Psicotic help

[traveler]

A friend of mine has mental problems.That that everyone knows as schizophrenia but that nobody knows what it is exactly (don´t even the fucking psychiatrists).My friend likes drugs and we know he must be very careful about it.
I´d like to know what kind of drugs he can take without serious problems.
I´m sure he must forget about taking any kind of hallucinogens (even grass) or meth,but what about cocaine,mdma,opiades,street´s hash(definetely no hallucinogen),etc..?
I wanna know as well if there is any difference if he takes them under medication or when he is free medication?
Please no moral tips.Put yourself in his situation

[a4stringedwonder]

SWIM also had a somewhat similar problem, SWIM had a very small case of psychosis, but no longer has any traces of psychosis. SWIM has had certain times in his life where he was under a lot of stress and had problems with hallucinations, hearing voices, and psychotic episodes. I have no idea if this is anywhere similar to your case, but i feel like SWIM can offer some advice because SWIM has heard alot about drugs and psychosis.

SWIM has used acid, shrooms, and a handfull of other hallucinogens and has never experienced a psychotic episode... besides when he had some trips not go over so well, but it doesnt sound any different from a normal person's "bad trip"... SWIM has had a close friend, in residential boarding school, when he was younger who was thrown into a state of mild psychosis by a bad acid trip... if your SWIM has a real bad scizeophrenia i recomend not using hallucinogens, SWIM was young and ignorant when SWIM experimented with them, SWIM is lucky he found out that it did not throw him into a deeper state of psychosis.

I HIGHLY recomend your SWIM to not use ANY powerful stimulants such as cocaine and ANY type of amphetamine, they can cause extreme paranoia and hallucinations. Also, as you know, NO HALLUCINOGENS it is quite possible that they will throw your SWIM into a deeper state of psychosis.

DO NOT use any recreational drug in combination with whatever your SWIM is as a anti-psychotic... as your SWIM most likely knows, they are very powerful drugs that leave you in a foggy headed state of mind. these powerful drugs do not mix well with most other prescription or OTC drugs other than motrin and weak drugs like that (i remember SWIMs abilify did not even mix with benedryl.)

if SWIY enjoys using drugs make sure that SWIY doesnt take his medicine whenever he wants to use. if SWIY is in such a deep state of psychosis that if he does not take his medicine he will have a very active case of scizeophrenia than dont use drugs... simple as that, if SWIY is like that SWIY already has enough problems to deal with and should not use drugs because they create even more problems with anyone.

tell me if i left anything out, or you have any other questions

good luck

[a4stringedwonder]

SWIM has used acid, shrooms, and a handfull of other hallucinogens and has never experienced a psychotic episode...

i meant, related to drugs psychosis

[traveler]

DO NOT use any recreational drug in combination with whatever your SWIM is as a anti-psychotic... as your SWIM most likely knows, they are very powerful drugs that leave you in a foggy headed state of mind. these powerful drugs do not mix well with most other prescription or OTC drugs other than motrin and weak drugs like that (i remember SWIMs abilify did not even mix with benedryl.)

When you said that they don´t mix well with most other drugs.What do you mean exactly?I mean ,what can happen to him if he does it?And how much time before do you think he must stop taking anti-psycotic medication? I don´t how much time last the effects of that sort of drugs.

Do you think cocaine is a powerful stimulant?Pure cocaine sure is,but what about the shit that is normaly sold in the streets?Maybe it only depends how much of it he takes.

On the other hand,seizing the opportunity and changing of topic.Could you explain me what´s the mean of SWIM and SWIY?I read that in a lot of threads,English is not my mothertongue and thought I think I understand the meaning I´m not quite sure.Is it something like a impersonal way to say I and you?

[sands of time]

I had a friend who was, for lack of better words, psychotic. He was taking a variety of anti-psychotic meds, but he also used many recreational drugs. I think the drug use caused him to become very unstable, as he would go from being passive to violent and threatening. In my senior year in high school, he ended up telling a teacher that he was going to stab her or something. Needless to say, that resulted in an instant suspension from school, but I would suspect that recreational drugs had something to do with his notorious unstability.

[a4stringedwonder]

SWIM stands for: Someone Who Isnt Me.
SWIY stands for: Someone Who Isnt You. or refering to your SWIM.

the reason people use SWIM is to not criminalize them selves... and yes you are pretty much right in your assumption as to what SWIM means

but about the other things...
I couldnt answer the other question about the antipsychotic drugs very well unless you told me what SWIM is prescribed as an anti-psychotic... I know that abilify takes about a day after continued use in order to rid the drug from your system, but thats abilify, the drug SWIM takes as an anti-psychotic most likely is not abilify.

SWIM has personally experienced EXTREME paranoia and hallucinations from cocaine use. He said that he has experienced hallucinations and paranoia, even from just using for 5 or 6 times in a night. this cocaine SWIM said was also pretty pure and very nice stuff. but if SWIY wants to use cocaine MAKE SURE that SWIY doesnt use it more than 2 times in a row. otherwise SWIY may experience the extreme paranoia of the crash.
another factor is how pure it is... and there is no way of telling, sorry =/

as far as drug like marijuana and hash, you will most likely not experience any problem with them, possibly even while taking anti-psychotics, i dont know... i would say it would be wirth a try though, just dont get stoned out of your mind at first =)...

and please verify what anti-psychotic SWIY is using, id be glad to help further.

any more questions? please ask me if so, once again, glad to help

P.S.
pardon my language last night, i noticed this morning the ammount af grammatical errors. sorry for any confusion...

peace,
a4stringedwonder

[a4stringedwonder]

I had a friend who was, for lack of better words, psychotic. He was taking a variety of anti-psychotic meds, but he also used many recreational drugs. I think the drug use caused him to become very unstable, as he would go from being passive to violent and threatening. In my senior year in high school, he ended up telling a teacher that he was going to stab her or something. Needless to say, that resulted in an instant suspension from school, but I would suspect that recreational drugs had something to do with his notorious unstability.

^ very wise, brings up another point i need to make... its not only the fact that antipsychotics/psychosis could throw SWIY into a deeper state of psychosis. heavy or even moderate drug use can make ANYONE and i mean ANYONE "less stable". and with someone who is already not very stable to say the least, it would not be a very wise choice to really get into heavy or moderate drug use, for it would most likely make them even less stable.

at one point in SWIMs life, he started using cocaine on a regular basis, and became very unstable and withdrawn to say the least. eventually SWIM decided that it just wasnt worth it, SWIM was in high school and becoming very withdrawn and mean to other people (some might describe this as "unstable" i certainly think it is).

peace,
a4stringedwonder

[xx3]

The drugs to avoid for a neurotic, and even more so for a psychotic mind, are the HALLUCINOGENS. Just remember the set / setting model, where the neurosis determines the overwhelming negative effect. Cant escape that.

One very usefull way, to help understand the human mind, is a model with a quite simple postulate: "Toughts have life of their own." Remember when when something worries you and, you CAN'T banish that tought out of conciousness? When you hear a stupid song, that "plays" annoyingly in your head? Well, we all have much less control than we think we have. A neurotic mind is preoccupied with worries, fears, etc. A psychotic mind is a neurotic, to such a degree, that a sennse of reality is lost. Bad things happen.

Using hallucinogens, gives power to toughts that makes one neurotic. Something you dont want. I believe, that a psychosis is one of the worst things to live. Bad trip anyone? Thats psychosis. Fear & loathing. I've been there and I tell you, there is fear as we talk of generally, and there is living TERROR with no end.

On the other hand, a sane person, with no bad patterns waiting to escape the un-councousness, will / could have a beutifull trip. Flowers power. Positive set.

Thats how I think of the mind, sanity, etc.
Peace