generic adderall- how to inject

[glitterfly]

ok SWIM needs to know how to inject generic adderall. people on here have said SWIM has to separate the sugars and things to leave the pure amphetamines. the thing is, swim has limited supplies, AND does not know how to begin the purification process. swim doesn't understand why mixing with water and filtering will not work. she has tried and even injected the fitered stuff but felt nothing and a lot of orange crap stuck to the back of the cotton! :mad: yall have said it is water soluble, so why won't this work. heating just turns it into a bunch of goo also. SWIM has a lot of experience w/ritaliln and other drugs and is completely befuddled by this one.

[Sitbcknchill]

You need to first figure out what your pills consist of and then look up each of those compounds and note there properties such as the solubilities of each...then you can figure out how to get the salts out of your pills....do your homework....

[old hippie 56]

Wouldn't it be easier just to go out and buy some crank? Going thru alot of trouble just to stick a needle in your arm.

[randomJACKASS]

SWIM would also like to try this, sometimes SWIM cannot get the illicit kind, but the Adderall is always available. SWIM only knows about oh.... "a friend of a friend" can get that, SWIM isn't a big user, SWIM just tried meth IV one time and liked it, yet still prefers to smoke. Smoking addreally looks like WAY more trouble than it's worth, so SWIM is curious......SWIM says: PILLS ARE SO BORING!!!!

[glitterfly]

yeah swim has had the run around and back with IV meth with MANY negative consequences (i'm begging swiy- don't get started into that shit) and is trying to stay away from that for the most part. ritalin is easy to inject, but swim stupidely switched her prescription to adderall as she was reminiscent of the good ol days snorting it. but now she's getting frustrated with this adderall b/c she hates putting that orange crap up her nose and normal routes of administration just don't seem to do it for her. lol she guesses it's the user in her that's just searching for a user way to do it!!!! swim is currently researching the subject and also waiting for feedback from various sources. maybe she'll just go back to ritalin (ick), but will probably wait it out. swim KNOWS its possible and thinks it will be worth it once it can be done safely and successfully :D

[randomJACKASS]

Thankfully also SWIM has a ready supply of clean works that SWIM will readily share with any friend in need. Truly SWIM hates to see people deep into the needle but SWIM's own life is fuilled with medically necessary injections anyway, so it's not such a reach for SWIM.

Another thing in SWIM's mind is, where the hell are all the other folks who have done this? I KNOW you are out there?!??

SWIM got tired of waiting and SWIM took 2cc of HOT tap water and combined it throroghly to an orange goopey paste. The paste then went onto a coffee filter for filtering. The results SEEM encoraging but being a novice shooter SWIM fucked it up and maybe a vein too! GASP! SWiM drew blood but couldn't get the plnger down without the heedle slipping out (90 units makes it hard to deal with one handed). SWIM wasted the fluid in frustration but SWIM had tasted both the gummy orange leftovers (sweet like sugars) and the orange liquid he almost injected, subtly sweet and noticably bitter (a lot of Amphetamine would have made the trip inside SWIM's vein). The thing is the proportions were to use as little water as possible. SWIM used 2cc of water on 5 20mg tabs that were pre powdered, and drew up 90 units, so if SWIM had to guess the 90 units probably contained between 40 and 60mg of real speed?!? Wish SWIM hadn't fucked it up. SWIM neeeds his friends help with this.

[blusilf]

SWIM has shot IR addies using a gnarly method she'd thought of when trying to shoot some worthless, overpriced blow.

SWIM got a nice little rush off one 20 mg IR in a piddly 1cc insulin syringe. She can't wait to try it with 40 mg and a big rig.

Here goes:

1) crush pill
2) load the powder directly into the syringe
3) you know the deal, insert plunger, carefully make sure the powder's all down at the bottom so you can push out the air...
4) draw hot water into your syringe and shake it up a bit
5)bang bang bang

The needle had about 30-40 cc's of orange gunk left in it (talc and what not...) At any rate, SWIM just drew up some more water, shook it up with the gunk, and shotter up again. no rush the second time around, but SWIM likes to think it helped.

Soo....Yeah, "you shouldn't do that" "that's bad for you in some vague way" "what about binders! and fillers!?!?!?"

Whelp, SWIM is still alive and she got a killer rush out of it, plus a long lasting high.

Next time, however, SWIM will attempt the "giant syringe method". That is, repeat a modifification of steps 1-5 ad nauseum, but instead of slamming the gunk, SWIM will squirt the water into a spoon for uptake with another, likely larger, syringe w/filter, and re-filter a few times before she bangs again.

As you can see , the "giant syringe method", is pretty much a water extraction. SWIM is horrible with coffee filters and funnels and owns nary a pipette nor decent eyedropper. This method is a nice water wash. No mess, not too much water. Lots of control and a clean containment of both water and source material (pill mass) for further manipulation/consumption/disposal.

In light of the pervasive fear of wastefulness with IV adderall, one could probably save their gunk (from needle #1...not the needle SWIY put in his or her arm, that one should not have gunk, but will have blood.) for whatever it's worth, dry it out, and eat a bunch. One's level of iintoxication via such materials should correlate with the level of "lost" amphetamine, as nothing truly goes to waste here and anything SWIY didn't into a vein get is chillin' with the remainder of the pill mass.

About those fillers, talc and what not...SWIY would be wise to consult the appropriate manufacturer's website/literature/hotline/class action defense lawyers about the specific inerts SWIY's pills, then needle, then perhaps (or not) veins, will be filled up with.

SWIM's own method of researching ths involves separately googling all ingredients, both active and intert, with the word "soluble"

Now SWIY can independently discern just what what SWIY's putting in his/her veins and can decide whether or not he/she really cares anyways.

Soooo....
On to shooting XR

SWIM followed this procedure:

1) cumpt out the little beads crush with mortar and pestle like objects (NOT a DL or credit card. That would be sad, because it doesn't work)
2) transfer to spoon
3) add warm water
4) filter/draw, bang bang bang

What SWIM got was a milky white solution (or nefarious mixture?) and a moderately stronger rush (this was a 20mg XR) than with the IR. SWIM doesn't really wanna do it again, though because she's convinced the plastic (?) polymer (?) Microtrol bead coating and talc were so finely ground (necessarily) as to swim right up through the filter and infiltrate SWIM's trusty rig (and thus her veins) whilst mixed in, though not solute with, the desired solution for injection.

SWIM is trying not to think about where those tiny plastic dots are going on the journey through her cariovascular system and internal organs, and doesn't feel like thinking about a viable means to IV XR's at present, but overall SWIM's personal experience with IVing both Adderall IR and XR was a nice rush or so, fairly long lasting (hours), surprisingly pleasurableand somewhat stronger than expected.

SWIM's practice and experience frankly fly in the faces of those naysayers who wouldst simply declare "Uh. You can't do that, stupid."

[Ranke]

SWIM has shot IR addies using a gnarly method she'd thought of when trying to shoot some worthless, overpriced blow.

SWIM got a nice little rush off one 20 mg IR in a piddly 1cc insulin syringe. She can't wait to try it with 40 mg and a big rig.

Here goes:

1) crush pill
2) load the powder directly into the syringe
3) you know the deal, insert plunger, carefully make sure the powder's all down at the bottom so you can push out the air...
4) draw hot water into your syringe and shake it up a bit
5)bang bang bang


It is not swims place to judge others activities. HOWEVER, this is extremely dangerous. Swim strongly recommends that swiglitterfly not try this. Getting a nice rush is not worth the risk of dying.

If swiglitterfly really wants to extract amphetamine from adderall in such a way that they can inject it he/she should learn how to do an acid/base extraction. Swim has done A/B extractions with adderall in the past and can say from personal experience that it is simple to do with the blue or orange IR's.

If swiglitterfly is intent on injecting adderall without doing an A/B extraction he/she should learn how to preform a subcutaneous injection (better known as skin popping). It poses less of a risk to swiy's health because nothing enters the veins directly.

Best of luck and be safe.

[blusilf]

Thanks, Ranke. Glad you followed up and I'd like to clarify a bit.



SWIM actually definately does not recommend

"The Gnarly Super Vein Destoyer Method"

1) crush pill
2) load the powder directly into the syringe
3) you know the deal, insert plunger, carefully make sure the powder's all down at the bottom so you can push out the air...
4) draw hot water into your syringe and shake it up a bit
5)bang bang bang

^These steps were meant to be illustrative, not proscriptive.^

SWIM herself won't be doing the above again any time soon, or ever. SWIM really does care about the very real vascular damage that comes with shooting that crap into one's veins. SWIM did try it, though, and the results are posted above. She didn't die.

SWIM did have me put down that she couldn't wait to do it again with 40mg and a big rig, but I failed to clarify she meant that to be executed via the method below not the gnarly experiment above.

SWIM has asked me to post in an equally clear manner the far superior (for her at least) method that evolved from that first gnarly experiment:

"The Somebody flunked chemistry and can't use a coffee filter, so that Somebody just does this instead method"

Ingredients:
Adderall
HOT water

Tools:
1 spoon,
2 (yes, 2) syringes
A few filters
SWIY's choice of pill crushing device/s

Steps:
1) crush pill
2) load the powder directly into the Syringe 1
3) you know the deal, insert plunger, carefully make sure the powder's all down at the bottom so you can push out the air...
4) draw hot water into Syringe 1 and shake it up a bit
5) Shoot that into the spoon, not your veins.
6) filter and draw that back up with Rig One
----repeat steps 5-6 ad nauseum----

*SWIY can go ahead draw up some more hot water if needed whilst ad nauseuming 5-6

*When the gunk in Syringe 1 has lost a noticable of color, a sufficient amount of water solubles has been extracted (ie, the active ingredients, but also the dye and any other water soluble ingredients)

7) shoot it out your liquid onto the spoon
8) using *Syringe 2*, filter and draw
9) bang bang bang

SWIM really wants a big rig to use as Syringe 2 because this process is a lot easier with about 2cc's of water


For some reason, SWIM has just found that this process makes a nice clean water wash and she digs it, but it is a hassle. No way around that when SWIY's bangin' adderall.

[auburnfan334]

Please someone tell me how to inject adderall a/b! I have a friend shooting meth and trying to find a different alternative... may not be the safest but its not meth! the cleanest, safest and the most effective :) thank you

[dark12]

This thread needs to die.

I am not going to judge anyone for how they take their drugs, but if you aren't willing to work for some good and safe results you are going to end up with veins full of dye and binders.

But I suppose the average response to this is going to be:
Now SWIY can independently discern just what what SWIY's putting in his/her veins and can decide whether or not he/she really cares anyways.

Seriously folks let's not forget this is a harm reduction forum.

[superdupernaut]

1st things 1st. The idea that injecting adderall is somehow safer, or less addicting than crystal meth is completely bogus.

also in regards to :

"If swiglitterfly is intent on injecting adderall without doing an A/B extraction he/she should learn how to preform a subcutaneous injection (better known as skin popping). It poses less of a risk to swiy's health because nothing enters the veins directly."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I think this has a much greater potential for infections to develop than does a proper IV.


Next here is swims method for injecting pills that form a seemingly unfilterable paste. Its not perfectly safe, but it does effectively remove the non soluble gunk.

1) get a couple coffee filters.
2) get 3 spoons
2) cut the filters into squares, one slightly bigger than the other, and than fold the squares into bindles.
3) Crush the pills into powder and put into the smaller bindle. while the bindle is still open put water on the speed to make it wet, but not so wet that it drips.
4) fold the bindle and set in a spoon. put a little more water on it.
5) use another spoon to smoosh the bindle gently but firmly, squeezing out the solution into your third spoon.
6) when it stops dripping turn the bindle over, add more water, wait for it to soak in, and press it again.
7) repeat step 6 several times, if the bindle busts stick the whole setup into the other filter bindle.
8) filter (if any paste escapes) out a shot from the receiving spoon and enjoy.