drug used for wisdom teeth: Diazepam?

[chillinwill]

someone told me that valium is used the morning before you go get your wisdom teeth out to help you relax. im not talking about the painkillers afterwards but the drug you take before you go for the operation. when i had mine out, the drug i took that morning before i got my wisdom teeth out made me feel totally drunk. is this valium or is it another drug?

[Nagognog2]

I never was given anything for a tooth extraction beforehand. You have a pill-happy dentist! As to your question - ask the doctor what he have you. It's certainly your right to know.

[triptonaut]

Haha, I know what you've experienced. I have taken all my 4 goddamn wisdomteeth out so they gave me some 'stuff' :D as well. They gave me a mask and a needle for in my arm, and then it reminded me of the first steps of an ether binge. The nurge was like, 'you are getting very sleepy in a few minutes', and ike 5 seconds after she said that I was really sleepy and she said 'ow you are feeling it already', lol. I don't know if this was her way to make me comfortable, it did work actually. From that moment on, the next I knew was the room were I was sleeping, 3 houres later.

[chillinwill]

Haha, I know what you've experienced. I have taken all my 4 goddamn wisdomteeth out so they gave me some 'stuff' :D as well. They gave me a mask and a needle for in my arm, and then it reminded me of the first steps of an ether binge. The nurge was like, 'you are getting very sleepy in a few minutes', and ike 5 seconds after she said that I was really sleepy and she said 'ow you are feeling it already', lol. I don't know if this was her way to make me comfortable, it did work actually. From that moment on, the next I knew was the room were I was sleeping, 3 houres later.

i took a pill like an hour before i went to go get my 4 wisdom teeth out. i think they also gave me laughing gas also once i got in the room because i remember them putting a mask over me.

[triptonaut]

Laughing gas, isn't that more for operations were you are still conscious? Don't know for sure...

[IHrtHalucingens]

i dont think so, i had a tooth pulled once and they only thing i got was a mask for the laughing gas, and i was unconcious for the whole thing.

[Zandorf]

if you wore a mask and lost consciousness you were given a general aneasthetic, not nitrous oxide. That's for when you remain conscious during the procedure. When i had mine out i was given local aneasthetic in the form of an injection in the back of my jaw inside my mouth and then nitrous.

if you were given a pill beforehand to help relax you it was most likely a benzodiazepine of some sort, quite possibly valium. I've never heard of anything like this before. When i had more major surgeries i was always injected with a sedative, i can't recall the name now, it was one i hadn't heard of before.

[IHrtHalucingens]

hmm, maybe i was givin something else, it was when i was much younger, i do know i was given laughing gas, but i guess i was also given somethign else, good to know! thanks

[Sky Walker]

Edit: I thought wrong.

[radiometer]

There are several dentists in my area who advertise "knock-out pill" anaesthesia...no injection, no gas, just "one tiny pill". I'm really curious about which drug are they using for this. They seem to make a point of not advertising the name of the drug.

[chillinwill]

There are several dentists in my area who advertise "knock-out pill" anaesthesia...no injection, no gas, just "one tiny pill". I'm really curious about which drug are they using for this. They seem to make a point of not advertising the name of the drug.

yeah they gave me one pill that basically knocked me out. i think it was a circular white pill but i dont remember anything else about it except that i felt drunk in like 15-20 min and felt pretty damn good

[IHrtHalucingens]

ive been searching around and it is hard to find what they use, i did find this tho:

What medications are used for Dental Oral Sedation?
The most common medication is Halcion (triazolam). Halcion provides a deep level of relaxation and amnesia effect.
For children the most common medication is Versed (Medazolan) which is a liquid.

Here's how nap dentistry works. Patients take a pill at home an hour prior to their dental appointment. In Horgan's case the pill was a sedative called triazolam. It made her too drowsy to drive, so her husband, George, shuttled her to and from her appointment.

Once she arrived in Rotem's office, she was hooked up to a small monitor, which allowed the dentist to keep an eye on her pulse and blood oxygen level during the dental work. Then, she downed a second pill containing more triazolam.

Horgan would end up taking three .25 mg doses of the medication, a generic form of Halcion, which is primarily used as a sleeping pill. Rotem said he chooses this sedative because it is rapidly absorbed and eliminated by the body. But the medication also carries warnings for pregnant women and is potentially habit-forming.

"Some people may not need to take three pills. Everybody's a little different when it comes to how they react in the chair," Rotem said.



ive also read that Valium is used as well.

so i guess it depends on ur dentist, but triazolam seems to be the pill of choice.

[788.4]

White Halcion/triazolam is oval shaped. It's also only .125mg. Blues (both brand and generic) are .25mg.

Based on your description of a white round pill that made you feel drunk it is probably one of the follow:

Valiums (both generic and brand name 2mg)
Ativan ( generic either .5mg, 1mg, or 2mg)
Klonopin (generic 2mg).

It's probably not Valium because 2mg is a very low dose. Klonopin isn't very fast acting and it would last much longer than is needed for that procedure. I would guess that it was Ativan because it's really fast acting (15 minutes) and dosn't last too long for this situation.

[Nagognog2]

Call the office and inquire. Now you've piqued my curiosity. They have to tell you by law. However, do understand, most dentists became dentists because they flunked out of medical school.

[Phungushead]

I had my wisdom teeth taken out about 7 years ago. Now, note that this
was done by an oral surgeon, not a normal dentist... they gave me 2 valiums
(and yes, I'm positive they were valium) - one to take the night before, and
one to take the morning of. I am not sure they do this for everyone though,
apparently I got them because I have a very intense fear of needles and
shit like that, and I told them so beforehand.

[Ninja Master]

they gave me nitrus because i said i was afraid of death directly before they gave me the shot. they had a video saying you could die. what ever the shot is, they shot me, and i could feel it rapidly over come me. he said do you feel it? i said im on fire, and i could feel echos and vibrations and actualy became them as i stepped into outerspace. what ever it was, it was fucking beautiful. i could of snapped my fingers and 40 minutes had passed by while i was infinate. they woke me up, and tears started to stream from my eyes. im not saying the river of tears was from pain as i was totaly numb. what ever they did to me, well i could use several syringes of that. (they said it was a mild seditive and not what they put people under with for hard core type surgery as in heart surgery)

Z

[Benga]

I've had wisdom teeth roots taken out more than 15 years ago, but none of the setup described above. It was done by a dentist, 2 operations, one for the right side (upper jaw, lower jaw) and one for the left jaw. I remember counting 11 injections, the later ones (after local anesthesia had started )going really deep (not painful but really uncomfortable) since they have to drill inside the jaw bone to extract the roots. It was 11 pre-operation injections (took a while, more than 30 minutes prep.), then the work began (drilling into the bone, horrible sound and pretty nasty feeling), with regular boosters if there was any pain.
when I got home and the anesthetics began wearing off it became really painful, but I was given some strong pain killers ( nothing fancy, Dextropropoxyphene stuff). The horrible thing was knowing that I had to go back and do the other side the next week or so...you guys and swims were lucky to have had such experiences...

[joachimist]

i've had my wisdom teeth taken out 2years ago, by a simple dentist, using injections of lidocaine (Xylocaine brand name), as for all others teeth extraction i've had (lot of)

The dentist always ask me if i still feel something or if it's ok, and i always answer that i need more, even if i don't fell any pain, until i feel really stone.
Because i don't like dentist but i love getting stoned

I remember after my second wisdom extractions when i got up after he had finish, i suddently felt totaly stoned, everything was moving in every directions, i couldn't stand up, of course i couldn't speak, i was hearing the sounds like if i was far away in a tunnel, my face was paralized. i managed to sit down, and the doctor was asking me questions about my social security number and other things i couldn't understand at all. Then i closed my eyes and got in a mystic place wich could have been a neant full of colors, and he finally realised that i was tripping far, completly out of reallity, so he took me to a bed (i don't remember it) and took my phone to call a friend to pick me up.
When my friend arrive (30min later) i was back to reallity, just little stoned.

i had taken good LSD the day before.

Few months after, a friend of a friend stole a bottle of lidocaine from his doctor, and he gave me some. He was using it to cut cocaine (not a good idea), i've use it a few times to get stoned but the buzz isn't comfortable, but it can be just fun to get your noze or your mouth anesthesied, if you really don't have anything more interesting to do.

[FrankenChrist]

They gave me a xanax beforehand which made me feel really chill. Everything became ridiculous.

[junkcaffine]

i have some xylocaine i got for my tooth....
_jo_ don't be so hasty maybe theres SOMETHING we can do with it
swim wil;l keep the bottle...is an extraction possible??
might be good for sex....hehe

[IHrtHalucingens]

In my experience you want as much feeling as possible during sex, it seems that lidocaine would take away the exact feeling your having sex for in the first place. Unless you just want to last like 5 hours, but if thats the case SWIM suggests cocaine. It allows you to go that long and also gives you the energy to do so.

[pankreeas]

cocaine?? crashing in the dentists chair.. what a nightmare


when swim had his out it was 5 years go at the local hospital. in and out in 20 min, general anaesthasea, bottle of t3's, and 6 percs, 3 days later was good to go.

[D.U.M.B]

SWIM is given a whiskey just before someone pulls the tooth out with a string

[OccularFantasm]

SWIM had his wisdom teeth out a year and a half ago. SWIM wasn't shown any videos or given any pills. SWIM got some sort of injection, which swim could feel burn all the way down his veins. The lady said swim was gonna o under. The next thing swimr emember is waking up not realizing anything hapened. About 30 seconds later swim was in excruciating pain. Apparently they never gave any sort of painkiller beforehand. They gave swim a cople vicodin. SWIM yelled at them the best he could for barely being able to move his mouth. From all these stories swim is beginning to think he should go kill his old oral surgen.

[moda00]

BUMP! :)

Swim was going to post about dental procedures and benzodiazepines but found this searching..

To weigh in on the discussion.. Nitrous oxide is usually given in a nasal mask or face mask, with maximum 50% nitrous and the rest oxygen. It is often given along with general anesthesia because they want to chill you out before sticking a needle in you to do the actual anesthesia. It is quite possible that they might have a general anesthesia that can be given solely as a mask, but in swim's experience, they do tend to use nitrous/oxygen masks both on its own for relaxation during simple procedures in which one is awake and/or locally anesthetized, but will also use it for pre-treatment when administering something via a needle (many people are weird about needles) or other potentially stressful procedure.

As for the benzodiazepine use, it is very possible they gave swiy a benzodiazepine to take before coming in. Some dentist and doctors use a combination of a benzodiazepine and an opioid drug in an iv during surgeries and such to take care of both sedation and pain management both.. But dental procedures generally utilize local anesthesia rather than opiates for controlling the pain, which makes sense as they are working on a very specific area for a very short time in most cases. (And then the opioid drug is often given as a take-home/prescription to deal with mild pain after the local anesthesia wears off)

While some dentists may certainly use a small dose of benzodiazepine drugs to "pre-treat" a patient and sedate them prior to a general anesthesia procedure such as wisdom teeth removal (well, usually is general, although back in the day it wasn't always, and I'm sure someone could elect for local if they really wanted to suffer..) the main use of benzodiazepines in dentistry is sedation dentistry as mentioned. This is a fairly new concept, mainly for patients with severe phobias of the dentist and/or a need for extensive work that they want done quickly and painlessly. This prevents needing general anesthesia, which is generally considered a lot more risky. In between the "conscious oral sedation" by oral benzodiazepines and the knocking-out of general anesthesia is iv sedation- generally the same drug as given orally, mainly is triazolam but can vary, only diven intravenously. This allows for them to adjust the dose instantaneously for a consistent and easily controlled level of sedation, and can allow them to safely administer a slightly higher dose to a patient with a high tolerance or lack of effect with oral doses and/or those who are extremely phobic and need a bit higher level of sedation (but still want to avoid general anesthesia, which again is more risky and which I believe requires an anesthesiologist in most cases) With oral conscious sedation, nitrous is generally used in conjunction with the benzodiazepine.

Swim's experience with this procedure is as follows. They keep the pills at the office, so it's not like they are writing a prescription and you fill it at a real pharmacy. They generally are good about telling you what's in there and labeling the jars or envelopes containing the pills, but swim could see how someone might not know if they forgot to tell him or he didn't ask- I'm sure not every dentist is as conscientious of making patients aware of this, although they really should be in checking for drug interactions and making sure swiy knows the risk and benefits and effects of the drug. In swim's experience you have to go to the clinic a few days before the actual procedure, as you have to pick up your pills and also you are not allowed to exchange money under the influence so you have to pre-pay your portion of the cost before you get all fukked up ;) They usually give you the dose of triazolam for the actual sedation, in addition to a dose of another benzodiazepine to take the night before- this was described as mainly for sleep. It may also carry over as it is a longer lasting benzo, but swim thinks the effects are mainly felt at home asleep, as they say take it no more than 8 hours before the appointment start, and no more than 7 hours before ingestion of the morning pill, the triazolam. For swim they gave her 15mg diazepam for sleep (3 of the 5mg ones- which she doesn't really need, she sleeps all the time, but whatever) and then 0.25 mg triazolam for the morning. Say your appointment is at 9:00 am. You take the diazepam before bed, say at 10pm, sleep for nine and a half hours and get up at 7:30 am. You then take your triazolam pill an hour before appt start time, so take it at 8:00 am orally/swallow with water (and to be entirely truthful here, swim also happened to take a 0.5 clonazepam at that time.. no she is not recommending it, it was quite stupid in retrospect, and probably didn't make much of a difference compared to the potency of the triazolam, but she is terrified of dentists and was afraid she wouldn't be sedated enough and they wouldn't care. Now she knows they are super cool and accommodating, and will use the benzos and the nitrous to make absolutely sure you are comfortable, so no need to supplant the supply with one's own benzos, as this could create complications in accurate dosing and such). You can't eat or drink anything for twelve hours before the procedure with the exception of water with the pills. You have to have someone agree to babysit you so you don't do anything dumb and sue the dentist.. or something like that. The person has to sign to be responsible for you and drive you to and from the dentist. You will start feeling a bit loopy but will still be conscious and in control and appear normal. You go to the dentist and they get you situated with headphones or tv and blankets and pillows and whatever you want.. well, within reason.. no free drugs or blowjobs or five course meals or anything, lol, but they do take pretty good care of you.. Then they give you the nitrous mask and let you chill on that for awhile, then they ask how you feel and give you more triazolam if you want it, either right then or anytime during the early parts of the appointment, they give you the second and/or third pills under your tongue (sublingual) so they kick in faster. Then they do stuff in your mouth while you zone out.. ;) Swim remembers getting there and talking to them, and she remembers like two five second portions of the appointment (which was apparently 4.5 hours), and then she remembers most of leaving the clinic- her friend kept trying to hold her hand and was afraid she was going to fall or something, cause they made her all paranoid and made her sign the paperwork, but swim was fine and she was like leave me alone I can walk, lol. And she remembers everything about going out to lunch and taking a bath and then going to lay down at which point she passed out for like the rest of the day. The cool thing is that you are totally functional and able to communicate and move and according to swim's "babysitter" she seemed quite normal and alert, but she thinks that triazolam must have a stronger affect on memory than some other benzos because she couldn't hardly remember anything.. apparently she said a couple weird things, like asking the hygienist if she could she could eat one of those purple tablets that make the plaque purple like they give you when you're little.. so she doesn't remember that but the next day she looked in her purse and she had like four packets of those little purple tablets.. lol. Cost is usually 200-400$ extra for sedation (dental insurance will not usually cover that portion of a bill).. which seems ridiculous given the actual cost of a couple pills of diazepam/triazolam, but swim thinks that it is mainly to cover the extra time it takes to work with the patient, and the extra monitoring and precautions and such, and she personally felt it was well worth it (and she paid it out of her own pocket, so she really does think it is worth it.. she didn't have her parents or boyfriend or insurance pay it, lol), and is getting it done again for the follow up procedure. Every dentist may approach this differently- different protocol, different drugs used, different attitudes- but swim says her experience was the best dental experience ever. Also, swim did not use these services, but her dentist said that for iv sedation/"deep conscious sedation" they use midazolam instead of triazolam, and that when a dentist offers just the nitrous for mild sedation/relaxation it can be considered a type of "sedation dentistry" (also called "sleep dentistry" but that term is quite misleading)- if it is just nitrous/oxygen for minor procedures some dentists will market that as the "Inhalation Sedation" option. In general individual states may have education and certification requirements for dentists practicing sedation, but this varies- I don't think there is a federal standard for this in the U.S. at this time.

Also, not an extensively researched scientific study, but swim did some research on the procedure online before seeking it out, and a website associated with dentistry (Internet Dental Alliance Inc. and 1st DDS.com) did a survey on conscious sedation.. they found that 64% of dentists surveyed in the U.S. offered it, 28% chose not to offer it, and another 8% did not offer it but said they wished they did (mainly felt they were unable due to strict licensing requirements, local laws, etc.) They found that rural dentists were most likely to offer it, followed by suburban, followed by urban (did not state how they distinguished these categories). Also, interestingly, they did a survey on perceptions of gender in dentists and found that in general a very small (17%) felt that women dentists were in general more nurturing than male ones. But among rural dentists 42% felt females were more nurturing- indicating that they seemed to have more traditional values with regard to gender roles- but were also the dentist most likely to offer the new types of "oral conscious sedation." I don't intend to speculate on this, as it is not much to go off of, but swim wouldn't have expected the biggest distinguishing factor in these two surveys would be rural vs. urban (again, not sure how they were classified) as opposed to male vs. female or specialists vs. general dentists in both surveys- the sedation survey and the gender survey. She thinks it would have been interesting if they had asked these dentists to qualify their choices on whether or not to provide the sedation procedures- lucrative financially, easier to work with patients, belief in relief of pain and anxiety, belief in adopting the newest technologies and offerings in the dental field, or other reasons.. as well as asking those who didn't why not- if it was expensive, if they feared health risks, or legal repercussions, some generalized fear of using intoxicating or mind-altering substances, to detract phobic and high-maintenance patients from their practice, etc. The only thing they really specified was that those who didn't offer it but wanted to (8%) said this was so mainly because of tedious certifications and laws that would be impractical in some way- likely for reasons of time, money, or otherwise. She would also be interested in learning more about benzodiazepines use in the dental and medical settings, and how doctors' or dentists' perceptions of these medications influence their attitudes or procedures- and whether their information came from prior knowledge of the substance, or from education specifically related to their field or procedure.

[RaverHippie]

SWIM is about to undergo a diazepam regiment for the same reason. (3) 5mg diazepam pills were issued.

[radiometer]

The Diazepam Regiment:

http://janeknisely.com/images/GodGivenRight_raw.jpg

;)

[ramac]

I'm getting this done soon - getting put on a midazolam drip!

[Politicalchalk]

Swim remembers well his wisdom teeth extraction, ere, most of it. Swim sat in the chair and they got my mouth with the novocaine, let that set in for 10 mins. Than the doc and 2 underlings (god I hope one was trained in anesthesiology!)...the needle in my arm contained fentanyl, no benzodiazepine. SWIM was sent home with w/ 30 hydrocodone/apap tablets, with a refill if needed. In waking up during that state, I remember wanting to get up, but the woman told me to chill for a min and let the dope wear off. Swim pulled out one of those, like, sterile plastic gloves. and again. and again! The woman says "Stop that!" So swim pulled out more until she took the box away. After she left the room, swim, in a hazy state, was looking through drawrers and cabinets and whatever....Swim was in lala land! The woman rushes back in, "Are you looking for drugs or something?!" at which point, she pulled my arm toward the waiting room, where pop was there to pick me up. They also DID have me hooked up to monitors and the like.

After a phone call...

Swim contacted the first local sedation dentist he could find in the area. thanks, google! They said they use triazolam, and versed (midazolam), the latter for a deeper sedation.

[endlessrecital]

Well I was given a combo of ativan and an anti-histamine. I can't remmeber the anti-histamine's name. But it knocked me on my ass so bad the receptionist had to drive me home. I don't even remember the procedure at all. He actually said he had me take too much. But I do really bad at the dentist. So I mean, I'm sure he had my best interest at heart. lol Yeah right.