Klonopin (Clonazepam) vs Xanax (Alprazolam)

[peggs16]

I prefer xanax over konopin, what do you guys prefer?

[magicmaster141]

I've taken K-pins many more times then xanax but I would give K-pin a sight edge, however it's kinda hard for me to tell the diff sometimes.

[BrandonAA]

Xanax for sure, is ten times better than klonipin

[neurochem]

K-pins 18-20hr half life


V's 18-20 hrhalf life


Xanax 10hr half life


longer ones feel better and taper nicer

[raven3davis]

I know that klonopin come in 2mg pill sizes so is 2mg klonopin more or less powerful than 2mg xanax. I know they are different but which do you guys think is stronger per mg. I know 2mg of xanax is good for me, 4mg is a high dose, and anything more than that is too much. What are the doses like for klonopin?

[Ephemerides]

Xanax usage has never worked out for anyone in a positive manner in my
life. Everyone, even people prescribed who didnt know what it was
either got addicted, or in SWIM case, fired.



Xanax is usually more enjoyable for SWIM. Kpins make SWIM very sleepy, usually goes into atleast a 24 hour sleep. Very restful.

[OiledMandible]

Hmmmm....I'd take the Xanax. Although honestly, I would prefer a few valium over either.

[vacant]

I have a friend that takes Klonopin for being bipolar, so it dulls her mood swings. Xanax can be used strictly for panic/anxiety.

All and all, I think Xanax is better, execpt the fact that half the time I don't remember a damned thing the next day.

[jesusfreak666er]

ok, to end this once and for all


xanax gets u much more fucked up, and is much more potent but the half life is much shortter and much more addictive (excluding the new xanax extended realease) but klonopin isnt bad at all i love the stuff. It is longer lasting and leaves u able to function a lot better alteast for me. When i take xanax and alcohol im out, and i cant remember jack shit, but i can take klonopins and alc and just feel fine so alone i would most definately go wit xanax. take 2 xanax 2mg bars and a 40z and ur gonna have a good time

[sloppo]

SWIM prefers Klonopin. His friend is prescribed 2mg ones, take two of those sublingually and they kick in in about 2 minutes. Xanax doesn't last as long though which is nice.

[skitz0frantic]

I like my klonopin. After a mangled E roll, I pop a couple, lay down with sum tunes on, and just stretch in calmness, its sweet, just for chillllllin. Sometimes if im forced to visit sum inlaw that i wana shoot, il pop one b4 i go, and be calm and relaxed, as if i dont give a flying fuck.http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif

[Tweaker]

i'm prescribed 2mg clonazepam and i put them under my tounge and i feel the effects within a few minutes and i feel so chilled and relaxed, i do nasty stuff on xanax i become very violent and do stupid shit while on it, so i tend to stay away from it!

[philoscybin]

Clonazepam (Klonopin) > Alprazolam (Xanax)


Been prescribed almost every benzo from alprazolam, lorazepam, diazepam, etc. I've beentaking 4.5 mg/day of clonazepam for about a year now and I'd have to say it's far superior to alprazolam considering it lasts so much longer thus making it less addictive in that you don't feel the need to keep on popping more to keep the feeling, the high (i have to take at least 8 mg due to my tolerance) is so much more relaxing and won't knock you out or give you that groggy feeling Xanax seems to do, and works wonders on my anxiety.

[allyourbase]

xanax are lovely, while klonopin inspire me to beat people up. which would you rather take...something lovely? or something that makes you want to strangle puppies??

[jesusfreak666er]

im a big fan of benzos but its really hard to compare xanax and klonopin, one is a short half life benzo with more of a kick(xanax) while klonopin is a long halflife benzo... i love em both, but it does take a lot more klonopin to get me high, but they both have their advantages.

[scriptlord]

hmm what a fine question. to be honest i think i give klonopin the slight edge. i like ativan but it takes a shit load of them to do as much as probably half of the k-pins.


final answer: klonopin


(tho if i had a few bars in my pocket it may of been a different answer.)

[metalslug0]

I have a legit perscription on klonopin. I stopped taking them though.

[said]

have never had klonopin but will affirm that when on 6mg or more
Kalma(alprazolam)crazy shit happens.Like reverting back to being 15 and
not giving a flying fuck about consequences.Not recomended but mad fun.

[Vedic Alchemist]

Chemically speaking, there is no basis for this "xanax/klonopin makes me more violent/feel worse than the other"


Generally speaking, 2mg Kpin = 1mg Xanax, really just depends on the individual, of course Klonopin has a much longer reported half-life of 18-30 hours but I don't see any reason for this to make xanax more physically addictive than Klonopin.


BTW, I have been prescribed 2mg Klonopin daily for control of panic disorder, tolerance for both build quickly so as a result I will never use Klonopin for recreational purposes, try Halcion or Rohypnol (be very careful of dosage) if you are looking for a real benzo high.

[namidua]

Informative posts guy's! never thought it would be so in depth!

[SkUnKaDeLiC]

I've never taken xanax, but I would imagine K-pin is better (ive done
them) because of its long-lasting properties. I would love to try xanax
sometime though, on top of my valium RX they would be a treat ;-)

[marleysherb]

SWIM knows that he is addicted to alprazalom, he knows that the short
half life gives him power over his day, never realizing when he comes
down. He has tried Klonipin, but the effects are different...feeling is
different...and reactions are different. If you want to get messed up,
don't do it on these drugs, they shouldn't be concidered rec's. Only
good that comes (for SWIM) is for medicinal purposes, addicted to
feeling calm I am. However, his first xanax experience was on 2mg in HS
and for 1 1/2 hours, it felt like XTC. Who would've thought that trying
to get messed up turned out to be the same as what helps SWIM live a
"normal" life. heh

[dotnet]

Clonazepam owns all benzo's... period, end it right there. lorazepam sucks, valium sucks, and xanax is way the fuck overrated.

[pharmapsyche]

For me, when I do clonazepam, I think "man this is way better than xanax" and when I do xanax I think "man this is way better than clonazepam". I think that the two are equally plesant but in certain situations one would be better then the other. For instance, if I was going to be in a social situation and I wanted to have a fun time I'd rather have xanax. That's because the shorter half-life of xanax provides a sharper, more inebriated high. If I was going to be spending the night watching movies and laying around I'd want clonazepam. K-pins are more 'chill pill'-like then xanax, since it has a longer half life (and thus a lower peak and longer duration) and because of its affinity to the heavily-sedating anticonvulsant BZ-receptor.


But I have to include that xanax provides better effects at smaller doses than k-pins. So theres also the question of how many pills you have. Lorazepam is crazy, too. Different then xanax or k-pins. And on the topic of diazepam, Ive taken 18mgs and only felt verrry mild, disappointing effects. It's a dud when it comes to benzos, IMO.

[want some]

I havent really done many klonipins but, when I did xanax for a few years straight that is 2mg at a time that eventually went up to 4mg a day and then 6mg a day and then 8mg a day and I had started doing so much stupid shit I would just go into these frenzys of wanting to jack people for their stuff or go out at 3am in the morning and try to break into cars or find ones with the doors unlocked. Ended up to steal a freinds radio out of her car cause I was broke and needed more xanax while she was in the trailer. They knew I had something to do with it, next day she came over accused me of stealing looked in my car found something that looked like hers. cops came didnt get arrested but had no money no xanax and started withdrawles andman you wouldnt believe the delusions I started having, talking to myself having conversations with an invisible person I thought was right there with me. Could not sleep for at least 5 days straight and I mean it. The only thing I go was a half awake half asleep vivid dreams with the people I had done wrong just recently telling me they were going to kill me and come to my house. I was laying on my couch with my eyes half closed listening to their voices right outside my door and then inside the room with me. Trust me it was wierd. Went to rehab and they detoxed me from the delusions with demerol. Much better now. Sorry to be so long just wanted to share thatvery bad withdrawl experience. Xanax is very strong, Valium Strong, Ativan not strong, Clonipin not so strong. Dont do PCP and Inbalming fluid it will make your friend grow a ape like beard right infront of your face, and you will get stuck and turn in circles. Crazey HuH.http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif

[strangedream]

Swim thinks klonopin is the best high out of all BENZOs by far.Swim also thinks that taking a klonopin with some good MDA is one of the best highs he ever had. Swim says he feels nothing on xanax.Swim says if your going to use a benzo stick with klonopin. He also says if you take two pills and manage to stay awake, it feels like your in a nice waking dream state. Truly amazing that klonopin,truly

regards
Edited by: strangedream

[Fuzz]

WheneverSWIM SWIMtakes any kind of anti-depressanthe always misplace things.... I will be looking for the same damn thing for hours. lol Edited by: Fuzz

[twintornado]

WheneverSWIM SWIMtakes any kind of anti-depressanthe always misplace things.... I will be looking for the same damn thing for hours. lol

SWIM does exactly the same thing. SWIM turned there house upside down looking for there bag of green. 6hrs later they found it in their pocket!http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

[BrandonAA]

to the above posts: we are not talking about anti-depressants, the proper term is benzodiazepine. however i guarrentee that any depressed person could be cured (briefly) by benzodiapines.


to the main question, it really depends on your preferance in benzos, do you like a long half life or a short one. for myself it depends on the type of feelingiam trying to attain, to relax i'll take a long one (like k-pins or vals) and if i wanna get fucked up, short acting ones are the whip (like ativan, xanies or halcyon).


anyway i haven't been on the board lately, my life was making some odd tangents along its journey. and i have to go to court in two days, wish me luck.


and in regards to what Marleysherb said; everytime i take benzos i feel exactly what everyone told me E pills felt like. and now whenever i take benzos, i tell everyone that "i'm rolling". and girlfriends say the same thing, but ho's will eat real ecstacy too.


p.s. i am at work, i sometimes work the midnight shift at a gas station, you can tell that i'm really busy.Edited by: BrandonAA

[Richard_smoker]

they're supposed to be equivalent... 2mgK for 2mgX (and 10mg Valium)

but there's definitely a difference. Klopin is more useful because memory is preserved. Xanax might be a little bit more fun, but no one I've met can take them without forgetting parts of the experience!

[calmascanbe]

Xanax ,although a better euphoria can have a huge problem with the tolerance issue. Switching to clonazepam has keeped me at an even state unlike xanax. I love xanax and tend to abuse it ,but clonazepam ,for me, has little euphoria but it has taken care of my panic and anxiety. If your serious about your panic and anxiety issues clonazepam will help more consistantly.

[2chank4u]

Can anyone explain the difference of feelings between taking xanax and klonopin and which one is more perfered.....thx

[Richard_smoker]

many people think xanax provides more of a 'rush.' Not sure what this means but it definitely has more of a 'feeling' to it. In SWIM's opinion, this feeling is neither good nor bad. Will make you forget things, steal your best friend's belongings, and lie about stupid things. Hang-over is more pronounced.

Klonopin is more gentle and SWIM actually prefers it. Less amnesia with klonopin and less side effects. -Dick

[warandhate]

i think its all about the dose i know people who take klonopins and do alot more crazy things then if they had taken some xanax. personally i have only experiemented with small does about 3.5 mg of klonopin and its really nothing to special i have a good feeling but 3.5 mg of xanax is much more of a FEEELING like they said above me i would definately not remember what happend after taking that much xanax. i think xanax is just a stronger feeling but klonopin is nice too i think i need to take more it and it might be alot similiar to a lower dose of xanax sorry if i rambled

KLONOPIN is KICKIN IN

[calmascanbe]

If your looking for anxiety releif , go with clonazepam . Xanax is (in my opinion )is more for the buzz than any clinical use. Xanax has helped SWIM in the past ,but the tolerance goes up fast and it is REALY hard to taper from.Plus clonazepam lasts longer than xanax and with xanax you'll find you need more and more each day .Swim still uses xanax for a buzz occationally.

[Kemikaru_Tenshu]

I also find that xanax doesn't last nearly long enough to make it an effective benzo for GA. While it feels better in the short term, the crash is also more abrupt and hard to tolerate. Clonazepam doesn't really have a "crash" at all, in my experience. So: if you just want to get high go with xanax, and if you want relief from anxiety/insomnia go with klonipin.



~KT

[Wyborowa]

Doc changed swim's anxiety meds from .5mg 3x a day to .5mg klonopin 3x a day.

Swim saw 2 equivelency charts, one said they were equal and one said that .5mx xanax = .25mg klonopin?!

any body have experieces w/ klonopin? This is the first time swim has used kolnopin...swim's kinda excited

[Abrad]

This sticky (http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16708) at the top of the forum should help.

[Wyborowa]

Yes that's what swim means. The one on top shows that they are equal. and the one a few posts down claims klonopin is half as strong.....which is the correct one?

[Jatelka]

SWIJ has found that the Ashton equivalence table (top one) is the most widely accepted (for withdrawal purposes mind). She does not know the source for the equivalence table posted by BlueMystic, so cannot comment on that one.

[Riconoen {UGC}]

SWIM got a prescription for klonopin when he was having anxienty. AWIM will sometime take more the the recommended dose to just chill somethines though.

[jesusfreak666er]

equivlency charts mean nothing to me. Klonapin is excellent for anxiety and much longer lasting than xanax. Most importantly xanax is extremely habbit forming, and although klonapin can be too, xanax has a higher abuse potential. Swim thinks in actuality if one is able to treat their anxiety with klonapin oposed to xanax it is much better, and prevents problems down the road with addiction. Now if one was using the drug for recreational purposes they both are nice but xanax is oviously the better of the two, but no one here does that... its illegal!

[Colby]

SWIM feels they both have the same effect but as jesusfreak said above xanax seem to be more addicting.

[Jatelka]

Short acting benzos ARE more addicting: That is why the conversion charts exist: To convert to Diazepam to help taper during withdrawal (except in the case of Clonazepam which is longer acting still).

There is a lot of evidence that drugs which cross the BBB quickly are more likely to induce dependance. Hopefully when SWIJ has more time she will upload some stuff she has on this to the archive.

[sourceman]

^ Glad you posted that Klono was longer. SWIM has no experience with Klono but knows a fair amount about Xanax. Swim doesn't like xanax very much as it hits too hard, good for knocking one out to get to sleep quick (not illegally though!! injested knowingly!)

As the original poster questioned the equivalence factor. SWIM has seen both as well. Only recently has SWIM seen them compared as equals. SWIM always believed Klonopin to be the "top dog",lol, of the common benzo's, with 2x potency of xanax. This would make the .5mg xanax -> .25mg Klono correct.

Here is what Swim thinks and questions: How does one compare definitively the strengths of drugs? Is it initial potency/reaction, or the lenght in which the drug effects one's body/mind, or both? A similar comparison could be made to hydrocodone and oxycodone (vicodin and percocet's, respectively, for all you benzo heads, lol). Some doctors say oxy is 2x stronger than hydro's. In Swim, there isn't that much difference at all. Swim feels possible a 1.25 ratio would be a more "fair" assumption in SWIM's case. Some people can't take hydro's, some can't take oxy's. It is all dependant upon the individual consuming the substance.

SWIM feels that they skip this section in Med school. SWIM isn't a doctor, but knows more about the chemical/bioavailability of drugs than the doctor who is prescribing them. If SWIM questions the doctor (which isn't always a good idea to show too much knowledge) about dosing and effect/bio-availablity/receptor binding, Doctor thinks SWIM is fishing for meds, when SWIM only want to know what SWIM is ingesting and how to use the dosage safely (minimum does for maximum effect). Sorry to rant about Docs, but they piss me off b/c their "god" complex. 7 years in school doesn't make one GOD or even close. BTW, not all docs are bad. If one finds a good one STAY with them and make sure one lets that doctor know they appreciate their services/time/expertise! A good doctor is GOLDEN!

SWIM feels they both have the same effect but as jesusfreak said above xanax seem to be more addicting.

Out of curiosity, if one had extreme life changing circumstances (major bodily injury, loss of job, residency/home, and possible jail time), what would be the best anti-e/benzo to give SWIM for their anxiety. Assume the following are on the table are any dosage:

Ativan : Lorazepam
Valium : Diazepam
Xanax : Alprazolam
Klonopin : Clonazepam

SWIM is also on pain medicine 20-40mg Oxy ED (every day) and Wellbutrin

SWIM thinks diazepam is a very smooth benzo as well as lorazepam. SWIM has never tried Clonazepam but would like to. Doctor almost took SWIM off all anti-E's when asked about trying klono instead of his hated Xanax.

Opinions are greatly appreciated and are taken as OPINIONS (Not medical advice!!!!!) Thank you for you thoughts!

[calmascanbe]

From SWIMS experiance clonazepam (when used to it) can be more affective than xanax and without the bad side effects. It helps the user keep on an even footing instead of the xanax rollercoaster.If used right it can work very well on anxiety. SWIM would not use it for recreational use.

[powderhead55]

SWIM had a real bad experience with xanax a while back and is a lil shy of goin back to any benzo's. Now this wasnt his first benzo, its not first time ruin, SWIM has taken valium many times before and been fine, its just that this one time was intense.

SWIM ate like 3 bars (2mg xanax in each) and cant remember a majority of the two days after. He knows he didnt black out cuz he remembers being there and controlling everything, but just cant remember what happened. Like he knows he had control of the situation, just cant remember the situation. Like in his American Lit class they watched a documentary which took 2 class periods. Went in on the 3rd day after he took the bars and failed miserably cuz he doesnt remember watchin it.

Now my final question.... are k-pins as strong as xanax? did SWIM just take too much and will a smaller dose be better? note he likes to stay in control when using any drug, loss of control or memory is terrifying to him.

[DrMuffy]

clonazepam (klonopin, k-pins) are basically as strong as xanax when it is compared dose to dose. For recreational purposes, many people prefer xanax, but some prefer k-pins. They are both benzos and cause very simarlar effects. Clonazepam has a very long half life though unlike alprazolam (xanax) so that can be good or bad. K-pins might make you black out if xanax did, but there is a lesser chance of it doing so. It depends on the dosage and what SWIY ingests before and after, so be careful no matter what benzo SWIY takes because they can cause blackouts!

[Jatelka]

^^^ Next time why doesn't SWIY elaborate a bit? There is a sticky poll at the top of this forum fo voting for favourite benzo and posting reasons why.

See here...

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14062

Given the number of people viewing this forum SWIJ is always amazed that more haven't voted!

[Morphium]

Both are are potent, but K-pins seem to always have a more profound effect on me. Xanax is a little more chill, Klonopin just kicks your ass.

[Sickpup]

SWIM has never heard of 6mg of xanax causing that effect,unless there was alcohol involved,even 1-2 shots,beers,SWIM says will/can cause that effect.SWIM says once in that condition you may also have taken other stuff you don't remember doing.

[DrMuffy]

6 mg of xanax will cause blackouts in alot of people. Some people who are hypersensitive or dont have a tolerance to benzos even get blackouts in as little as 1 mg.

[Sickpup]

OP did say OP had been on benzos before,perhaps not taking a triple dose might help avoid a 2 day blackout.

[biggpri]

it depends on what one's intention is. clonazepam is better when you just want to take something during the day to ease your anxiety. it's not as heavy and doesn't make you pass out in your seat. if, on the other hand, one needs a downer to soften a cocaine comedown and pass out, xanax is superior.

[Matt The Funk]

SWIM just switched to clonazepam a few days ago for anxiety, instead of alprazolam. The clonazepam relieves his anxiety great, and he is glad he has it, plus he doesn't feel the need to abuse it. While on xanax, he would abuse and triple or quadruple his dose 2-3 times a week. He's glad he got switched, although his doctor wants to put him back on an SSRI(waiting while he is on a mood stabilizer). Anyways, the klonopin works very well, and he believes .25mgK > .5mgX

[kratom21]

SWIM's doctor just switched his prescription from klonipin to xanax. SWIM found klonipin to be helpful for occasionall anxeity and just to cillout, and relax on a nice day and watch T.V. n stuff. SWIM requested an increase on dosage but the doctor just recently switched his scripted to xanax. SWIM is just curious is xanax stronger then klonopin?

SWIM only uses benzo's once in a while like and not everday so tolerance is low.

[Matt The Funk]

SWIM finds clonazepam(klonopin) to be FAR SURPERIOR to treating everyday anxiety, while alprazolam(xanax) is good for every once in a while anxiety. The thing about xanax is SWIM quickly started abusing it and had a small on/off relationship with abusing it that would result in physical pain and and bad drawback anxiety. However alprazolam is a short acting benzo and the effects seem to be far more euphoric, but swim doesn't think it's any stronger. While clonazepam is a long acting benzo with a long half-life, it's not all that euphoric to SWIM but it does relieve his horrible anxiety. But SWIM would say try .5 less of xanax than what SWIY would take for klonopin, and up the dosage if SWIY isn't where he/she wants to be.

[Jatelka]

Please always include the chemical name of pharmaceutical drugs in your posts.

This can be easily obtained from Google or other search engine.

Doing so will avoid confusion on this international forum. Thank you.

[purplehaze]

Swim prefers klonopin over xanax anyday, klonopin mix's very well with swims chemistry and makes him have a positive outlook on life and as a result he feels really good. You can't hardly piss swim off when hes on klonopins things just dont matter that much to him, he will keep trying untill something works and if he cant get something to work its never a big deal to him.


Xanax doesn't always "work" with swim, most of the time swim doesn't even feel like he has taken anything other than being slightly hungry and heavily tired.
Xanax has made swim black out and forget days at a time, but swim just hasnt ever gotten that much pleasure from taking them. He was prescribed them for a good while, they helped stress at work but never to a serious level, swim eventually decided to quite paying for them so he stoped. Addiction oddly never set in when he quite taking them, probably because he would take the whole script the first 3 days and then do without, klonopin makes life so much easier for swim. But swim has decided not to take any benzo's because of addiction.

Xanax can be fun, but...
Swims vote definately goes for klonopine.

[poptilyoudrop]

After a couple months of taking orange (.5mg) pills of alprazolam(xanax), My doctor has switched my prescription to .5mg pills of clonazepam(klonipin).

What is the difference between the two benzodiazepines, in terms of effect, time to kick in, strength?

Also,

Would one suggest ever mixing these two benzodiazepines?

Thank You!!:vibes:

[rex24u]

Personally I think xanax is stronger but I prefer klonopin over it. It has a diff feeling to it, ore of a body high as well. I prefer the 2mg klonopin though

[Jatelka]

Threads merged

[Matt The Funk]

After a couple months of taking orange (.5mg) pills of alprazolam(xanax), My doctor has switched my prescription to .5mg pills of clonazepam(klonipin).

What is the difference between the two benzodiazepines, in terms of effect, time to kick in, strength?

Also,

Would one suggest ever mixing these two benzodiazepines?

Thank You!!:vibes: SWIM mixes downers a lot, along with uppers too. But in particular benzo's since he has a prescription and can get them for VERY CHEAP. Anyways SWIM mixes them. Never mixed them alone that ha can re-call but he takes them for the immediate effects of the alprazolam and the steady effects of clonazepam

[Laudaphun]

SWIM is trying to figure this clonazepam vs. alprazolam debate out for himself. Strangely enough, SWIM has been taking alprazolam off and on most of her life. Alprazolam was actually the first controlled substance SWIM consumed.
So anyways, SWIM currently has ample supplies of alprazolam, temazepam, chlordiazepoxide, and now clonazepam. For a long time, SWIM took temazepam which turned out not suitable for daily use as tolerance occurs after only a few days. SWIM started taking less temazepam and replacing it with 2mg alprazolam in the evening for the same purpose as the temazepam was used for. SWIM found that a single daily dose of 2mg alprazolam did not create tolerance as did the temazepam. Out of nowhere, on a dr. visit, SWIM dr. changed her meds to clonazepam in place of chlordiazepoxide. While SWIM has taken gobs and gobs of alprazolam over the past 13 years, only twice has she taken clonazepam. Each experience was a single 1mg dose fo clonazepam. So, suddenly SWIM found herself with a script for clonazepam 3mg/day. This should be a higher dose than her typical single,daily dose of 2mg alprazolam? So now, SWIM has a script for clonazepam but has never tried it, except 2 previous occasions. First experience, swim recalls that a single pill insufflated had a pretty familiar benzo-type feeling, however that was so long ago that SWIM cannot recall much more of the experience. In the second and more recent experience, SWIM had been taking a single daily dose of 2mg alprazolam each evening. Someone had given SWIM a 1mg clonazepam pill to try and one afternoon, SWIM was experiencing sudden acute anxiety. SWIM didn't want to take a 2mg alprazolam tablet that early in the day as it typically results in pretty strong benzo effects. SWIM decided that this would be a good test for the clonazepam. SWIM swallowed the 1mg clonzepam and it had little if any "feeling" to it, however anxiety was gone completely and fairly quickly as well. SWIM was impressed with it's effectiveness. It is also good to note that SWIM did take her daily 2mg alprazolam that evening like any other day, however the effects felt much stronger... surprisingly so. So it seemed that a clonazepam dose of 1mg earlier in the day boosted a 2mg alprazolam dose (6? hours later).

So, with only those 2 experiences under her belt, SWIM recieveced a clonazepam prescription 1mg t.i.d. to replace chlordiazepoxide 25mg b.i.d. SWIM has had a hard time trying the clonazepam as she was habituated to the alprazolam 2mg each evening and knew she could count on it's effects. From SWIM's 2nd experience where teh clonazepam seemed to boost the alprazolam (taken 6 hours apart), SWIM decided tthat the best way to try out the clonazepam would be to take her typical dose of 2mg alprazolam along with a 1mg clonazepam tablet. Well, unlike SWIM's earlier experience, this didn't work out as expected, but rather sedated SWIM. So the point is that 1mg clonazepam taken 6 hours prior to 2mg alprazolam seemed to boost the alprazolam, while the same dosages taken at the same time proceeded to just knock SWIM out. SWIM's lab rat experienced the same results.

So, SWIM was able to conclude that these 2 benzos were not to be taken simultaneously, but rather spaced out several hours. At this point SWIM was no longer in doubt of the power of clonzepam, so for her next trial, 2mg alprazolam was replaced with 2mg clonzepam with the addition of no other benzo. There were no real "feeling" from this dose, but it left SWIM calm. SWIM woke up in the morning and the anti-anxiety effect was still present. So after having the script for 2 weeks, SWIM had used only 3 pills. SWIM decided to try replacing 2mg clonazepam with 2mg alprazolam again tonight. While the strong, but short-lived feeling of alprazolam was absent, clonazepam left SWIM feeling balanced. There seems to be less memory issues with a 2mg clonazpeam dose in comparison with a 2mg alprazolam dose.

SWIM enjoys taking the alprazolam more than the clonazepam, however each seems to e more suited for different situations and needs. SWIM will continue to compare and contrast the 2 medications taken at 2mg doses each. Perhaps 1mg doses even. The long half-life of clonazepam does scare SWIM though. Don't want to be under the influces of benzos 24/7 which was SWIM's major gripe with chlordiazepoxide.

SWIM's conclusions thus far are in agreement with many of the above. Alprazolam is the better choice for recreational use, while clonazepam is better for daily anxiety. Alprazolam when you want something hard and quick, and clonazepam when you want something to give a more subtle but none-the less effective effect over a longer period of time.

[poptilyoudrop]

SWIM had a 1mg clonazepam prescription and now has a 1mg xanax prescription, as is much happier with the alprazolam :)

[Steva]

Swim always had xanax 1mg a day.
Valium nice for calmness and muscle relaxant.
He just tried Clonazepam for the first time.
It lasts alot longer than the other 2 no euphoria just an overall relaxed feeling.
SWIM thinks all 3 would come in handy.
Xanax for intense situations
Valium for backache can't sleep
Clonazepam for general Anxiety so swim can reserve the other 2 for special situations.

[Laudaphun]

SWIM's opinion since her last post on this topic. She is beginning to favor clonazepam for it's prescribed use. While alprazolam is pretty hard to beat for situations where you need a heavy hitter, SWIM has begun to favor clonazpam as her benzo of choice when anxiety is an issue during any part of the day where she still has tasks to accomplish that require mental clarity. On the other hand, when at a social event where social skills are more important than math/academic/etc skills then the alprazolam is still her #1 pick. Keep in mind, SWIM is speaking of therapeutic usefulness. SWIM feels that clonazepam is just as effective at a mg for mg comparison at relieving anxiety and such, however it lacks the side effects of alprazolam (both the good and bad ones). Often the effects from clonazepam are not even noticed until SWIM encounters a situation that would normally cause her anxiety, and then she finds herself strangely calm.

An example, SWIM takes a clonazepam and notices no effects. SWIM then goes to the store which is always crowded and chaotic with people running all over the place and this typically causes SWIM either moderate anxiety or irritability. But then SWIM notices that she doesn't mind so much this time which is unusual, hence the clonazepam's magic.

Still, SWIM hasn't used the clonazepam enough to fully be able to replace alprazolam and is beginning to think along the same lines as the above poster. "They each have their respective uses and it is worthwhile to keep both in stock." This is of course taking into consideration that SWIM or SWIY is able to reserve use to an "only when necessary" basis as benzo dependancy is not a beast to tangle with.

However, if SWIM had to pick one to use for recreation, in a mg to mg comparison alprazolam would be her obvious choice. On one occasion, a single 1mg clonazepam pill taken earlier in the day seemed to boost the effect of a 2mg alprazolam pill which was taken about 6 hours later. Of course, this was an isolated incident which SWIM has not been able to repeat.

[delphinen]

Clonazepam vs Alprazolam? Clonazepam for sure. Alprazolam its too speedy for a benzo, and the SSRI effect of Clonazepam helps a lot with opiates combos.

[Laudaphun]

That's interesting, I wasn't aware of the SSRI effect of clonazepam. Guess I will have to research that some.... currently waiting on some new books that should have some good information. Despite taking loads of alprazolam, SWIM has only recently been able to obtain clonazepam. SWIM want's to begin taking less alprazolam and more clonazepam just because it is more beneficial for SWIM. Is it pretty much set in stone that "typically" alprazolam and clonazepam are equally as potent mg per mg?

[sterling77]

Is it pretty much set in stone that "typically" alprazolam and clonazepam are equally as potent mg per mg?

Yea this has been debated ad nauseum elsewhere, for all practical purposes they are equipotent.

[Steva]

Ok Swim takes all 3 alternatively each day.
Xanax is like champagne.Kills the anxiety in a euphoric way.
Valium is the old school benzo but 20 mg will calm you down
and relax the body nicely.
Clonazepam is like being brainwashed into thinking anxiety never existed.
Take your pick.Tough choice.

[amadeusstoner]

My pet lizard has limited experience with both, but he told me he bought a few pills the other day that he thought were xanax but were actually klonopins (he found this out the next day). He said he honestly could not tell the difference, and also could not tell you what happened that night except that he woke up in his bed feeling more rested then he ever has. :)

[CrookedEye]

klonopins seem much weaker than xanax to SWIM and won't put him to sleep anywhere as easily...

[UpAllNiteOCXTC]

swim agrees, clonazepam is weak but as one already knows, swiys body chemistry varies from person to person