View Full Version : Codeine Hemihydrate useful for CWE?
primal440
09-07-2006, 00:21
Hello, I have a couple of questions:
Where SWIM is, there's only one brand of pills containing codeine, in hemihydrate form, each pill has 500 mg paracetamol (tylenol) and 60 mg codeine. As most texts regarding Cold Water Extraction refer to codeine sulfate, would it make a differnece if its in Hemihydrate form? Should the technique work the same way?
And also, does tolerance to codeine develops so quickly that after taking about 300 mg one night, the next night SWIM wont reach the same plateau if it takes the same dose??
Thanks in advance, bye.
jesusfreak666er
09-07-2006, 00:32
swim isnt sure about himihydrate, but he cant imagine that after 1 night swiy will develop tolerance.
Fantasian
09-07-2006, 17:18
And also, does tolerance to codeine develops so quickly that after taking about 300 mg one night, the next night SWIM wont reach the same plateau if it takes the same dose??
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Tolerance to all opiate is fairly rapid, the same plateau will not be reached on consectutive nights with a 300mg dose. A more accurate doses for the second night would be 400-450mg.
However be careful about using the weaker opiates like this, rather than increasing your amount of codeine it might be wiser and better on your liver to use a stronger opiate.
Does it not say anything but Codeine Hemihydrate on the label? Like Codeine Phosphate Hemihydrate, Codeine Sulfate Hemihydrate etc. Hemihydrate is not the salt form of this Codeine, it just means that there are H2O molecules present in there. Codeine Phosphate Hemihydrate = C18H24NO7P * 0,5 H2O
primal440
10-07-2006, 01:20
Yeah it says Codeine Phosphate Hemihydrate, so I guess the CWE is gonna work for SWIM, wont it?
To those who know, how many days hours should one have to wait to get full effects without damage from tolerance?
and to Fantasian, man if I could I'd switch to a stronger one but for the time I'm afraid im stuck with this shit.
primal440
10-07-2006, 01:25
there's another syrup that contains 60 mg Codeine, 60 mg EthylMorphine, and 6 mg of Homatropine Methylbromure in a total of 120 ml of syrup. Homatropine seems a bit sketchy, and SWIM dont get nothing from 60 mg Codeine, would the 120 ml be enough anyway for SWIM to have a good opiate time with the presence of 60 mg EthylMorphine?
Forthesevenlakes
10-07-2006, 01:52
if the dosage of ethylmorphine is anything like the dose for regular morphine, swiy should start with half of that amount (60 mL) or less, because 60 mg of morphine plus extra codeine is a lot for someone unfamiliar with opiates to handle.
primal440
10-07-2006, 03:33
im not opiate naive but i dont indulge myself a lot on them, except for tramadol which i wouldnt count anyway. ill take your suggestion as i havent found anymore info on the ethylmorphine.
all_time_high
10-09-2007, 09:19
[quote=primal440)
im not opiate naive but i dont indulge myself a lot on them, except for tramadol which i wouldnt count anyway. ill take your suggestion as i havent found anymore info on the ethylmorphine.[/quote]
Sorry for bumping an old topic, but SWIA recently came across some pills which contain 11mg of ehtylmorphine HCL and he plans to try it out.
I would like to know SWIprimal440's feedback about ethylmorphine if he did try that syrup. I couldn't find anything about ethylmorphine on the internet either.
Ethylmorphine is even weaker than codeine for SWIE.
all_time_high
10-09-2007, 12:10
Ethylmorphine is even weaker than codeine for SWIE.
So, what amount would be enough for SWIA to ingest to get real high without causing him any fatal injury. (He doesn't care about small side effects like nausea, headache, etc.)
Just to let you know, the exact composition of tablet found by SWIA is - Ethylmorphine HCl (11mg) and Dicyclomine HCl (20mg).
Is there any other way SWIA should take it than direct oral ingestion with a gulp of water that would make it more effective?
Dicyclomine is an anticholinergic and would make that medication unsuitable for recreational use.
Wikipedia seems do disagree:
Dosage
Ethylmorphine is 'less potent than morphine' but more potent than codeine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codeine)' by a small percentage. Medical oral dosages vary from 5 to 30, even 50 mg.
all_time_high
10-09-2007, 15:23
Wikipedia seems do disagree:
Dosage
Ethylmorphine is 'less potent than morphine' but more potent than codeine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codeine)' by a small percentage. Medical oral dosages vary from 5 to 30, even 50 mg.
Lol, I came to this thread to post the same.
Dicyclomine is an anticholinergic and would make that medication unsuitable for recreational use.
Wikipedia says that anticholinergic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anticholinergic#Effects)s have an abuse potential on their own. Is it that opoids and anticholinergics cancel each other?