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Gahaba22
17-09-2004, 22:59
The drug you speak of is lorazepam. It is a benzodiazapene called Ativan. It is used for anxiety and seizures. It is a medium duration acting downer which has a shorter half life than valium. They are not quite as dangerous as xanax due to the relatively longer half-life that Ativan has over xanax. I would predominately use these to come down off of harder, stimulant-like drugs.
Thanks,
Geeb
Gahaba22
17-09-2004, 23:01
Sorry I forgot to address a couple of your questions. Snorting it would just decrease the time it took to take effect. Since it is a small pill, other than the obvious nasal mucousal damage, it lend itself to snorting tather well.
Well is the effect anygood alone or with MJ?I just snorted a few about 5 minutes ago guess I'll know soon enough.
taking on there own gives simerla efect to valium i would not recomend snorting pharmacitucal pills as they have alot of other things in them to. you could take with few cans of beer or other alcohol for diffirent effect.
asystole
29-03-2005, 09:17
From what I remember, benzos are not generally water soluble, and are not effective insufflated. I'll *find out* and let you know for sure.
I would suggest letting them dissolve under your tongue.
Stan Mar5h
29-12-2005, 01:05
I took 1mg of Lorazepam (would have taken more, but all I had were very few 0.5mg pills, and was in a position were I didn't want anyone to notice I took some) and had some mild euphoria, nothing special. Anyone have any experience with Loraze, and if so, how many to start feeling trippy (in a good way)? Also, I found some Amitryptiline, anyone have any experience with that?
People might be more familiar with the brand name of lorazepam, Ativan.
I have some experience with it (both medically and recreationally).
Medically I was prescribed 1 mg to be taken at bedtime (along with .5 mg of Klonopin/clonazepam twice a day) to help with my insomnia. It didn't help and my doctor didn't realize that the normal dose range for insomnia is 2 - 4 mg so he wouldn't go any higher.
I've never done it recreationally, but I know some people who have. There are three ways which I have seen it sucessfully used:
1) 1-3mg swallowed and 30 minutes later a lot of weed, the lorazepam will help with the paranoia associated with smoking too much and it will help you chill out even more
2) 3mg-8mg swallowed to get really fucked up, the higher the dose the more difficult it is to walk, talk, ect... With lorazepam at high doses some people may feel nausous
3) 1-3mg with a stimulant (Adderall, coke, ect..)
It's good alone and it's good mixed with things. Don't mix it with alcohol unless you are a very experienced user. Mixing it with alcohol and another drug is asking for trouble, especially if you do not know what you are doing. Alcohol and benzodiazpines are both downers and do not mix well.
Amitryptiline also known as Elavil is an anti-depressant with sedative effects. I don't think it has any recreational value beyond helping people come down or go to sleep (because of its sedative effects) after taking another drug.
basehead801
30-12-2005, 04:46
ive done them a few times before the 1mg's the first time i did it i took idk 3 at first an i took 1 or 2 more i dont remember it was pretty good. though i like xanax more btw i used to have a big tolerence so be wary ive also taken 5mg an drank around 1/3 bottle of rum and i was wasted
SWIM has done 5-7mg lorazepam recreationally, usually with alcohol (up to 1/2 bottle dark rum with lime): NOT recommended, but she has never really gotten much off benzos without the booze. Lorazepam has never really seemed that special to her. Valium gives her an incredibly insulated/fluffy/wrapped in cotton-woolness, and she has had wonderful (weird) out of body experiences. Lorazepam seemed far more sedating and didn't give her any euphoria, or any where near the altered-stateness of Valium. She has also had bad hangover effects from Lorazepam: Thick and woolyheaded for a couple of days afterwards. Really not able to function.
As with any benzo, adding some weed really changes things, SWIM has hallucinated quite hard, but then she does with weed anyway.
Her only experience with Amitryptiline is for depression, and she had nasty side effects: Dry mouth, blurred vision, constipation and urinary retention!
scotty6435
09-01-2006, 21:41
Just did my first lorazepam last night (2mg) and it hits in like 30 mins and is really nice. I lost some co-ordination but felt extremely relaxed for several hours. Note that an hour before I took 10mg valium and an our after, 50mg tramadol. An ambien to finish the night was awesome for it's knock-out-no-matter-what-i-ness :D
january16
18-01-2006, 21:16
I've been taking them to go to sleep for about a week or two and it seems like they don't do ANYTHING. I've taken 2mg and nothing's happened. How many would you take to at least feel SOME kind of a buzz?
Gahaba22
18-01-2006, 21:50
A person taking Benzos on a daily basis will most likely develop a tolerance rather quickly. Taking Ativan for recreational purposes you would PROBABLY need 3-4mgs or more to feel a buzz. You should be careful increasing the dosage because of the tremendous CNS depression achieved with benzos.
geeb
pharmapsyche
31-01-2006, 18:20
SWIM has had a few different experiences with Lorazepam. The reason you've heard it's like Valium is most likely because they are both classifed as benzodiazepines. You take smaller doses of Lorazepam then Valium, because Lorazepam is much stronger. Valium is one of the weakest benzodiazpines out there, while Lorazepam is actually pretty strong. Lorazepam is defiantly one of SWIM's faviorate benzo's because of it's not as strong as xanax, but as strong or a little stronger than Clonazepam. It is most commonly prescribed for insomina, and from experience SWIM agree's it's great for sleep!
Swim was hooked on those lil bastards for 6 months :D
Got the 2.5 mg ones.
Great for sleeping as well, but in larger amounts.
First when SWIm had no tolerance, 5 mg put him to sleep fast.
But after a few months, swim had to take 10-12 mg, so SWIM deceided to quit with Lorazepam and switch to something diffirent.
As for recreational use, i would advise taking 3 - 5 mg.
It makes you feel relaxed and a bit sedated.
roidrage
09-02-2006, 19:40
i got some of these for free of a guy telling me put in a girls drink to test(he's a idiot i know) 2mg tab didnt do much for me so tryed 4mg next time felt pretty good for about an hour after it kicked in then felt too fucked to be enjoyable, tryed 6mg afew days later n puts me to sleep pretty easy...wasnt easy for me to walk up the stairs andpeople found it hard to understand me
im gunna ask the doctor for some of these since i know they work and ive only been sleeping ever second night which is fucking my mma training up badly
pharmapsyche
09-02-2006, 23:44
Lorazepam is a pretty sweet anxiolytic. IMO, it's not the best benzodiazepine for sleep. It's actions are primarily myorelaxant, anxiolytic and amnesiac. Of course, any benzo will help you sleep. FYI, 1 milligram of lorazepam is equivalent to 10 milligrams of diazepam. I looked at two different charts and they both said that. Also, lorazepam is well absorbed from the GI tract so there is no need to sniff 'em. I know it's tempting, but it's likely to be a waste. Of course, you could have somatic effects, if you sniff 'em, due to the placebo effect.
alanp007
24-02-2006, 17:06
Ok, i have read sooo many mixed reactions about this stuff. The only place I know where SWIM can get xanax or klonopins is in mesquite, and i dont always have a ride out there (or money to get them), but SWIM has a friend who has a lot of ativan that they do not take and will give to SWIM for free. SWIM tried them, I think SWIM ended up taking 4 of the 2 mg pills and drank a few beers with them (i pill ID'd it on the internet, looked at the bottle, it WAS ativan). Absolutely nothing at all happened. No buzz, no nothing. The next day, SWIM had horrible problems with their jaw, and couldnt stop grinding my teeth. I dont know if this is just SWIM's crazy fucked up body from taking too many coricidin years ago, but i just really want to know about these damn ativan, SWIM is cravin some benzo's and I wanna know why 8 mg of ativan would do absolutely nothing (especially with beer) when i read the recreational dose is 1-3mg. Can someone please comment on this?
thx
motorhead
24-02-2006, 19:06
In swims experience, he only took it once but knows plenty who take it often, ativan doesnt really get you "high". It just kind of mellows one out. Although swim doesnt really care for benzo's that much, diazapam isnt all that bad.
There are lots of discussions on this if you use the search engine.
Here is a start.
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2610
SWIM has always found Lorazepam to be terribly sedating (with a big thick hangover head the next day). She has never really understood people talking about getting "high" off Benzos. If you're taking them to get "high" (ie: up/stimulated/hyper) then you're chasing the wrong feeling. What do people mean by high? If they're talking altered state then Benzos will do it: It's Mellow/Chilled/Calm/Insulated.
What is your tolerance? That can really effect the feeling.
swim finds ativan to be roughly effective in the 1-3 mg range. some others swim knows have claimed that they have felt no effects with up to 4-5 mg. these individuals however were few and swim does not know many who have experimented with lorazepam. swim has seen several others with no reaction at one but is this really a surprise...? barbiturates are better anyways...
SWIM's friend just told me that he took 2.0 mg today and is feeling pretty fucked up from it. SWIM's friend says he has not been smoking much at all and had one hit of pretty good reefer about 10-20 minutes before the pills but feels that the ativan was mostly responsible for the response. he plans to supplent another .5 and see the difference... swim will relay this information when it becomes available of course.
bewilderment
31-03-2006, 22:14
Wow, 8mg didn't do anything? I've taken 7mg before and completely blacked out...ativan apparently has a reputation of causing such a reaction. I think that ativan does a pretty good job of relieving anxiety, but it kind of sucks as a recreational drug (just my preference). In any case, be pretty careful with taking dosages that high just in case it does actually work eventually.
update on swim's ativan adventure:good body feeling... relaxed... quite stoned... this drug is good at this level. clearly it is not a good idea to start with ridiculous dosages as upwards of 5 mg - 10 mg... functional at this point... still ramping up from the spike... i could see complete beligerence and inability to communicate at anything above 5 mg, also likely motor impairment
honestly: SWIMs conclusion thus far... considering potency lorazepam has it all over diazepam
Ativan is prescribed to a lot of recovering drug addicts for anxiety if any benzo is due mostly to the fact that it has far less euphoric effects and "high" or stoned effects as many of its family of benzos
Ativan is SWIMS favourite benzo. It makes SWIM mellow and cozy but not high per se. SWIM has never gotten high from any benzo and really can't imagine how a benzo high would feel like.
Ativan should really be used in 1-2mg range or else you get too sedated. In SWIMs book ativan is superior to any other benzo SWIM has tried (oxazepam, xanax, diazepam, nitrazepam...).
Unlike the other benzos SWIM rarely get any hangover the next day from ativan (depending on when SWIM administered the dose of course).
However the subjective effects of different benzos seem highly individual so no way of knowing unless you try it.
For SWIM 1mg + some beers makes for a nice, calm and cozy evening.
Just start low with this one.
RealGanjaMan
08-04-2006, 08:44
SWIM has always found Lorazepam to be terribly sedating (with a big thick hangover head the next day). She has never really understood people talking about getting "high" off Benzos. If you're taking them to get "high" (ie: up/stimulated/hyper) then you're chasing the wrong feeling. What do people mean by high? If they're talking altered state then Benzos will do it: It's Mellow/Chilled/Calm/Insulated.
What is your tolerance? That can really effect the feeling.
I think when people talk about getting "high" off benzo's, they simply mean being in a state of intoxication (even though this isn't the correct use for the word).
i thought that high and intoxicated were roughly equivalent terms
SWIM has gotten the impression that some people actually get euphoric on benzos and thus use the term "high". This could be people that are depressed and thus get 'normal/euphoric' on benzos.
SWIM would use the word intoxicated when describing the effects of benzos (and alcohol).
junglistNside
13-04-2006, 18:34
ativan is an excellent booster for pain medication. While in the hopsital after choping off a few fingers, there were times when the dilaudid drip wouldnt cut through the pain, afte 4mg of ativan was administered in addition the meds were much more effective, this does however send the aptient right to sleep. From which the nurses wake them up every half hour to check respiratory function. Benzos and opiates are a dangerous mix, even in medical situations and must be closely monitored
swim used to get 2mg a night to sleep perscribed by there doc they done there job for a while.
BlueMystic
25-05-2006, 05:48
Amitryptalline has absolutely no recreational value.
swim was wondering why not as its a benzo and they can all be abused recreationaly or a variaty of feelings cant they. i thought thats why g.p where carefull as to who and how many benzo's they perscribe to.
BlueMystic
27-05-2006, 06:40
Amitriptyline (Elavil) is classified as an antidepressant. Its method of action is as of yet not known. Not considered a 'friendly' drug.
Lorazepam is one the few benzo's out there that can be used recreationally (alltough SWM does NOT recommend to use them recreationally), but that's just in SWIM's experience.
He doesn't understand what people find so great about Xanax and Ambien :-s
BUZZFACTOR
29-06-2006, 23:30
swim lets ativan dissolve under his tongue for fastest onset. was prescribed elavil for sleeping has no buzzfactor other than sedation
Fantasian
04-07-2006, 19:18
swim was wondering why not as its a benzo and they can all be abused recreationaly or a variaty of feelings cant they. i thought thats why g.p where carefull as to who and how many benzo's they perscribe to.
Amitriptyline is not a benzodiazepine it is a tryclic antidepressant, it has no recreational effects. It sometimes give dried mouth, blurred vision and a sedating hangover effect. It can cause death very easily when used in high dosages by causes rapid overdrive of the heart. Doctors are advised that they do not prescribe it to potentially suicidal depressed patients.
sorry i misunderstood i was geting mixed up with some of the information in the posts
TheTrueBlackMeat
05-07-2006, 08:24
SWIM is currently withdrawing off his 1mg at night prescribed Lorazepam. SWIM weened down for four days prior on only half a milligram before going cold turkey. He is six days cold turkey and currently wigged out with bits of muscle spasms, inability to sleep, anxiety, weird body buzzes, and so forth. However, SWIM had been taking his medication for a year so this is understandable. He is riding out the withdrawal trip as best he can.
Lorazepam is a worthwhile drug, but becoming addicted to lots of it would not be recommended, as withdrawals from strong benzodiazepene addictions can be fatal. SWIM's addiction is small enough that he can just go cold turkey and ride it out.
Abrupt withdrawal from benzos makes your brain overactive because benzos affect GABA, which affects about 40% of your brain. If your brain doesn't recieve the benzo, all those neurons will fire that much faster, and that's why heavy addictions and abrupt withdrawals lead to seizures.
In these times SWIM recommends codeine or other tranquilizing agents (aside from benzos) to smooth the brain, and lay the crawling flesh to rest. Let us hope that the waves of cold flesh and bouts of sweat subside.
It could be worse for SWIM. He could be hooked on smokes too, but luckily he quit a long time ago. He is hauled up in his room, shaking with the midnight jitters, drug spirits trying to microwave his soul, but he is vigilant. Those hallucinations aren't his friends! He feasts slowly on a box of child-kibble called Cheerios, trash strewn about the floor, what monster has made its nest here? What strange war of hemispheres has spilled out of the body? "Pills, pills, pills..." the organs whisper licking the outer saran-wrap. The arm is jerking on its own. But, you won't escape... We're stuck together...
Forthesevenlakes
05-07-2006, 08:33
SWIM is currently withdrawing off his 1mg at night prescribed Lorazepam. SWIM weened down for four days prior on only half a milligram before going cold turkey. He is six days cold turkey and currently wigged out with bits of muscle spasms, inability to sleep, anxiety, weird body buzzes, and so forth. However, SWIM had been taking his medication for a year so this is understandable. He is riding out the withdrawal trip as best he can.
Lorazepam is a worthwhile drug, but becoming addicted to lots of it would not be recommended, as withdrawals from strong benzodiazepene addictions can be fatal. SWIM's addiction is small enough that he can just go cold turkey and ride it out.
Abrupt withdrawal from benzos makes your brain overactive because benzos affect GABA, which affects about 40% of your brain. If your brain doesn't recieve the benzo, all those neurons will fire that much faster, and that's why heavy addictions and abrupt withdrawals lead to seizures.
In these times SWIM recommends codeine or other tranquilizing agents (aside from benzos) to smooth the brain, and lay the crawling flesh to rest. Let us hope that the waves of cold flesh and bouts of sweat subside.
It could be worse for SWIM. He could be hooked on smokes too, but luckily he quit a long time ago. He is hauled up in his room, shaking with the midnight jitters, drug spirits trying to microwave his soul, but he is vigilant. Those hallucinations aren't his friends! He feasts slowly on a box of child-kibble called Cheerios, trash strewn about the floor, what monster has made its nest here? What strange war of hemispheres has spilled out of the body? "Pills, pills, pills..." the organs whisper licking the outer saran-wrap. The arm is jerking on its own. But, you won't escape... We're stuck together...swim says this is good advice except for supplementing the benzo withdrawal with codeine. if swiy has constant access to painkillers, they will soon find that opiate withdrawal, while not potentially lethal, is no more fun than benzo withdrawal.
swim has taken 3 mg and we will see where it goes... the fuzzyness is there but the madness is not... there is always an underlying level of mental instability for swim when he uses lorazepam. dont know why quite. very much like being drunk without having to feel like shit for doing it.
(< (< :snort: (< :smoker:
oh yes... it goes... it goes very well... motor coordination slightly tweaked... buzzed heavy and loving it,,, none of the real crazies yet but the mood shift is clearly taking its effect,,,
kellydgkh
14-07-2006, 05:47
An old friend of mine stole a bottle of 100 loraz. from her job at the pharmacy. swim began taking them daily, stealing from her friend, got kicked out of her house, almost failed high school, wrecked her friends car (ran into the back of a stopped vehicle at a red light) and eventually ended up getting gang raped. swim lost a big part of her life and has severe memory impairment.
TheTrueBlackMeat
15-07-2006, 19:03
An old friend of mine stole a bottle of 100 loraz. from her job at the pharmacy. swim began taking them daily, stealing from her friend, got kicked out of her house, almost failed high school, wrecked her friends car (ran into the back of a stopped vehicle at a red light) and eventually ended up getting gang raped. swim lost a big part of her life and has severe memory impairment.
I think being stupid can get you into trouble.
kellydgkh
15-07-2006, 23:31
Stupidity is stating the obvious
TheTrueBlackMeat
29-07-2006, 05:14
An old friend of mine stole a bottle of 100 loraz. from her job at the pharmacy. swim began taking them daily, stealing from her friend, got kicked out of her house, almost failed high school, wrecked her friends car (ran into the back of a stopped vehicle at a red light) and eventually ended up getting gang raped. swim lost a big part of her life and has severe memory impairment.
You labelled the post along the lines of, "Lorazepam can get you into trouble." Effectively I took this as a statement blaming the drug, and not the person, for their actions.
Your friend was stupid and ignorant. A person who pretends they can't stop taking drugs is really just a weiner, because it comes down to decisiveness. When your friend quits drugs, he/she will just trade it in for another addiction, probably religion or N.A. meetings.
So, have you gotten off the Lorazepam yet? You're being too offended by my post for someone that says it's their friend. If 'stupidity is stating the obvious', then why state did you state that?
kellydgkh
30-07-2006, 06:28
It is not my friend but you who is ignorant. You know nothing about addiction and therefore should not make judgements about it. I did not say that Loraz is a bad drug, I was simply staing that it can have bad side effects if not used properly. Side effects can include severe confusion and anterograde amnesia. I personally have been prescribed the drug and also experienced confusion and memory loss. Why are you arguing with me when I have first hand experience and extensive knowledge of the drug? What is your point in this discussion? Mine is just to warn the unsuspecting of what could happen and to be careful.
Fantasian
31-07-2006, 23:46
Andi your questions arn't really on Lorazepam at all, If you want to get a valid answer you should post in the correct forum. Your question concerns recovery and addiction of meth.
IF i were you i would post in the addiction and recovery forum, it's where the post you just wrote most belongs.
ReynardTheFox
02-08-2006, 09:28
My friend Bob stole a few bottles of 1mg Lorazepam a few years ago. He used to work as a delivery driver, and one of his regular drops was a university pharmacy store. Once in a while a box would go missing. Anyhoo, he says he found them mostly sedating, not much recreational value. He gave away a load to friends, once in a while they'd get used as a sleep aid or to aid the comedown from a coke session. On the whole though he never really felt compelled to take them, and eventually ended up flushing a whole load down the toilet!
Slim Daniels was in the his garden that day, that Monday was watering the San Pedros day.
Slim looked around at everything wishing he could see it all at once, just for the hell of it. A smoke was lit.
"A little water for you and you..." Slim mused inwardly.
Suddenly he was aware of a sharp pain that hadn't quite made itself fully known. Sort of like when someone kicks you in the balls and you know what is in the cards for you.
“Holy Fuck!” he slapped his left arm with the reflexes of a cat on amphetamines. It seems a black wasp had met its maker.
“It was a good day to die it seems,” he cackled threw his cigarette, smoldering away.
Into his house he went to dress the wound; a large red spot with dark lines running out in all directions; Poisoned. Slim cleaned the wound and dressed it confident that it was nothing to be concerned with. Or was it? He was getting worried, worried he might have a problem!
“Fucking insect! You won't bring me down!” he shot to the meds lockup, throwing the door open where the pill man slept. He grabbed the Lorazepam prescribed for the heebie-jibbies.
“1mg to ease the demon.” He washed it down with the only thing he had in sight, some couch syrup. He doubted if there was ever even a cherry used in the making of that liquid.
Slim went about his daily chores of playing games and mastering the art of chip dipping when he got worried, worried something was wrong and he knew it. He ran back to the pills on a mission for sanity. “I'll take care of this!” he mumbled, throwing his smoke in the toilet. Two pills went sliding down his gullet leaving a chemical tasting funk along the way.
Time passed and he had forgotten about the whole thing. TV has a way of doing that, the best drug invented. He became aware that he was not alone. The shadow people were back!
“I thought I killed all you fuckers but you just don't get it!” Slim tried to get a bead on his enemy but they were too quick! The shadows know to hide well, you know. Slim turned on all the lights to keep them at bay. “Thought I'd forgotten that trick didn't you! Bring it on, Slim's ready!” he loaded up his 9 lives making sure the safety was on then sat down to his game. Suddenly the room moved! Like a boat on the waves!
“What tha fuck is going on!” he jumped up only to fall down as a wave rolled over the carpet knocking him to his feet. Slim didn't know what to do, this wasn't right! “The fucking wasp did this to me! I'll kill his whole family for this one!”
Gravity went away like it had never been there. the TV, couch, and brink n' brack all found there way into the air.
“Poisoned!” he clutched his head knowing that he could not drive out the unwanted guest. He decided to lay down as he was now imprisoned in a delusion. Even a delusion can kill those unaware of the truth of it all.
He looked out over his covers, people were popping in and out of the walls! Old friends and family! The bed rolled up and down to meet the ceiling and the ceiling danced for joy just to spite poor Slim. It all became to much and the spirits of the shadows called on the sand man to do his duty.
... Slim awoke. “What just fucking happened! My fathers been dead for years! Why was he in my face! And who let in the Shadow people!”
Slim ran to the pills and took a better look at the bottle. “warning: Lorazepam may cause hallucinations over 2mg”
“mother fucker!” slim slapped his forehead, lit a smoke, and filed yet another spirit quest away.
deadhead
16-08-2006, 21:27
For SWIM this is most dull benzo of them all, and SWIM tends to get agressive/amnesic by doing medium/high doses lorazepam. Triazolam also puts SWIM that way most times.
SWIM finds it very dull.
warandhate
19-08-2006, 20:59
Swim has tried a few lorazzzies for bedtime and they work pretty well with some booze. Swim ate three .5mg pillz at beginning of a party nite and at the end swim saw two of most everything. But in the case of bedtime swim reccomends as they are faster acting and wont keep you lazy the next day with a small dose...