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I am currently without any benzos or valium and I was wondering if there are any over the counter drugs or anything else that would help calm me down and lessen anxiety.
My heart is racing and I can't calm down. Please, any advice will be helpful. Do you think smoking weed will help?
Well weed will most probably calm you down but it can cause your heart to race even more.
if you had the benzos to treat some kind of anxiety then I think weed might be a bit risky. Unless your a regular weed smoker and know how you react to it
searcher
13-08-2004, 21:00
Drink a beer.
Psilocybe S.
14-08-2004, 21:18
The only substitute would be alcohol, but that too can cause ur heart to race..
I dunno. Go to a doctor and tell him you're suffering from anexity, and he'll perscribe some ativan for you. Ativanis great. lol
OneDiaDem
15-08-2004, 06:48
Go to a health food store and buy valarian root. It is the natural form of valium. They have tictures, and pills. The tinctur works fast, but smells like foot and ass. Next best thing to parm's.
Cleverdemise
07-05-2005, 03:38
Are there any other drugs and or substances that can give you a benzo like effect? Like, besides xanax, valium, kolonopin, and that tempa-something? I suffer from anxiety and panic attacks, and I'm given 1.5mg of xanax daily. I'd like to save them up, but unfortuantely, i actually need them. Is there anything i can do to get the sedation/tranquilizing effect like benzos? I heard drinking beer will do that, but i'm not sure. I've also heard you can take large (not TOO large) dosages of kava kava, or valerian root to get something like that. I just wanna save up mydamn zanis lol.
Benzhead
08-05-2005, 15:24
I think you're seaching for 'Temazepam.'
Well, it's been my experience that most any CNS depressant will give you some of the effects of benzos.
I used to drink immense qualities of alcohol on a sporadic basis(binge drinking), and found that hangovers gave me a huge case of rebound anxiety. Of course, your mileage may vary.
Kava and valerian had no effect on me in what I would consider sane dosage levels. Many grams per dose, from the best vendors and I didn't even get a placebo effect. Again, one, or both of these plants may offer you some relief. For me, they did nothing.
There are some anti-depressants that have sedating qualities. But these can be so sedating that you'll want to nap as soon as they take effect. Mirtazapine(Remeron) is one such newer AD. Ifind thatif I take a45mg capsule, and break it half, I can get asedation that cuts my anxiety with minimal drowsiness. If I take my full 45mg dose, I'll soon want a quiet place to sleep.
I'd steer clear of Trazodone(Desyrel), as you might get a next day drug hangover thatcan leave you groggy for hours. Ireally loathed it.
Wrapping this up, I think that you'll need to get the opinions of others, and then do some safe experimenting..butremember, benzos are physically addicting, and going without your usual dosage for too long a period may result in some really unpleasant withdrawal symptoms.
Be Safe!
T
BrandonAA
19-05-2005, 14:28
dude, save yours up (two days worth would be 3mg,) and eat them all at once and make sure you don't eat an excessive amount of food that day, you want to have a nearly clear stomach. oncew you've done that drink some brews, or if you don;'t lkike beer make some rum and cokes. it is optimal to drink on 3mg, it will fuck you up. then blaze a little bit of trees on top of all that.
benzo, alcohol and cannabis - the whip
morkstanley
02-06-2005, 20:27
why smoke weed then, with all the xanax you'll end up smokin all your weed. when i'm on bars i always smoke alot cuz it takes more to get high on bars.
Though they don't get you high and aren't exactly sedating,
beta-blockers can be helpful during a panic attack for some
people. They tend to treat the physical responses to panic more
than mental anxiety, but sometimes just feeling more comfortable
physically can really take the edge off enough to get you grounded
again. They're prescription, but due to the fact that they're not
recreational, they're easy enough to get...
And kava can be quite effective, even intoxicating. The big
problem is that you have to do everything just right in order to have
it work. Also, most of what you'll find for sale will have such a
low kavalactone (active chemical) content that it's not even worth
trying. The process to make tea can be tedious and messy, so it's
really a shame that there aren't more quality supplements. The
only decent brand I've found is made by Gaia herbs. (I hope that
saying the brand name of an ENTIRELY legal product is alright...
I mean, this stuff isn't even questionable like RCs.) The
downside is that you still have to take a lot (about 15-20 caps is a
strong yet pleasant dose for me) and as such it is quite expensive
dose-per-dose (about $20 for a bottle of 60 caps).
Even with this supplement, there are things you have to do to make sure
it works. The MOST important is to take them on an entirely empty
stomach, and not to eat for at least 45 - 60 minutes after. If
you don't, you MIGHT feel slight effects, but it will surely be
disappointing and a huge waste of money. Also, they are gooey
extracts in capsules, and I find that I get a much quicker, more
complete absorption if I put them in my mouth and bite down to break
the capsule, then swallow it all. They taste absolutely vile if
you do this, and the brown gunk inside (the goodies) will stick to your
teeth and numb up your mouth. To combat this, what I do is put a
small amount of water in my mouth, put 6 caps in, chew/bite/break them,
swallow, and take more water in my mouth, never letting it get
empty. If you do this, you won't taste the kava and can pretty
much wash it out of your mouth before you taste it.
Despite the very mixed review on kava, this is a very potent way to do
it and if done properly you WILL feel it quite strongly. It can
make you a bit clumsy and dizzy, so don't drive or anything.
Also, kava may be bad for you liver, so don't do this all the time.
After 3 years on benzos, kava is the only thing that can help me quell
my anxiety if I'm out of Xanax. (Well, opiates and alcohol do
that as well, but they're not benzo-like or even slightly adviseable if
you want to be in public.)