

If you had pure crystallized Diazepam, I believe it would be quite possible to smoke with similar intoxicating effects.

I however, have done a small number of idiotic things and did try to smoke crumbled valiums. It seemed to give me a slight intoxication, but it was a waste, made a terrible smell, and made my lungs feel like shit.

[Fantasian]

Sorry while we're on the topic, is there any type of pill that is smokable?

Even narcs?

[kreden]

Sorry while we're on the topic, is there any type of pill that is smokable?

Even narcs?
i don't think so. pills are for oral use. there is no reason to smoke them.

[BorisB]

No, the things that hold any pill together are generally quite unhealthy to smoke.

[Fantasian]

thanks for the help guys

[Jeyez]

i tried smoking injectable valium that i soaked my weed in, it kinda worked but it was much more effective in the form it is intended for... if ur gonna try to smoke ur pill which is probably a waste, disolve it in a high proof alc, then put it on ur weed, or dip ur cigarette in it, let dry then smoke away

[788.4]

In addition to the active ingredient diazepam, each tablet contains the following inactive ingredients: anhydrous lactose, corn starch, pregelatinized starch and calcium stearate with the following dyes: 5-mg tablets contain FD&C Yellow No. 6 and D&C Yellow No. 10; 10-mg tablets contain FD&C Blue No. 1. Valium 2-mg tablets contain no dye.

Physical properties: crystaline plates (from acetone and petroleum ether) mp = 125-126oC.

Soluble in chloroform, dimethyl formamide, benzene, acetone and alcohol. Slightly soluble in water

Source: http://www.chem.ucalgary.ca/courses/351/Carey/Ch22/ch22-0-1.html

editor's note: Diazepam is soluble indeed, but only very slightly, about 1000mg/350ml water

Source: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=8077

Properties of calcium stearate:

Solubility: Insoluble in water, alcohol, ether; soluble in mineral oils, hot pyridine.

Source: http://bulkpharm.mallinckrodt.com/_attachments/msds/CASTA.htm


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I have never smoked Valium and I have never tried to purify it. But this is what I would do (assuming I only have access to coffee filters, a small pyrex dish or petri dish, a square razor from the hardware store, and Everclear Alcohol).

It's probably best to do this with Valium 2-mg tablets because they contain no dye. All the generics shown in the link above are white as well so I assume they contain no dye.

This method should be able to filter out D&C dies, but FD&C dies will get through. (It's possible to filter them out but most people do not have access to those solvents).

If you have a generic and don't know what kind of dye is in it call the pharmacy and ask. Say you really try to avoid certain types of FD&C dies because you heard they were bad for your brain or something like that. If the pharmacy dosn't know they should be able to give you contact information for the manufacturer (they usually have a toll free number).

If the pill only has D&C dyes you should be able to filter those out with this method. If you pill contains FD&C dyes then you are going to have to deal with them being in the final product.

I don't know about the health consequences of smoking FD&C dyes, but chances are you will be okay as long as you do not make a habit out of smoking crudely filtered Valium.

Basically, if you have a choice of Valiums available go for the ones with no dye (2mg) or ones with D&C dyes.

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Now to the procedure itself:

1. Remove the starch and lactose pill coating. Do this by sucking on the pill until the coating is dissolved. You will know it is dissolve when you get the bitter taste of diazepam in your mouth. I've never sucked on a Valium so I don't know how fast this will happen, but chances are it will only tack a few seconds.
2. Spit out the Valium and let it dry.
3. Crush the Valium to a fine powder. Go over with it with a razor.
4. In a cup pour a small ammount of room temperature Everclear or another high proof alcohol (180+). 3 mL of Everclear per tablet should be enough. Maybe a little less should be used with the 2mg tablets and maybe a little more should be used with the 10mg tablets.
5. Slowly add and stir in the powder. Most of the substacnes in the pill will not dissolve or barely dissolve and will fall to the bottom of the mixture. The diazepam (active ingredient of Valium) will dissolve.
6. Prepare a coffee filter by wetting it with Everclear. (You have to work fast because the coffee filter will dry very quickly).
7. Drain the solution containing Everclear and the crushed Valium through the coffee filter soaked in Everclear into a small pyrex dish or into petri dishes. Once all the liquid is poured out push the sludge again the coffee filter with a spoon or something. Try to get every last drop out of it.
8. Allow the Everclear to evaporte. Do not use a lamp to speed this up. Light and heat could possibly damage the diazepam.
9. The dried substance contains diazepam in a significantly purer form that Vicodin tablets do. It should be crystalized but might not be (I'm not sure how pure the yeild is).
10. Crush the crystaline substance up and store it somehow for later use.
11. It's important that the diazepam stay in a dark and dry place. Diazepam is pretty stable, but it probably wouldn't be a good idea to leave it in a very humid place under bright lights.

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This procedure should have removed all of the calcium stearate from the Valium. Most of the lactose should have been removed when the coating was removed by sucking on it. Starches are soluble in water and because Everclear is only 95% pure alcohol some of them probably got through. However most of them should have been filtered out. The diazepam should be much purer than it was in the pill.

If you started out with 100mg of Valium before you probably should have around (very rough estimate) 85mg of diazepam now. Keep in mind that smoking diazepam will be much stronger than swallowing it.

A recreational dose might be between 1/16 - 1/8 per person smoking the joint of the substance after the extraction (assuming 100mg was used). This is roughly equal to 5mg - 10mg of diazepam but the ammount of substance will weigh more than that depending on how pure the yeild is.

WARNING: I have zero experience with actual extraction techniques.

[jduba]

hahaha benzos and alch are great!!! just dont over do it... i know you can smoke xanax rolled in a blunt but effects much strong for a shorter time and if you are not exp with benzos you will have no memory of what happens after you smoke go slow and be careful. may be a good idea to have a trip sitter

[pharmapsyche]

Jduba, do you know of someone who has actually smoked xanax? This is something SWIM has been searching around for information about. SWIM doesn't know if it would actually work or not and doesn't know if it's worth even trying, but from what you posted, it sounds like it is.

[jduba]

hahaha not me : ) just swim

[hh339]

flunitrazepam can be smoked, wouldn´t recommend it though..very short high.

[csharpprogrammer]

Could someone please explain what happens when one smokes a benzodiazepine? When it is burned does it turn into a vapor and get absorbed into the lungs?

[Creeping Death]

Swim has only 2 mg of stesolid (diazepam) and wants to make it count. SWIM heard a story once of a monkey smoking rohypnol in a joint and getting really mashed up. Monkey said it was proper.

Was he bullshitting? Can you roll up some pills in a J and smoke them?

edit: Also if this doesn't work, is it efficient to dissolve the pill in alcohol and then drink it?

[someone111]

swim is looking to smoke some klonopins.... what are some methods of doing this and how much should be smoked in a hit

[Kernacktur]

SWIM has smoked quite a few different pills, except for valium. SWIM doesn't smoke them straight but laces weed with them. Some pills work, some don't. One of the best from SWIM's experience are k-pins. Last time he did it he "time traveled" through the night and didn't remember much the next day. SWIM's aware of all the filler, which is why ritalin is a no-no(hcl), but really if anyone cared that much about the harmful aspects of drugs they probably wouldn't do them in the first place.

Smoking kolonopins is pretty popular in SWIM's area. He was surprised at how few threads even mentioned it. SWIM first heard about it about 3 years ago. One of his friends had tried it. SWIM didn't try it himself until last year. Some of his friends did it occasionally, SWIM just never really looked into or tried to get kolonopins at the time. Last year one of his friends came across an amazing deal from a former classmate that was too good to pass up. They each had 5 .5 mg k-pins and 1 valium and xanax football each. The valium and xanax were snorted along without about half the kolonopins. SWIM wishes he'd of known it didn't make a difference, for the time it was they were the most painful pills he had ever sniffed. SWIM and his friend were fairly familiar with the aspects of what to do, neither of them had ever done it but they both had heard of if from several different friends. They started out breaking a kolonopin in quarters and just tossing them in with the weed. They did this twice before breaking it up into smaller pebbles and dust which were used in the 3rd and forth bowls. For the last bowl they cut the pill in quarters again.

Not sure why it's so wide-known and popular around here though. It's not a "scene" drug or anything done by a specific group or people. IE very rich, lower class, "social" users, stoners or anything like that. Any other SWIMers ever smoked kolonopins or live somewhere else it's common?

[Solinari]

Hello, this is my first post, so hello to you all.

Smoking benzo's is nothing new, before tamazepam came in tablet form, they used to come in liquid filled capsules (i think they come in powdered filled capsules now as well), anyway, when they came in this liquid form a "jelly joint" would be smoked with weed or even just with tobacco.

A friend of mine did this only once, apparently it tasted and smelled almost like a hospital, but it wasn't unpleasant and definitely had effects. I have also heard of people smoking valium in tablet form, but i really don't know if the actual diazepam is destroyed by the heat or if it is vaporises and is then absorbed by the lungs.

If it does vaporise, then i imagine the lungs will absorb it.

As for snorting, this does work, although it's not a good idea. Even although benzodiazepines have very low water solubility, it will still be absorbed by the mucus membrane in to the blood stream. The thing is, tablets are full of nasty fillers, chalk and even wax, and regular snorting would probably end up damaging your nose in one way or another. Besides, one crushed tablet is quite a lot to snort, so if one would want to use them recreationally, one would have to snort several, Very nasty, probably very sore, and not worth the hassle. Most of it will probably end up being swallowed and ingested anyway.

[crackcityrocker]

taken off wikipedia:

Diazepam is supplied in the following forms:

For oral administration:
Tablets - 2mg, 5mg, 10mg[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valium#_note-Drugs.com). Generic versions available.
Capsules, time-release - 15mg (marketed by Roche as Valrelease®)[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valium#_note-ElephantCare)
Liquid solution - 1mg/ml in 500ml containers and unit-dose (5mg & 10mg); 5mg/ml in 30 ml dropper bottle (marketed by Roxane as Diazepam Intensol®)[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valium#_note-ElephantCare)
For parenteral administration:
Solution for IV/IM injection - 5mg/ml. 2ml ampoules and syringes; 1ml, 2ml, 10ml vials; 2 ml Tel-E-Ject; also contains 40% propylene glycol, 10% ethyl alcohol, 5% sodium benzoate and benzoic acid as buffers, and 1.5% benzyl alcohol as a preservative.[29] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valium#_note-RXL.Description)[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valium#_note-ElephantCare)Notice : IM injection is largely less effective as the drug is injected into a tetanic muscle with compressed muscular veins . This does not allow the drug to reach the circulation rapidly.

For rectal administration:
Solution[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valium#_note-Inchem)
Suppositories - 5mg and 10mg[30] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valium#_note-Suppositories)[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valium#_note-Inchem)
Rectal tubes
For inhalation administration:This method uses heating diazepam to form a vapor later producing an aerosol. This allows the drug to be passed through an inhalation route during an inhalation therapy. Provided in doses 2mg-20mg either in a single inhalation or multiple small inhalations [31] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valium#_note-12)not sure what you would have to do for it to be effective, but it can obviously be done.

[wearestardust]

Never heard of anyone smoking benzos; and can't really see the point. Bromazepam can give you the most euphoric calmness in 10 mins flat just by sticking it under your tongue (fastest-acting and most enjoyable benzo I ever had).
People DO smoke OxyContin ona regular basis and the reports SWIWAS has heard are nearly all positive. So, he triedit, and it does indeed work just fine. Better, I would say, than snorting it. But benzos? Nah... not a good idea methinks.

[BearClaw]

Catchy, smoking benzo's on a fag, a cigarette that is...

Now Swim has smoked practically every type of benzodiazepine on a cigarette ... from Alprazolam to Zolpidem [even though technically not a benzo]... but anywhos,

Swim is well informed of their effects, via smoked... STRONG, VERY STRONG that is. Swim wonders besides all the awesome carcinogens in cigarettes is there something to be more weary of?

Swim continues this from time to time and finds it a bit harsh on the lungs, but enjoys the effects of the benzo's in their "freebased" form.


Cautions or experiences would be a nice touch to this thread...

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Seems pointless.

[trptamene]

Swim continues this from time to time and finds it a bit harsh on the lungs, but enjoys the effects of the benzo's in their "freebased" form.



By freebase is one saying they smoke a cooked up mixture of some crushed up tab, baking soda, and water?

Someone correct me if I am wrong but pharmaceutical benzo's don't come as the salt.

[Alicia]

agreeing with orchid, benzo's in her opinion or whats she gathered is pointless to smoke not to mention all the smoke from the pill binders going and sticking to lung tissue. Maybe jus a placebo high from nicotines making u think its doing something. specially if u have taken one orally beforehand possibly?

But if it did work smoking possibly more risk of od due to said benzo getting into system more quickly. she has never known anyone to smoke benzos for an effect that works.

[trptamene]

...let's hope most ppl are smart enough not to smoke bindering and other agents.

What about the pure compounds? It seems a handful of pure pharma benzos are available so this is a legitimate question I believe. Perhaps this question would belong in a more appropriate thread tho...

[BearClaw]

Swim is aware of the binders and such, but can assure swiy of the fact that they have a real effect, not at all placebo.

Here is Swim's Method of Preparation:
(if it where to even be called that)

- Grind pill into a fine powder, spread powder out over hard surface.
- Take cigarette and moisten with saliva, from one point to the other.
- Roll and collect fine powder upon cigarette.
- Kill your lungs, from what Alicia has informed swim.


This does work, but swim has a theory of how...

As the cigarette burns, it does not completely destroy the benzo. Swim thinks that as the cig persists to burn, this heats the benzo at just the right temperature to make them active...

this might be completely wrong, but its swims theory and has the mind stories to prove it... Swim's just saying it does have an interesting effect (along with a few of swim's friends).


BTW: How would my pet cactus go about removing fillers, binders, in-actives, ect. from a benzo?

thanks in advance-
BeArclaw

[Alicia]

As the cigarette burns, it does not completely destroy the benzo. Swim thinks that as the cig persists to burn, this heats the benzo at just the right temperature to make them active...




well,one would do an extract to remove said benzo from pill into a pure form and vaporise it rather then use a yucky cigarette as the heat source.

it could be as swiy mentions that the active effects of this benzo do vaporise which cause an effect.

possibly be best in the light bulb vaporise or heated under glass. would be more healthier.

[BearClaw]

extract as in?

thanks

[rustupid]

i know people who have smoked them for years. you just crush them up and springle them into a joint or even just tobacco on its own. gives u a nice chilled out joint

[sweetsugar]

Ive never heard of anyone smoking valiume, snorting yes - but thats not a really good idea. Consuming valiume orally and smoking a hefty amout of weed swim says is real nice. Also make sex drive hit the roof (for swim anyway) ~ perhaps try it togther?

What is Bromazepam? and what is it perscribed for??

[rustupid]

i know people who have smoked them for years. you just crush them up and springle them into a joint or even just tobacco on its own. gives u a nice chilled out joint
im talking about blue vallies

[darkbreed]

Regarding smoking pills, yes it can be done, but the best and most effective would be to extract the active chemical from the pills and purify it so you get rid of all the other crap. SWIM done that couple times. Some benzos are more soluble in water than others, specifally with a little citric acid or so to lower the ph, while others are practically insoluble in water and need other procedures.

In any caes, SWIM been lucky enough to have his hands on bags with 50 grams of pure benzos, such as diazepam, alprazolam and flunitrazepam.

SWIM says the most wonderful smoke he ever had was some hits of pure flunitrazepam - better than anything else, coke, pot, opium, meth, heroin, what you can think of, it was the bomb. Extremely addictive though, and it made SWIM smoke rather much and for most of the day.

Pure diazepam is also rather pleasent to smoke according to SWIM.

[Laudaphun]

Moved to another thread... The marmoset just pointed out that EDIT: this is a "smoking" benzos thread which was not the case.

[fiveleggedrat]

Swim has looked for info regarding benzos + lightbulb vaporizer.

Swim has been experimenting with his bulb vape often lately, and wants to test this. He will take 1mg lorazepam pills, grind, and put in the vape. He will post results tomorrow.

[wearestardust]

Sorry while we're on the topic, is there any type of pill that is smokable?

Even narcs?

Whaddya mean, 'even'?
It is very common for OxyContin to be put on the foil and smoked. Obviously you have to suck off the coating first and dry the thing, half it, and use as if you were smoking a bit of skag on foil.
And yes, it DOES work; when SWIWAS was habited up to the eyeballs and myosic pupils with the powder, smoking a 40mg tab would at the very least take away the rattles on a rough morning.
Just be careful not to apply too much flame - gently brush down and it will run after a fashion. Each 40mg will provide only two average lines, but the amount of fumes you'll get with the correct amount of heat will do the trick.
The residue on the tooter is quite thick and a lot more than you'd expect. This is a lot stronger than the original pill on the foil; smoke your tooter carefully - the good stuff is quite light coloured and runs very fast indeed. I advise making a 'trench' in the foil tooter so that you don't miss the good stuff.
WAStardust

[fiveleggedrat]

Smoking 1mg lorazepam in a lightbulb vape gave plastic/cotton candy tasting smoke with, at most, minimal effects.

Swim would like to try with stronger/larger amounts of benzos.

[yosmokinman]

swim tried this with 15mg oxazepam (eh..), Swim found a very nice "cotton candy" tast that swiy may have mentiond. My cat would also like to try more/stronger benzos...

[allyourbase]

most benzodiazapine molecules contain halogens.

[tryptamaster]

If anyone is still on this thread and reads this dont smoke valium period.

[fiveleggedrat]

Swim got hold of some alprazolam 2mg bars and will smoke a few sometime to see what he gets out of them. High hopes due to alprazolam's overall potency on Swim as opposed to the lorazepam he smoked last time.

[fiveleggedrat]

most benzodiazapine molecules contain halogens.

Therefore, It would be unhealthy to smoke them, correct?

[shooter421]

there is a way : crush the pill. spoon. water . heat until it crusts on the spoon much like rock. then stem chore drop light high.

[Jatelka]

^^^ Is it me: Or does this make no sense? Can someone translate please?

[shooter421]

alright dammit. grab a spoon crush the fucking pill put it on the spoon add water like you are going to shoot it. but instead cook it it until it is crusted or hard on the spoon then grab a knife and scrape. the put it in a stem. then smoke it. so yes its possible to concentrate and smoke benzos

[xxxSuSHixxx]

Swipf says "This is another attempt at making a useful post for swipf, as stated in another post swipf wrote, some klonopin powder was used in a cigarette, it may have been placibo, but swipf would think the burning rate would just make it a waste, but he thinks he felt something off of it almost instantley, although that could have been the 4mg rectal admin of klonopin also, swipf has heard of people smoking oxycontin, not sure if it works but, people smoke opium so maybe its posible for SOME pills and not others, i mean technicly if swipf had a pill made from methanphetamine ((which they make)), its probably smokable. but for most pills, probably pointless. Swipf has also heard of smoking morphine, however it could have been a liquid, i wish i had more info on that one, but still i think there is some potential to smoking SOME pills, is it worth it? thats probably for whoever's doing it to judge, also!!! everyone's heard of ritalin crack, thats a pill, its just modified a bit...so its like.... how deep do we really want to get into this"

[highguy]

lmao swim used to try to smoke pills a while back. they just melt and taste like crap.not benzos though, opoids and adderall.
if anything does happen the effect should wear off faster than they can hit it,the smoke from what swim remembers smoking was very thin and harsh.