View Full Version : Combinations - Benzodiazepines and Zolpidem
vicodinaddik
07-01-2005, 09:06
Is it safe or straight up crazy?http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif
ToxicMind
07-01-2005, 11:14
As far as safe, well it's not going to kill you or anything, just keep the doses small.as for crazy, welli've never mixed them myself but idon't think it would do much other then put you to sleep.if you take them together you'll feel each one stronger, sojust don't take to much.-K
I took ambien for a while, but after 2 weeks it did nothing to me.
So at aprox. 3 weeks after i started taking ambien, i was taking 40 mg diazepam and 20 mg ambien to get some sleep.
I did that for about a month..
And i'm still alive http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif
vicodinaddik
11-01-2005, 10:24
thankshttp://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif
Hello all
This is not a thread about abusing substances but about possible interactions between two well known ones, that people here seem to master well enough for me to bring this up.
If one was to fly long distance, say a good 18 hours in the air, and wanted to use a sleeping pill to sleep the flight away (and arrive a little less thrashed from jetlag), as one usually does in such situations. One usually goes to see a doctor and get some zolpidem ( Stilnox / ambien) prescribed to cope with jetlag faster, usually taking one on the plane ( can get 5/6 hours sleep), then half-bars for a few days to get to sleep ( One does not use sleeping pills normally, hypnotics or others, so this works quite well).
however, having recently got some 0,25 alprazolam tabs ( Xanax), and considering this flight is longer, what would you guys think of a combination of one stilnox ( which is quite light, possible to not get to sleep and possible to awake and then have trouble getting back to sleep, especially on a plane) and half a 0.25 tab of xanax ? does this seem like a good combination for crashing in the plane (haha), or would you frown down on such a pill cocktail ?
Sorry if this seems like a very silly question for hardcore downer users.
The dosages are safe - but I don't think the Xanax will really increase your sleep beyond the stilnox. Might make your waking hours less agitated though. And any combo that would put you out for 18 hours is probably not a good one to take. And it isn't a silly question at all - this is all very reasonable. It's nice to see a question here and not a statement about how awesome it is mixing Xanax and roofies and Heroin all together.
The dosages are safe - but I don't think the Xanax will really increase your sleep beyond the stilnox. Might make your waking hours less agitated though. And any combo that would put you out for 18 hours is probably not a good one to take. And it isn't a silly question at all - this is all very reasonable. It's nice to see a question here and not a statement about how awesome it is mixing Xanax and roofies and Heroin all together.
I know someone who recently overdosed on xanax and heron mix. He lived through it but he had to go to the hospital.
As for a nice sleep, just take an ambien. I got some today from the doctor, i told her i couldnt sleep, and had been taking benadryl and she gave me a script, also i have a sinus infection and had to get antibiotics.
addicted2hc
06-01-2006, 22:19
What kind of effects do you feel from Alprazolam? SWIM has tried 3 .25mg Alprazolams' and it didnt do much of anything. Any suggestions?
Also, I'm a bit curious about klonopin. What effects come from this? SWIM has thought about trying some, but doesnt know if they're worth the time. It would be taken alone. Worth It? Why/Why not?
IHrtHalucingens
06-01-2006, 22:29
.75 milligrams is not very much when using recreationally. for your first time id suggest 3-4 mg. depending on your bodies natural tolereance to things. Ive gone up to 16mg at a time, with a tolerance, so just experiment and try to not do it more than once a week.
As for klonopin it is very similar to xanax, just not as strong, u can use that recreationally too just at a higher dose, if i remember my first time using klonopin i took 14mg, but that was after i tried xanax so i knew id have to take more. Maybe try 10-12mg for your first time, again its trial and error.
Both are worth it when used in the right dosage.
addicted2hc
06-01-2006, 23:13
Well blacking out doesnt seem like too much of a fun thing. It'd make more sense to take it and just relax and feel it, and i dont want to sleep for a day. What do you recomend?
IHrtHalucingens
06-01-2006, 23:19
try 2-3mg alprazolam. maybe 5-7mg klonopin
addicted2hc
06-01-2006, 23:22
all at one time? All that is available is .25mg alprazolam. Thats like 8 pills(<, hopefully theres enough left in the bottle.
IHrtHalucingens
06-01-2006, 23:26
in order to enjoy the pills to the maximum you have to take a relatively large dose compared to what is prescribed. Otherwise you may feel mild letharga, you will not have any energy, but there is no "euphoria". I guess it depends on what you are looking for. And even at a low dose you will either sleep longer than usual or you will get up and be groggy and out of it for much of the morning. Dont do it when u have to work at 6am the next morning or something.
addicted2hc
06-01-2006, 23:30
Is it at all comparable to hydrocodone? or oxycontin?
IHrtHalucingens
06-01-2006, 23:35
Not really, these are benzos. These are to relive anxiety and put you to sleep. Those are pain killers. Xanax doesnt really numb you it just makes you very uncoordinated and tired. i personally like benzos better but everyone is different
addicted2hc
06-01-2006, 23:47
Alright, Thanks for the responses. I dont really need to sleep, but i just want to try something new. I like opiates, but the feeling SWIM like is the anxious rush kind of feeling SWIM gets in his stomach, i hate the end where all SWIM does is nod off. Just looking for something new.
What would you say to doing 2mg and going to a movie or some shit?(was thinkin of hostel)(<
IHrtHalucingens
06-01-2006, 23:49
I dunno i was also thinking of going to see that, i think it would be better if you didnt because it will make you not get scared by the movie, you know. Unless thats what you want.
addicted2hc
06-01-2006, 23:54
yeah i'd rather not be freaked, just chill and see some gorey shit. got 2.5mg chillin right here. just debatin. worth a try?
IHrtHalucingens
06-01-2006, 23:57
ok yeah if thats the case then definatley take it. That should be decent. But just be warned depending on your bodies reaction you could be perfectly functional, or you could slurr your speech, maybe stumble around, basically seem drunk. But 2.5 mg should be a good dose to do what you wanan do.
addicted2hc
07-01-2006, 00:07
Alright Thanks a lot for all the help man. Appreciate it a lot. I'll let you know how things go later tonight or tomorrow.
IHrtHalucingens
07-01-2006, 00:08
No problem ill be interested to hear what you think.
addicted2hc
07-01-2006, 00:17
OH one last thing, what about food/drink? Im on an empty stomach right now, good bad? Anything i should avoid?
IHrtHalucingens
07-01-2006, 00:19
as with pretty much anything if u have an empty stomach it will hit you harder and faster. If u can stand it dont eat anything until after the movie. but if u do eat it wont make a huge difference.
addicted2hc
07-01-2006, 00:30
Alright but it wont give me an upset stomach or anything?
IHrtHalucingens
07-01-2006, 00:35
ive never experienced that personally but again everyones different maybe u should eat a little just to be safe
addicted2hc
07-01-2006, 05:19
Well, SWIM took 6 .25mg(1.5mg) alprazolam around 8 o clock or so. SWIM was getting ready to head over to my dads place for the weekend, and let me just say wow. After about 10 minutes or so after taking them, SWIM felt very wobbly and had a hard time getting my shit packed.
After SWIM arrived at the house, all SWIM remembers is putting his shoes down, and after that SWIM doesnt remember anything until now(10:17) Basically SWIM blacked out for a few hours. Overall SWIM enjoyed it, and SWIM might take 2 more to hit 2mg total, and then take a few shots and call it a night.
Anyone thihnk taking shots is a bad idea?
IHrtHalucingens
07-01-2006, 06:52
Its 2 cns depressants but with 2mg a few shots wont be bad. Thats often how i top of a good xanax experience. Im glad SWIM enjoyed it. How do you compare it to hyrdocodone and oxycontin?
addicted2hc
07-01-2006, 19:28
I'd have to say i liked it better than oc or hydrocodone. The only thing is the not remembering shit, thats kind of lame but kind of cool at the same time. I dont know, got a few more left and will probably give it another try tonight
IHrtHalucingens
08-01-2006, 07:55
Yeah i am affected greatly by the memory issue too. If i were you id wait a couple days b4 taking the rest jsut cuz most likely u wont get the same affect even with the same dose, tolerance develops quickyl ive found so its betetr to space use out a bit.
bcStoner420
08-01-2006, 09:11
Ahh tolerance, the 2nd worste enemy of drug users, next to addiction.
IHrtHalucingens
08-01-2006, 09:36
Ohh and did you see hostel the other night? i saw it tonight and was kinda dissapointed, overall it was an entertaining movie but it wasnt nearly as gory as it was advertised to be. IT seemed like euro trip2 for the first half then it started to get violent. Ionno thats just what i thought
addicted2hc
08-01-2006, 23:32
Never ended up seeing it. A few people who saw it on friday said it definiately wasnt worth it so i decided to skip it.
On the other hand, last night(saturday)I took a bit higher dosage then on friday and I felt almost nothing but tired. I slept really good but thats not really what I was hoping to get out of it. I wish i would've seen your previous post sooner.
kjfellows
22-07-2006, 08:12
SWIM took 2.5mg of Xanax a couple of hours ago, would it be safe to take a 12.5mg Ambien CR tablet?
Safe as in, SWIM won't likely die... though I don't have experience combining these 2, SWIM has combined many others.
It is very likey that SWIM won't remember much though.
Best to also write down what and how much he took as a note to himself (and others should he OD). It is fairly common for people taking Ambien and/or Xanax to forget when they last took one... and so, take another. This can very quickly lead to taking more than intended.
As always, be careful!
boy162000
22-07-2006, 19:34
DO NOT DO THIS. Xanax is a benzo and so is Ambien. Ambien works on a different set of receptors and is supposedly not a narcotic, but it is a benzo none the less. NEVER EVER EVER MIX TWO CNS DEPRESSANTS UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. Please consult someone on this board who knows more than me about this topic. Pm a moderator, or pm kemikaru_tenshu in particular, as I know for sure he would be able to give you a very reliable answer.
torr_aox
24-07-2006, 10:08
Ambien is a hypnotic/sedative. it combines two drugs...one knocks you out, the other keeps you out. Benzo's are anti-anxiety.
That said, combine if you'd like, but use small amounts (like 1mg Xanax and 10mg Ambien). SWIM has used this combination before to sleep after a night with the lady in white with no ill effects. I think it would have been fun for him if SWIM could have stayed awake.
Ambien is a hypnotic/sedative. it combines two drugs...one knocks you out, the other keeps you out. Benzo's are anti-anxiety.
Ambien is not a combination of drugs. It contains zolpidem tartrate as its sole active ingredient.
boy162000
24-07-2006, 19:46
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zolpidem
It would appear jduba is right, and SWIM apologizes. However, SWIM was aware that the effects are similar to benzodiazapenes. In the post, SWIM was unsure if the amounts proposed would be safe since Zolpidem hits on the same receptors (omega 1) as benzos, and did not want anyone to go into respitory arrest on his reccomendation. Thanks for the correction, tho. SWIM will make sure to do his homework more thoroughly next time.
- boy162000
~lostgurl~
24-07-2006, 20:43
SWIM was prescribed with 2mg daily of the Benzo Clonazepam/Klonapin (Equivalent to 2mg Xanax) & 15 mg daily of the hypnotic Zopiclone for 2 years and never had the slightest problem combining them. Ambien is different to Zopiclone, but they are both hypnotics and dosage amounts are very similar, but not exactly the same. The combination you are asking (and similar combos like SWIMS) are prescribed by doctors very frequently so you should be absolutley fine.
If, however, you have any serious medical conditions or are already taking other medication/drugs then you should definately consult a medical pratitioner for more info
Sounds like a dip-roarin', residence-trashin', car-crashin', what-the-hell-happened-last-night good time.
This was dumb of SWIM to do...but one night he decided to pop sum Kpins, percosets, and of course ambien. Well i was in extreme bliss for the first 30 minutes or so, but then i started to get REEALLLYY tired, and i had to lean against the wall so i wouldnt fall lol. So i would be careful with tha suff, ambien by itself is best, but you can mix benzos with a small amount of liquer. Since they are both CNS Depressants, they add to one anothers effects
SWIM has not had a problem with clonazepam + ambien, although he's always reacted idiosyncratically to benzos (no memory problems ever, no problems mixing with alcohol).
SWIM does agree that caution should be used, despite the fact that strictly speaking, Ambien isn't a benzo. One substance could definitely potentiate the effects of the other, and the amount could vary widely based on individual biochemistry. Extreme caution is always advisable when two downers of any sort are being mixed. More people *by far* have died mixing "downs" than any other drug combos.
Hi all,
I'd just like to let you know I took 4 x 1mg xanax upjohns and 25 mg of ambien about an hour ago, nothing special so far but we'll see how it goes. I have a naturally high tolerance to drugs in general so don't freak about dosages if that is considered unsafe.
SWIM says it wasnt great.