Opinions - Favorite benzodiazepine POLL: Please Post Your Reasons Why [Archive]

SkUnKaDeLiC

27-10-2005, 11:19

Simple answer: It lasts longer and is more powerful! If anything, the
buzz is a bit better as well. I couldnt say how or why - but it is. It
potentiates the action of opiates more than diazepam... there is plenty
of reasons why i'd prefer mogadon than valium. A few people say they
dont like them as much - but thats only because theyve tried
vals/temazzies so many times and only nitrazepam once or twice. My
dream script would be: diazepam for daytime and nitrazepam for
nighttime (they are more sleepers than vals, but more or less the same
just last longer and are more potent).

Edited by: SkUnKaDeLiC

jesusfreak666er

08-12-2005, 03:19

gotta love em all but a xanibar and a bacardi and coke cant be topped... you tell me...

oggy

08-12-2005, 03:58

Mmmmm Swim likes xanax with dihydocodoneine and a few drinks:) He like kloapin for his anxsity but xanax for high times.

vacant

08-12-2005, 04:33

I love Xanax. It's so warm and fuzzy, especially with a drink or two (but it can be too easy to go overboard and do some really stupid things). It can range from a nice, cozy relaxation to downright intoxication. Ativan is okay, but I think Xanax takes the cake in this one.

IHrtHalucingens

08-12-2005, 06:24

Most definately xanax nothin else compairs in my book. at least for recreational value.

James Kid

04-01-2006, 02:59

You can't beat the buzz of a couple drinks and a valium

u4ic

04-01-2006, 04:04

Serax (oxamepam) is my favorite. It's the most euphoric and least toxic to your liver. It's way underprescribed IMO. Most hmo's pick only a few drugs out of the vast variety available due to politics and money. Often not the best ones.

Nicaine

04-01-2006, 08:56

bonghed

05-01-2006, 02:11

Swim's fav is vallium along with some wine or beers drunk slowy and sum nice bud. Makes for a relaxing night every time when moderated.

Jaded

08-01-2006, 21:54

The right amount of valium is great with some beers but i think xanax beats it overall if taken on its own.

u4ic

13-01-2006, 23:07

Swim loves xanax. He's been taking it for years with no problems. Very small doses are needed. The freaking bottle says to take a 2mg bar 3x a day. Yeah freaking right. Swim only needs .5mg once or maybe twice a day not taken until evening. The other day swim popped a couple 10mg valium. He could barely stay awake and was groggy the whole next day. That stuff sucks because of it's extremely long half-life and half-life of it's metabolites. I can see it working well for someone who wants to be sedated all day long. But for someone who just wants to take the edge off in the evening instead of drinking a beer or two, xanax is way better. Swim wants to get a benzo with an even shorter half-life than xanax prescribed. Something in the hypnotic catagory like halcion or restoril. Speaking of halcion heard from a reputable source that the president takes it. Now that's gotta be some good stuff.

Ruud

14-01-2006, 00:23

Swim takes rather temazepam, it works fast and not as long as valium(diazepam). So it will not build up in your body.

neilspotshop

31-01-2006, 18:56

Swim would have to say he likes temazepam with a few drinks and a smoke best, He also likes xanax but has only tried it a few times. He would not say no to valium ether!

valdez18

04-02-2006, 19:37

i prefer klonopin over most benzos. xanax makes me blackout and valium is a litle too soft, seems like klonopin fits right in between there.

AceOvArts

04-02-2006, 20:21

not tried xanax yet but valium does it for me.

pharmapsyche

04-02-2006, 22:37

SWIM would just like to make a suggestion to everyone who posted about Alprazolam, better known as Xanax, as there favorite benzodiazepine. SWIM enjoy's xanax just as much as everyone else, but for those who enjoy xanax and have never tried Temazepam, I highly suggest you give it a try! A good doseage would be anywhere from around 30mg - 90mg! 90mg. is quite a lot, SWIM wants to add, so if it's your first experience with Temazepam and you take a doseage around 90mg. be ready to be swept off your feet!

jduba

05-02-2006, 00:53

temazepam hands down

raven3davis

05-02-2006, 02:05

Definitely xanax for SWIM. valium just doesnt seem to have that kick to it. SWIM has taken 20mg valium and felt only a barely noticable relaxation. 2mg of xanax is perfect to just chill for a few hours and possibly mix with a blunt. Then SWIM will hit up taco bell and have him a nice little encherito (sp?) and maybe some nachos. Xanax makes eating so damn good along with drinking. Xanax munchies combined with ganja munchies rocks it.

SWIM has never tried rohypnol though but hear it is a very nice benzo. Shorter lasting like xanax.

dr ACE

06-03-2006, 13:24

Valium is old hat its down right lame compare with the more potent benzos available now, royhpnol is 10 times more potent so whats the need 4 Valium? and xanax is defo my favorite

Fantasian

12-03-2006, 14:14

not tried xanax yet but valium does it for me.

Took the words right out of my mouth, Diazepam (valium) is my benzo of choice, SWIM could combine it with alchohol or nearly any other drug to get an enjoyable experience

dr ACE

18-03-2006, 14:18

xanax seems to be edging in front on the poll,it is very effective and has more than just sedating properties to it.it can be quite addictive like Valium and all other benzodiazapines,(edited becuae i was bs'ing there,but if you think about it there must be some gene or weekness that makes 1 more prone than another to becomming addicted no matter what the drug)-d/a-

Jatelka

18-03-2006, 14:54

xanax seems to be edging in front on the poll,it is very effective and has more than just sedating properties to it.it can be quite addictive like Valium to for some people

All benzos are addictive (physically). It doesn't matter who you are: If you take them regularly for as little as 14 consecutive days then there will be some withdrawal. There is no "some people" about it.

Jatelka

23-03-2006, 21:04

kritikal

28-03-2006, 02:57

I must say that Oxazepam takes the cake for me. I have tried Diazepam, Temazepam and Oxazepam.

Oxazepam gives me a nice drunken sway with a good euphoria and i often cant remember what happened the next day except that i enjoyed the experience very much! Goes down very nicely with a beer or two!!

Still experimenting with Diazepam and Temazepam from my recent scripts so i might change my mind later on ;)

psitryp

04-04-2006, 00:34

SWIM have to say lorazepam (ativan) is SWIMs favourite. It gives SWIM a nice cozy feeling without too much sedation.

SWIM doesn't like xanax one bit, just makes him drowsy and results in loss of memory.

Diazepam and nitrazepam just turns SWIM into a sloth. Apathy, strong sedation and long t½ does not make SWIM happy one tiny bit..

Forthesevenlakes

04-04-2006, 01:51

clonazepam feels a bit cleaner to SWIM than valium, it somehow seems less foggy-headed than valium, yet more euphoric, and unlike xanax, SWIM doesn't fall asleep on it. its like the buddhist middle path of benzos.

euthanizeme

25-04-2006, 08:50

Temazepam, no question about it. SWIM feels as if it's somewhat safer than xanax, and tends to enjoy the drunken feeling, without the drawback of stupor.

hh339

25-04-2006, 12:48

swim used to eat white diazepam pills from..hmm..can´t remember..anyway, they were so great but no other valium has satisfied swim. he saved a handful for later and switched to alprazolam which worked like a charm. swim tried lots of different valiums but came to the same conclusion over and over again, the white ones were the only ones that worked, how odd. all valiums were 10 mgs. alprazolam was a real bitch to quit though, so he switched to clonazepam. clonazepam worked really great at all times and they weren´t as hard to quit. clonazepam, you got swims vote! for quality though, swim have to vote in favour of those white diazepam though, but how come all other pills failed? pills pressed too hard? just in the mouth, out the ass?

Jatelka

07-05-2006, 12:43

If voting in this poll please consider posting a short (or long, if SWIY wishes) explanation of why SWIY has voted the way they did!

metatriptical

07-05-2006, 16:39

ativan for anxiety and xanax with a drink or two for a high

Beeker

07-05-2006, 21:02

klonapin

Life enhancing for me. I have horrible social anxiety so I take 2mg before going out. I see no recreational value at all, I tried 4mg and fell asleep.

I can only comment on then Benzo Librium for alcohol withdrawls and the ability to make them dissapear..

trial-x

18-05-2006, 10:09

Favorite is xanax (alprazolam). No benzo SWIM has tried--xanax, ativan, valium, klonopin--has produced a "high" of any sorts. They all enhance the effects of alcohol and make sleepy, to differing degrees. SWIM is prescribed .5mg alprazolam 3x/day. Works best for anxiety and panic attacks. Ativan works best for sleep. Valium for relaxing. Klonopin is ok all around. But Xanax is favorite since it is fast acting and stops anxiety fast.

Silence_Inc

18-05-2006, 10:34

only tried sometimes - Xanax was fun and happy, rhohypnol was fun too - i THINK! - the only thing i remeber was saying to my buddy - " i can't undertsand how you can't remeber all you did the next day, cause if that would be so, than we wouldn't know what we were doing right now" ... hèhè - and that's the only thing i rmeber exept from the first 15 minutes of onset ... everything els was just black the next day.

i voted xanax.

Fantasian

24-05-2006, 02:49

SWIJ realises she forgot to explain her choice: Valium. For her it just seems the perfect benzo feeling (insulated, chilled, calm, sometimes with euphoria). Lorazepam always made her feel too sedated, with a thick head and hungover feeling the next day. Temazepam never quite seemed to get her to the place she needed to be.

SWIM recently was prescribed Temazepam, SWIM finds it too sedating and sickly to be of much recreational use, definatly good for sleeping issues though.

tenderitis

24-05-2006, 21:48

SWIM stepped on the Xan train several years ago after trying one 2mg bar, and got loaded - like alcohol with with less physical and mental impairment and NO hangover. SWIM and his friends amusingly call the next-day effects of zanax a "hang-under" because SWIM wakes up with a wonderful, positive, peaceful feeling. SWIM has found it to "cure" many different drugs' hangovers.
That first bar convinced SWIM he had to pursue this interesting, new (to swim) drug. So SWIM worked aggressively to find a source, and discovered that street prices are rather high XXX and finally found a steady 75% trouble-free source which swim cannot mention, but anyone with a bit of wit should be able to figure out how to do this. One warning - never trust the US-based Internet sites trying to sell BD's and lots of other stuff. You will either pay lots through hidden "Doctor's fees" or other charges, if you even receive your order. Swim is sure there are a few reliable sites like this, however, swim has yet to find one that didn't rip him off.
So 2 years later, and SWIM has a daily habit of 4-6 mg. Swim has accepted the fact that this is an addiction, however, at this point swim no longer gets any sort of euphoria, just uses it to combat anxiety attacks and to sleep. Now, most of the other BD's have no effect on swim except drowsiness and a bad attitude. Swim cannot even feel Valium or Clonapin anymore. But xanax melts the stress away...
For a wonderful euphoric time, swim loves to add alcohol to the mix and gets blasted to the point of bouncing off furniture, falling, etc. Swim has learned to be careful - with this combo one can get seriously injured and not be aware of it. Anyone want to try to explain that broken bone/various injury to the hospital emergency room doctor? Especially if one is still under the effects of the combo and can barely form words...
But it is one of the best combos out there in swim's opinion. Add cannabis as desired but too much and you'll be asleep in 20 minutes...
Swim would feel like an irresponsible heel if he didn't attach a disclaimer to this post -
As previously noted, all BD's are quickly addictive at certain threshold levels (for xanax it seems to be anythng above 2-3 mg per day), and Swim has used poor timing in the past and had to endure BD withdrawl. While swim has never dealt with Opiate or Alcohol withdrawl, xanax withdrawl was among the worst experiences of his life. Constant anxiety attacks, illness, and yes, seizures. Almost lost his upper-management job due to seizure at workplace. ANY attempt at treating a BD addiction MUST use a slow "weaning" process, decreasing dosage weekly or even bi-weekly until one can stop. NEVER go cold turkey with BD's. You can die.

Just swim's rambling personal experiences....

*Thanks for an informative post: Now please READ the rules: No Prices!*

rollerzcoasterz

09-06-2006, 19:46

Ativan makes me feel like shit the next day. Nothing beats a goold old 2 MG Xanax bar. Good Xanax knocks me out usually though.

Benzeneringz

14-06-2006, 12:37

My favorite benzo is temazepam (Restoril)

Jatelka

14-06-2006, 13:20

My favorite benzo is temazepam (Restoril)

And why is that? How does it make SWIY feel? How does it compare to other benzo's that SWIY has tried?

An expansion would be much appreciated:)

Bajeda

04-08-2006, 07:46

SWIJ realises she forgot to explain her choice: Valium. For her it just seems the perfect benzo feeling (insulated, chilled, calm, sometimes with euphoria).

My friend swim is trying valium for the first time now. He took 16mg to start with and is 1 hour 40 minutes off baseline.

It is quite different from what he expected. He is incoherent and a bit delirious. He seems to have lost some motor control and his brain isn't as active. He doesn't feel like doing much, and is going to lie down on the bed now and trip out to music until he passes out.

The effects themselves aren't bad, and are appealing to swim. However, the experience as a whole hasn't been anything special, and swim is having a hard time thinking of situations where valium would be good. He definitely wishes he had some weed right now though.

So even with this one experience swim finds diazepam to be his favourite benzo, though alprazolam can be quite fun as well.

Does anyone have any advice as to how to have fun using valium recreationally?

radiometer

04-08-2006, 08:56

SWIM prefers Xanax. She doesn't use benzos for fun. She used them for a while for GAD, and now keeps them around for occasional use. Xanax provides the best anxiety relief for SWIM out of the benzos she's tried (Klonopin, Valium, Ativan) with the least undesirable side effects. In fact, when SWIM tapered off of her regular dosing, she found that she had to do it with Xanax, because none of the others she tried (with the longer half-lives typically recommended for tapering) worked properly for her anxiety.

SWIM likes that Xanax leaves her clear-headed, so she can use it for performance anxiety (she's a professional symphonic musician) without affecting perfomance quality, and that it's fast-acting, making it a great choice for helping to sleep after psychedelic or stimulant use.

piumo

05-08-2006, 06:53

yeah ima big fan of temazepam its my favorite especially on high doses like 120mg its awesome shit.i also love oxazepam but im still tryin to score some nitrazepam an royhpnol as they r mostly prescribed 4 sleep an i find the sleepin pills better than anxiety pills in my opinion.ive only had the chance to try xanax kpin temazies serapax(oxazepam) and valium so i still got a few to try

Forthesevenlakes

05-08-2006, 07:07

piumo: please do not self-incriminate! even if benzos are being used legally by you, forum rules dictate that you must talk about SWIM (someone who isnt me) with regards to these experiences. use the search engine to read up more about SWIM! other than that welcome to the forum.

piumo

06-08-2006, 13:54

oops sorry bout dat it was swims first post and swim was under the influence of xanax and alcohol when he wrote it. oh and swim scored some mogadon today so he is very exited to try but he might wait till another day since he is now under the influence of xanax and methadone and feelin mighty fine.oh thanx for the welcome 7lakes

rodent

08-08-2006, 16:08

Well, I said it in another thread but SWIM loved Halcion (triazolam) the few times he tried it. He felt there was a definite euphoria that he didn't find in most of the others. Xanax probably coming in a close 2nd.

SWIM has tried oxazepam and temazepam at least once each but can't remember the experience very well... heh, go figure! :rolleyes:

(as said before the withdrawals from benzo's is HORRIBLE, use with extreme caution people)

deadhead

16-08-2006, 22:35

Triazolam is very tempting because of its potency and very low half-life. But be very carefull with triazolam, specially above 1mg doses, because SWIM has gone thru things like going to the street naked and dancing on top of cars because of triazolam. Any benzo can get you really fuc*ed up but triazolam is the one that tends to get the most. Be carefull.

SWIM finds triazolam not relaxing but a really mind fuc*er!

Oxazepam is the most popular amongs benzo ABusers in here my country. SWIM likes more clonazepam, midazolam, bromazepam, diazepam, temazepam, oxazepam.

bassintro

25-08-2006, 03:01

anyone like Klonpin at all???? havent heard anything about it yet, I prefer it over ativan. Has that nice minty taste also

torr_aox

25-08-2006, 09:33

SWIM often uses clonazepam (generic Klonopin) to help sleep after using a stimulant (coke, xtc, etc). It does the trick. Can't think of any instances SWIM has used it for shit's and giggles though.

Benzhead

25-08-2006, 17:54

SWIM's choice is Klonopin(clonazepam). For SWIM the answer as to why is all too obvious, as you'll soon see. Please read.

It is not an issue of recreation and/or enjoyment. It is a matter of daily functioning. SWIM has a script - and has had a continually renewed script for 11 years.

SWIM is unfortunately saddled with Generalized Anxiety Disorder(GAD) with infrequent, episodic panic attacks. SWIM only uses the term 'episodic' here as to distinguish between SWIM's normal level of background anxiety, and the much more intense panic attacks.

SWIM knows that all panic attacks are episodic ;)

Since SWIM has explained this much, SWIM may as well go all cathartic on you poor readers...

SWIM, along with his P-doc, has tried other benzos(Valium or diazepam)(Xanax or alprazolm), as well as many other types of meds in order to bring SWIM's anxiety issues under control.

These trials have included SSRIs*(Zoloft or sertraline), Desyrel(trazodone) among 'oldish' anti-depressants, to newer agents that effect multiple neurotransmitters such as Effexor(venlaxafine) and Remeron(mirtazepine), that are widely acknowledged to effect the pathways of both serotonin and norepinephrine in the brain. In high doses, Effexor(venlaxafine) is also shown to have some effect on dopamine.

(SWIM should add the following: While trazodone is an SSRI, it also acts on 5-HT2 receptor sites, so the mode of action may have yet to be truly fleshed out)

SWIM's curiousity about most things lead him to discuss at great length the modes of actions of his trial meds with his P-doc. Hence the boring and verbose post. Sorry.

Other novel anti-anxiety(anxiolytic) agents were also been given trials - Buspar(buspirone) being the most recognizable.

As you've no doubt guessed by now, none of these agents, alone or in combinations alleviated SWIM's GAD.....EGAD! ;)

SWIM does enjoy reminiscing about the old days when his benzos gave him an entirely tranquil feeling not unlike being immersed in a warm mental bath.

However, those days are far in the past. *sigh*

Now, Klonopin(clonazepam) serves yeoman's duty in keeping SWIMs sometimes overwhelming anxiety at bay. Boring yes, but vital.

That, my now-entirely-bored-co-members is why Klonopin(clonazepam) is SWIM's favorite benzo.

*Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor

25-08-2006, 18:05

Temezepam (Restoril) is great. Feels like being in a dream but you're awake. Might even have to pinch yourself a time or two to really make sure that you're not really sleeping but are indeed awake and concious of your surroundings...

London_Bloke

25-08-2006, 23:51

SWIM's favorite is Ativan for 2 reasons:

1. Takes off the edge without knocking SWIM on her ass, and

2. Because she has a script and a very generous shrink.

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Psych0naut

11-12-2006, 20:16

For SWIM it's definately Temazepam. SWIM has tried different benzodiazepines with a few glasses of alcohol, which made him do stupid things,or make him to sedated and sleepy, so he'll rather enjoy benzo's on their own.
Midazolam might be a close second, but it's hard to dose because of it's potency, though nice when dosed right.
Diazepam is too sedating for SWIM, and Oxazepam doesn't cause any euphoria for SWIM either, only Temazepam and Midazolam do.
Lormetazepam is also nice, and gives SWIM a relaxt feeling, but no euphoria either, and neither does Lorazepam.
SWIM still wants to do flunitrazepam, triazolam and flurazepam so his mind might still change, but for the moment it's 30mg of Temazepam.

DrMuffy

13-12-2006, 05:06

SWIdr has been prescribed: Diazepam, Lorazepam, Clonazepam and Alprazolam over the past couple of years for GAD (general anxiety disorder). He has tried other non-prescribed benzos too, but he has found that a couple 1mg pills of clonazepam would settle his anxiety for pretty much the whole day. Recreationally speaking tho, he would have to say Valium (diazepam) and Xanax (alprazolam) would tie for first. They both can stomp out any panic attack, and when taken in the right doses, and combinations with opiates and alcohol (NOTE: Do not combine Benzodiepines with any other drugs unless well eduated and experienced on the subject!) they can be a great source for superb euphoria!

oggy

14-12-2006, 00:50

Temazepam is now Swims fav for a body high and making him very happy but for social anxiety klonopin is by far the best for Swim. Swim is getting a script for klonopin soon and it just keeps him cool for social events.

If he had to pick between the 2 he would rather have klonopin hands down. Swim is the type of guy when he walks into a bar/pub/club and even if all his friends are there he'll go straight to buy a strong drink just so he can feel that he can socialize. With klonopin he's happy and can talk more confident with girls and larger groups of people.

Swim's not so keen on valium and larozepam as he has been very violent when mixed with alcohol. Xanax just makes Swim sleepy, so best to save that for bed time after a night out.

rxbandit

25-12-2006, 23:55

swim enjoys diazepam. swim has had both aprazolam and diazepam crystals with no binding agents and finds the aprazolam to give a strange headache like sensation while the diazepam is far easy to measure an accurate dose, very smooth to insufflate and makes swim very sociable around strangers without apprearing sloppy drunk.

merseyloyalist

20-01-2007, 16:54

temazapam

Jatelka

21-01-2007, 17:08

^^^ and why is that ML?

merseyloyalist

21-01-2007, 18:34

availability,cost(nothing as they are scripted)and buzz altho sometimes like to throw a few vali's in to extend the buzz.

MrMouse

21-02-2007, 05:09

Xanax = potency without being monged the next day.

Morphium

26-02-2007, 05:55

I'm not sure..I like the hypnotics (the ones prescribed for sleep) benzos best. they seem to always be the strongest. Rohypnol, nitrazepam, and temazepam kick butt.

procrastinator

18-03-2007, 04:47

SWIM has tried valium, ativan and temazepam. SWIM thinks that ativan is 100x better than valium as it's a lot stronger. (SWIM is trying to persuade doctors to give script for ativan)

brook

18-04-2007, 14:56

For swim, he would definately go with moggies.. Nitrazepam. Defo.
they kick in after only a few minutes if sucked, they give a good feeling of euphoria/initial buzz, they do last a good amount of time (swim actually enjoys the "hangover" the next waking day!).

Apparently according to some sources they are a weak benzo, but in swim's opinion (while this may/may not be true) if this is the case it is one of their better qualities as swim is less likely to get into trouble!

they have a good sedative property - causing severe motor response delay/slurred speech; but with less of the aggression seen by other benzo's in high doses...

:D

brook

18-04-2007, 15:04

^^^ Not to mention if they dont kill you , will turn you into a nasty piece of work who will become very emotionally nasty to anyone in the immediate vicinity or become violent. not remembering (retrograde amnesia) much the next day and wondering why everyone looks pissed off at you.

Yup, isn't that the sad truth!! many many many a time, swim has been an absolute f*@k on too many benzo's and too much beer.

i honestly dont know how swim has managed to stay alive after all the drug cocktails he has ingested some days!!

swim is still on a learning curve and probably wont take this advice but - be CAREFUL!! mixing these drugs together, or with opiates or alcohol is very very dangerous. do avoid it!

;)

Isochrist

19-04-2007, 08:10

Ativan here. It just seems more euphoric than xanax with slightly less amnesia that comes along with it.

Valium is too light in effects as far as recreation goes, and SWIM doesnt really have a whole of experience with klonopin, and none at all with rohypnol.

x cynic x

26-04-2007, 02:53

Swim voted ativan as his favorite, he likes the feeling of a couple mgs, the euphoria especially, and finds that valium is pretty weak, but xanax is good, just a little too addicting for swims liking.

hoodabudda

26-04-2007, 08:20

swim likes lorazapam compared to klonopin,dizapam and zannies because its so much more sedating than klono and valium yet lacks the respritory depression he noticed with zanex.but hands dow the best downer is zolpidem tartrate(ambien).the first high on amben is the best and no matter how long you abstain theres nothing like the first ever amben trip so dont waste it take a good 15-20 mg your first time.people have survived doses upwards of 300mg but anything above 30mg is insanely hard to remember.swiy will just be sitting there like ...shit what did i have for breakfast!!??its such a social high you feel connected to the person next to you.not sure why this isnt a more poular date rape drug, not just because of amnesia but even 10mg has profound panty-removing effects.

Psych0naut

26-04-2007, 17:33

Please always include the chemical name of pharmaceutical drugs in your posts. When using brand names like Rivotril or Klonopin, include the substance name, clonazepam. This can be easily obtained from Google or other search engine. Doing so will avoid confusion on this international forum. Thank you.

allyourbase

26-04-2007, 18:07

serax is SWIM's favorite. its highly euphoric.

for the pharmacollogically inept thats oxazepam.

Binzkin

03-05-2007, 08:55

Voted Klonopin, even though SWIM feels that xanax packs a bigger punch, he likes that he can drop 4mg of klon and go about his daily life minus the constant paranoia and anxiety.

mrphucker

23-05-2007, 18:40

for me its gotta be the ativan you get in the UK,lovely wobbly legs amd that happy warm clumsy feeling whilst beenn able to function(ish) atb the same time

Not a big fan of vallies they've neverdne a great deat at less than 40/50mg

Psych0naut

23-05-2007, 19:20

Please always include the chemical name of pharmaceutical drugs in your posts! This can be easily obtained from Google or other search engine. Doing so will avoid confusion on this international forum. Thank you.

London_Bloke

23-05-2007, 23:19

Now that SWIM has the dose figured out, she is starting to get a liking for phenazepam.

Binzkin

24-05-2007, 01:55

Klonopin = Clonazepam

Jatelka

24-05-2007, 07:20

Now that SWIM has the dose figured out, she is starting to get a liking for phenazepam.

Can SWIY elaborate a little B? How does it make SWIY feel, how does it compatre to other benzos?

London_Bloke

26-05-2007, 13:45

Can SWIY elaborate a little B? How does it make SWIY feel, how does it compare to other benzos?

Unfortunately, SWIJatelka is asking a gourmet question to a person who thinks that a peanut butter sandwich is a 4-star experience. In other words, SWIM uses benzos predominately to deal with her most pressing issue, the one that overrides all others: sleep. Because of this, SWIM does not consider herself a connoisseur of benzos because she is trying to escape terra firma and has no idea how it actually feels to be awake or attempting to function. SWIM does have a script for Ativan and has used small amounts during the day to alleviate stress.

SWIM is a serious insomniac and has been my many years. She has taken Lunesta for over 2 years now, but is has become less effective and rather than let go (because Ambien and Rozerzem don't work well at all) SWIM has started self-medicating, augmenting her Lunesta with Benedryl, Ativan and now has substituted 2mg of Phenazepam for everything except the Lunesta. It is doing the job fairly well, as 2mg knocks SWIM back pretty good.

Alekseev

28-05-2007, 00:10

I like Lorazepam because it helps calm my anxiety. Valium is nice, too :p

keats

28-05-2007, 09:31

Xanax is swim's benzo of choice. Good for sleep, good for anxiety, and great for stimulant come downs/chilling out bad trips. Great utility drug.

kareena

20-06-2007, 16:09

For SWIM hands down clonazepam. Relaxing and helpful on occassion for anxiety. SWIM dislikes alprazolam- too short acting, but mainly because SWIM can feel it leaving their body- and it then induces a headache.

Henfer

24-06-2007, 18:42

valium + smoking some bud is very nice for relaxation. a bottle of beer (0.5l), not to strong one, and you're set for wonderful sleeping and a nice buzz. swim's head is always working and thinking, all the time; this combination provides his brain a complete zero line. just laying down and thinking about nothing, all sorrows gone.

however, swim's now on mirtazapine and didn't do this combination for month. and also back then, only ones a month or so, it's just TOO enjoyable and swim's father has gone through long and hard withdrawal from valium, so swim always tries to not overdo any substance he likes.

oh, valium and a bit of tilidine (an opiate) is a once-in-a-lifetime combination for swim, as this is truly purely addictive, it's just TOO good.

so, swim does not have any real financial problems or so, just a very stressful job (the job itself is stressful, not especially for swim, because you see only problems, money loss and people yelling at you to help them not to loose too much of the money of which they have too much anyway) and an overactive mind (maybe also caused by too much psychadelics) - so he likes that "not thinking just enjoying"-state

geophagus

29-06-2007, 03:33

SWIM has always considered triazolam (Halcion) to be his favorite benzo. ;)

Jatelka

29-06-2007, 06:19

^^^ Whys is that? What does it do fo SWIY that other benzos don't?

geophagus

29-06-2007, 07:26

SWIM found that triazolam (Halcion) was much more euphoric, and potent than any of the other benzos he had experienced over the years.

SWIM also found that it's interaction with other drugs like cannabis, and alcohol were much more profound with regards to the euphoria and potency when compared to the other benzos that SWIM had used prior to getting a prescription for triazolam.

The only benzos that SWIM has never experienced are bromazepam (Lexomil), and nitrazepam (Mogadon).

tayo

29-06-2007, 08:52

SWIM likes valium for overall recreation, a great skeletal muscle relaxor and mental pacifier, xanax is good for panic attacks for swim but has significantly less effect on SWIM, and Clonazepam has been the best for things like OCD and other anxiety disorders for sustained non-drowsy, yet anxyolitic effects.

delphinen

29-06-2007, 16:22

Diazepam works just too damn good with any opiate/opioid for SWIM. Alprazolam and Clonazepam are both very good too, but Diazepam... its Diazepam, you cant beat it.

jewels480

29-06-2007, 18:30

I think that the reason people like certain benzos more than others depends on what they are using it with. swim likes to enhance the intensity of their methadone dose, so they like clonipin b/c its potent in comparison to ativan or valium and it last much longer than the latter as well. Methadone also stays in the system for a long time, so they fit well. They also like to take a xanax with it to inhance it more, but xanax has a very quick half-life, so if you are drinking on it it might be a good mix. Benzos alone, still klonopin is best, wspecially for long-term anxiety and depression, and then shorter acting benzos such as xanax, the best short acting benzo, for breakthrough anxiety. If nothing else, swim would take ativan or valium, but prefer the latter.

ndoftaworld

04-07-2007, 16:52

diazapam. This SWIM I know was started on 10mg 2x a day, which didn't do crap. BUT... the swim takes 20mg and then (and this is highly recommended against) chops it up and sniffs it. A quick relaxing feeling, that lasts a (little) longer than regular valium doses.

ndoftaworld

04-07-2007, 19:57

Oh...

And I forgot to mention that I'm also on klonopin, which has NO effect by itself (tolerance probably), but that helps the all day crappiness, with a valium 'pick me up' (or down) :)

Nd

Underorbit

09-07-2007, 18:34

SWIM chose Valium (diazepam.) Warm n' fuzzies all around, but it was a toss-up. SWIM can't function normally without Klonopin (clonazepam,) Ativan (lorazepam) feels like a big hangover, and Xanax (alprazolam) is nice for alleviating a rough day, but it's missing the proverbial bed o' feathers of diazepam.

jewels480

11-07-2007, 15:32

Swim also can't function without Klonopin, or clonazapam. Anything else is nice, especially xanax, but got to have that Klonopin!

Jatelka

11-07-2007, 17:46

^^^ How is your manatee when they don't have Clonazepam jewels480? What difference does it make to them when they DO have it?

Kodi

11-07-2007, 22:41

Swim thinks xanax, but his only other experiance with benzos are lorazepam and diazepam. And xanax just completely trumps those two.

Swim has had some very good times on xanax, usually after coming home from the bars or something similar to that. It gets to the point where swim fights to stay awake and just kind of blabbles when he talks.

ndoftaworld

19-07-2007, 00:04

SWIM is getting really mad. The diazapam isn't doing anything, euphoric or calming at all. When SWIM told the psychiatrist that Xanax worked the best, she just said that we've 'changed' anti-anxiety pills enough. And to double (or triple) SWIM's Zyprexa dose.... Isn't there a lawsuit about Zyprexa, and SWIM is supposed to take at least three a day!?!?

NE Way, if anyone knows how to explain why the med change would help without sounding like a drug seeker (which another doc told SWIM he was), please let me know.

Thanks!

Nd

jewels480

20-07-2007, 15:57

About the clonipin, I am not sure what was meant when the word manatee was used. As far as the doc that up'd the zypprexa and would not change the benzo, swim said that psychs. ar5e very careful to make sure their patients don't get hooked. They know u build a tolerance, but most don't like to change the typr of benzo or the amount. For anxiety, they tend to try a whole bunch of other options 1st. SWIm said that the docs get reviewed for every controlled substance they write for, and so they are also looking out for themselves. Swim says one might need to go to an alternate source to obtain the meds one needs.

Modulus

23-07-2007, 21:55

SWIM is trying his first 1mg tab of xanax as we speek. Wonders if he should start out strong with 2mg (2 1mg tabs) or just feel out the 1mg first....?

SWIM tried lorazapam for a week or so and felt that it took care of anxiety rather well but had no effects that would make SWIM want to use them recreationally.

Psych0naut

24-07-2007, 15:23

SWIY should start out low, and work his/her way up. If SWIY has some tolerance SWIY could probaply take another 1mg without getting sleepy or to amnesiac, but because alprazolam kicks in fast, SWIY can determine rather quickly if SWIY needs more.

Stuck

01-08-2007, 04:26

swims favorite would be xanax on its own. however, when he mixes xanax(as little as .25mg) with opiates he is unable to stay awake and ends up falling asleep for hours on end.

delphinen

04-08-2007, 04:44

SWIM likes Valium because it enhances opiates and makes SWIM feel good
SWIM uses others opiates just really 'for' sleep'

merc11292

04-08-2007, 04:59

swim likes valium, swim tried small doses of xanax and it was just to intoxication in swims opinion, valium is more relaxing and in swims opinion less mentally addictive swims been taking them for a while and can stop without withdrawal easy, this is prolly do to swim usually only taking 5mg a day and then taking up to 40mg on special occasions only. "Mothers little helper" gets swims vote

mrphucker

04-08-2007, 09:55

SWIM uses others opiates just really 'for' sleep'

SWIM finds it rather hard to sleep on opiates:s

Gotta be Ativan everytime,they are used for pre-op sedation and thats what they do.....very good fun for SWIM

wearestardust

05-08-2007, 06:14

Well I voted Alprazolam; even though there are some problems associated with its use. It has a short half-life, which means more frequent dosing; and to taper off it, unlike any other benzo, ONLY alprazolam itself will do - you can't use substitution. On the other hand, for my chronic anxiety/panic disorder, it is the most effective preventative. A faster-acting one like diazepam or bromazepam is of far more use DURING an episode.
It is a very difficult medicine to get in my country, but there are ways and means. If your daily dosage exceeds 6mg then you should have no need for a sleep aid.
Next best is definitely Clonazepam.
Diazepam is quite a weak benzo, but is fast-acting and useful for those with my condition.
WAS

mrphucker

05-08-2007, 08:45

Diazepam is quite a weak benzo, but is fast-acting and useful for those with my condition.
WAS

Agreed,I don't know what the big recreational hoo haa is about Valium,they are crap

merc11292

05-08-2007, 14:48

Agreed,I don't know what the big recreational hoo haa is about Valium,they are crap

valium isnt as useful recreactionally, it takes very large doses to get a high from it, but it does have muscle relaxation property's that most benzos dont so its quite useful for aches and pains as well as tranquilizing your mind when anxiety kicks in, its even used to treat seizures in animals its a very useful drug over all but not the easiest to abuse. It was much more hyped years ago when people thought nothing of popping 4 10 mg pills.

hoodabudda

10-08-2007, 04:20

valium isnt as useful recreactionally, it takes very large doses to get a high from it, but it does have muscle relaxation property's that most benzos dont so its quite useful for aches and pains as well as tranquilizing your mind when anxiety kicks in, its even used to treat seizures in animals its a very useful drug over all but not the easiest to abuse. It was much more hyped years ago when people thought nothing of popping 4 10 mg pills.
valium is only good in combo with ambien alcohol or opiates, possibly weed but havent tried that yet.

wearestardust

10-08-2007, 14:49

Agreed,I don't know what the big recreational hoo haa is about Valium,they are crap
Well, CRAP isn't a word I'd use to describe Valium at all. They just need a higher dosage is all. In fact, I find the feeling from taking 50mg diazepam quite likeable, nice warm fuzzies. One of the better benzos for that feeling, in fact.
OK, according to the tables, 0,5mg alprazolam = 10mg diazepam, but since they come in 10mg tablets, where's the problem?
WAS

mrphucker

10-08-2007, 16:08

Well, CRAP isn't a word I'd use to describe Valium at all. They just need a higher dosage is all. In fact, I find the feeling from taking 50mg diazepam quite likeable, nice warm fuzzies. One of the better benzos for that feeling, in fact.
OK, according to the tables, 0,5mg alprazolam = 10mg diazepam, but since they come in 10mg tablets, where's the problem?
WAS

Huh?I never mentioned Alprazolam:s

The table says 1mg Lorazepam = 10mg Diazepam,SWIM'd rather pop 2mg Lorazepam and have a better effect than 50mg diazepam

Or 1mg Alprazolam than 50mg Diazepam etc

Ye,for the intended purpose Diaze's are ace

hoodabudda

11-08-2007, 05:43

Huh?I never mentioned Alprazolam:s

The table says 1mg Lorazepam = 10mg Diazepam,SWIM'd rather pop 2mg Lorazepam and have a better effect than 50mg diazepam

Or 1mg Alprazolam than 50mg Diazepam etc

Ye,for the intended purpose Diaze's are ace 2mg ativan/lorezapam would be equiv. to 20mg dizapam probably closer to 30mg.

wearestardust

11-08-2007, 12:50

I agree; in the USA they seem to use different brand-names for the same drug than anywhere else. Frinstance, clonazepam by Roche is RIVOTRIL everywhere except the US, where they call it 'Klonopin'. And midazolam by Roche is always 'DORMICUM' but for some odd reason they brand it 'Versed' in the US. It would help if the international brand-name was used, or even better, stick to the actual name of the drug and avoid brand-names altogether unless we're discussing certain brands.
WAStardust

Psych0naut

11-08-2007, 13:33

Indeed brand names are different between the U.S. and Europe, but even among neighbouring countries it can be different, that's why it is so important to use the substance's name, or at least mention it behind the brand name in brackets, to prevent confusion.

sl1p606

13-08-2007, 05:42

can anyone give me a response on bromazepam.....? should swiy rather buy 6mg Bromozepam or 2mg Rivotril? It's always available and swim is getting tired of the clonaz and alpraz benzo euphoria.

Jatelka

13-08-2007, 06:19

There's a thread here...

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16647&highlight=bromazepam

and a very brief one here...

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12493&highlight=bromazepam

comparing clonazepam with bromazepam

sl1p606

13-08-2007, 21:23

Thanxs the first Thread answer all my questions. Now when SWIY is going to the Rx Pharma, he is going to ask between Oxazepam and Bromazepam....

Which has a better Hypnotic effect?

Psych0naut

13-08-2007, 21:34

In SWIMs experience bromazepam, though they both aren't hypnotics but anxiolytics, and they both suck in SWIMs opinion as a sleeping aid.

sl1p606

14-08-2007, 06:18

swim has been tired of clonazepam and alprazolam feel...Its a nice punch but looking for a opiate eurohic feeling like. So it would have to be a short acting benzo...Becuase swim likes a THc\120mg codeine\ benzo combo... Usually .25 to .5 of either xanax or klonopins. Swim like to keep the benzo intake low because it will take away from the opiate blanket effects
..

wearestardust

14-08-2007, 14:02

Strangely enough SWIM finds that diazepam gives the best effect when combined with an opiate, especially heroin, with alprazolam (but use 1 or 1,5mg) a second-best. It doesn't 'cover the opiate blanket'). 20mg diazepam is a nice dosage. And THC, but only a very little, is a good potentiator for H too. Like SWIM will take maybe one or two pulls on a spliff, that's enough.
WAStardust

wearestardust

14-08-2007, 14:06

As for bromazepam (Lexotanil, Lexilium) it's a very fast-acting one and would be SWIM's preference over oxazepam (Serepax, Serenid, Purata). 18mg is a good dose of bromazepam, about equivalent to a 1mg alprazolam.

Psych0naut

14-08-2007, 14:13

6mg bromazepam is equal to 0,5 alprazolam, so 12mg bromazepam equals 1mg alprazolam. And oxazepam is a short acting anxiolytic, while bromazepam is a medium acting anxiolytic. Oxazepam will come up quicker than bromazepam, though it will ware of quicker as well.

sl1p606

15-08-2007, 00:29

hmmm.. ok swim pays about XXX (2mg Clonazepam) for his bottle at the pharma. For sure swim knows that 10mg diazepam and .5 alprazolam are XXX a bottle. In central america they don't make 2mg alprazolam. So swim would rather have 2mg of clonazepam that he can brake in to 4 (.5mg) sometimes 8 (.25mg) That would lead swim to have more doses for less cash.

Swim dislikes big doses of benzo's because it takes away the THc high all together leaving swim smoking cigarettes instead. Kind like a ware down oily feeling. Almost feels like while on a 1mg dose xanax/klons , THE Thc high feels like it is not being absorbed or something.

Since swim favorite chemical is opiates and is trying to keep them low even though swim doses every morning. Used to be 250mg , down to 150mg, and now can survive with just a 60mg dose. While the light headed effect and euphoria is increased by THc.

this is something swim had to encounter becuase lack of cash and moving from Texas (fentynal, methadone, oxicontin, ms contin, and hydros...) We think swim has ween very well but also misses those intense opiate highs.:thumbsup:

swim is also leaning to diazepam 10mg since 6mg bromazepam is 1/2 potent. But swim remembers a nice mellow semi-long duration time from the past.

highazth3sky

15-08-2007, 09:50

Xanax all the way!!! SWIM loves to pop 4 of the 2mg. schoolbuses and down a 40oz. and smoke several blunts

Big Fella

18-08-2007, 18:51

Valium, only one Prince Charles can get hold of for a reasonable price without going to a GP

Steva

01-10-2007, 18:31

First post. Hi all.
Swim been taking 1.5mg xanax per day for awhile.
Prefer the 10mg Val's though because they relax my whole body and
last all day. Xanax loses effect after 6 hrs but with the Roche 10's
just 15mg lasts all day. Of course the Rorer 714 Quaaludes were the best
but hard to find.

dr ACE

01-10-2007, 18:34

swim thinks xanax is superior it just dont last as long as it should bit of a crash.but Bromazepam is the shit, little if no sedation,more of high euphoria.its pretty much off the radar legally cause its not licenced for use in U.S or E.U

Hectrio

01-10-2007, 19:52

Lexotan (Bromozapam) also is a thumbs up for me. Of course Mr. SWIM can't even get off on Xanax without taking at least 20 2mgs. Tolerance is a bitch. Mr. Valentino was bringing in bottles of 100 Lexo's from Mexican. Being a mexican citizen he had easy access. I disagree about 5 three mg tabs will knock you on your crapper.

Hectrio

trptamene

01-10-2007, 20:16

Of course Mr. SWIM can't even get off on Xanax without taking at least 20 2mgs. Tolerance is a bitch

This is a huge amount and should not be taken lightly or considered a recommendation to ANYONE!!!

At higher doses xanax (and most benzos) cause the pharoph to get really mean and nasty; he has lost friends in the matter of a few hours and does not remember it the next day. He just gets the story from people that tell him what happened and he can't believe the nasty things he did :( this can be a good way to hurt those that you love or are close to you.

If one insists on these high dosages, they should lock themselves in a room alone, that way you only hurt yourself. then swiy just has to hope they wake in the morning.

Hectrio

01-10-2007, 20:52

:cool:Trptamene, I see your an undergraduate chem student. 20-22. Well I'm 51 and wouldn't recommend anyone taking what I take. But after 17 years of using Xanax, SWIM becomes a heavyweight. Not that he wants that but thats life and chemistry.
Hectrio

The mean and nasty goes away with time, by the way it's called pre-anaesthesia excitement. Can't remember a thing. I get 90 two mg Xanax a month and take 3 -6 a day. I barely feel them because SWIMS ignorance. I have to have another hold them for me. But then they'll last all month, yeh!

trptamene

01-10-2007, 23:56

Ya, swim used to have a reasonable tolerance to xanies (about 4 bars to get him going)...and there is nothing wrong with posting the fact that swiy has a high tolerance and that it takes a high dose to get him off...but sometimes quotes like this can be taken and/or read out of context, then someone gets ahold of some bars remembers they read a 20mg dose and takes ten of them and then ppl can have problems...

I've made some other posts regarding swim taking (very) high doses of drugs but have found that when one is talking a large (potentially lethal dose for ppl who dont no better) that it is best to have some type of disclamor stating that it is not advised and you have/had a unique situation/experience.

I see that you have gotten negative feedback after only three posts, if I had to guess I would think that it may be because of this (or self-incrimation)...

by the way it's called pre-anaesthesia excitement Swim did not know that, thank you for informing him.

Has swiy tried abstaining from xanax for a while and maybe seeing if they can't find another benzo so they can get their tolerance down.

Stay safe,
trptamene

dirtyp

02-10-2007, 10:29

-oxamepam, it gets you euphoric to (y)
-and ofcourse the good old xanax on the second place
-lorametazepam also great fuzzy feeling

Hectrio

02-10-2007, 19:59

wearestardust

11-10-2007, 02:28

:vibes:Trptamene,

I don't see any negative replies but yours, and I'm glad you see what I was trying to covey.

Benzo's have killed three of my close friends, combined with methadone. Nobody should take more than three 2mg Xanax a day.

Thanks

Well I am now on 3mg alprazolam daily, but at one stage was prescribed 12mg. So there are medical professionals who see the need for higher doses than 6mg/day in certain circumstances. Such as mine, I imagine. And while I'm here, yes, I agree with the recent posters who say that bromazepam, though unlicenced here, is a benzo with a very high potential for euphoria. SWIWAS often uses it as a very fast-acting med for use DURING a full-blown panic attack - 18mg is the dose - and as well as stopping the attack within 5 mins unlike any other benzo, he does experience a really nice feeling for several hours following. It is available in parts of Europe and in south America, but, as correctly pointed out, not in the US or EU.

Steva

12-10-2007, 15:17

Swim's update. Always had the Upjohn Xanax but swim just tried the Gador
alprazolam and was very pleased. However swim still prefers Valium because
30 Vals 10mg would last him a month. 30 Xanax about 10 days.
So Valium would be less $$ for swim but enjoy both very much.

dirtyp

12-10-2007, 15:51

swim doesn't feel a thing of benzo's, yesterday he took 20mg xanax today 25mg nothing is happening. swim wants to get of benzo's it doesnn't work anymore (took to much)
swim told the farmacist honnestly he was an addict, so the gave me a box of 50 xanax 0,5 mg, there all gone now for an hour, nothing happens. :(

conclusion i better quit, and for those who enjoy it god bless ehm i'm jealouse :vibes:

wearestardust

12-10-2007, 17:40

SWIWAS takes his alprazolam as prescribed; although when he has to up the dose due to excessive panic to, say, 6mg in one dose, he certainly feels it. True, tolerance is a huge issue with these meds, but the occasional 12mg blow-out will give you that feeling again.

dr ACE

12-10-2007, 21:46

because of the half-life you will still have it in your system even if your not 'high' from it. use when required is the best advice swim ever had. These drugs are to be used for 2 week periods at a time, like hypnotics because you become tolerant quickly need to take more hence become addicted

on a side not clonazepam is very useful it doesn't seem to be quite as addicting as valium or xanax

Benjamin Bones

28-10-2007, 18:30

SWIM has only take nitrazepam a couple of times and was drunk, so SWIM doesn't feel able to comment on how good it was.
SWIM finds temazepam to be too soporific, so SWIM's benzo of choice is valium coz it's a nice mellow buzz which lasts ages.
SWIM finds that 20 - 30 mil combined with 3 or 4 cans of 9% lager is a really nice feeling, however SWIM no longer combines benzos with alcohol because as the alcohol takes effect SWIM finds it difficult/impossible to resist the urge to drink more and take more valium. The last time SWIM did this SWIM took 80 mil while drinkink strong lager and whisky and ended up falling on a pregnant girl, attacking his friend and staggering round the estate shouting 'Come an have a go if you think you're hard enogh'. (SWIM lives in a rough area and considers himself very lucky to have avoided a severe beating that night).
These days SWIM takes valium to take the edge of speed comedowns and alcohol withdrawals, although SWIM finds benzos increasingly difficult to get hold of.

TokinIXI

09-11-2007, 13:14

Swim would have to go with Xanax. Although swim is prescribed to klonopin, swim feels that It's a lot weaker then Xanax, and it doesn't take away all your worries/anxiety like Xanax does.

pixplzthx

22-11-2007, 05:38

While the kid around the corner really likes xanax, he has a real, real soft spot for temazepam. I think that it's because the duration is longer.

delphinen

23-11-2007, 00:52

after abusing them so much, SWIM's order would be:
1-Midazolam
2-Alprazolam
3-Lorazepam
4-Flunitrazepam
5-Clonazepam
6-Diazepam

but it really depends when you take it, and why. For working, Diazepam, Lorazepam and Alprazolam helps SWIM a lot. For tripping, Lorazepam, Clonazepam and definitely Midazolam as the king of benzos for me at least. Midazolam knocks me off as I expect a benzo to do.
Flunitrazepam, although slow on acting in me, its the best to forget about everything bad in your life and sleep for 14 hours straight, which could be VERY useful sometimes.
Mix any of these with opioids and you will be eventually on heaven... until tolerance develops too high and your wallet goes empty

Steva

27-11-2007, 00:45

Swim seems to enjoy the South American Gador xanax.
More that the upjohn USA band, YMMV.

sweetsugar

27-11-2007, 13:39

Swim voted Diazepam, but loves Temazapam & Nitrazpam (mogodon) all the same. (in high doses for swims desired effect) Swim has never heard of xanax until now, and would really like to give it a go. :)

Jatelka

27-11-2007, 20:33

Good luck with that, sweetsugar. Alprazolam (Xanax) is not available on the NHS in the UK, and is extremely uncommon as a result.

jjaqwa

27-11-2007, 23:19

I am prescribed 2 mgs of klonopin to be taken at night time and I also am prescribed to .5 mg xanax to be taken as needed. I have much experience with klonopin, xanax, lorazepam, valium, and have tried temazepam a few times. For legitimate use ( I am diagnosed with GAD) I find klonopin best. Xanax works better however for my diagnosed panic disorder. Klonopin is stronger than valium and lorazepam but not as sedating as xanax, leaving me able to perfom daily activities. If I am looking for a buzz, xanax hands down. Xanax is also my preference when coming down from a stimulant ( prescribed to adderall & occassional use of other recreational stimulants). Benzodiazepines go great with any opiate, especially oxycontin. Be careful however because benzos are of course terribly addictive and I found myself a victim of oxy and methadone addiction. Thank god for suboxone.

Jatelka

28-11-2007, 07:01

sweetsugar

01-12-2007, 03:22

Good luck with that, sweetsugar. Alprazolam (Xanax) is not available on the NHS in the UK, and is extremely uncommon as a result.

Thankyou , wasnt aware of that at all. but damn....

trptamene

01-12-2007, 07:58

^^ya, i didn't know was unavailable in the UK...that really sucks.

swim used to LOVE xanax...but after he stook a break from pot for about a year and returned to the drug w/o the pot he found the euphoria to be completely gone...

now it just makes swim REALLY tired...even w/ ridiculously small doses.

He still finds use for xanax as a come down from drugs like X, blow or psychedelics, but by itself offers little recreational value to him these days.

penta

07-12-2007, 07:21

Xanax gets swim vote for the best benzo by far. Whenever swim takes xanax, which is on rare occasions, swim's worries always seem to just disappear. Swim also feels more open to people, and his shyness around people completely disappears. Even though swim is absolutely in love with xanax, he only takes it on special occasions because swim seems to get hooked extremely quickly on it, and swim begins to take more then needed usually causing complete amnesia for 5+ hours...

arbitrage

10-12-2007, 05:16

swim <3 alprazolam...mixes good w/ bud, food tastes 10X better as mentioned b4. great w/ codeine syrup, def. some good nodding. gotta be carful when drinking, tho. swim has certainly blaked out and woken up a bloody mess with no recollection of the nights events.

2mg bar alone is good to chill and watch a movie, too

Steva

19-12-2007, 02:14

Okay at the risk of being repetitive SWim enjoys and
believes in taking Valium during the day. Easier to W/D from
due to longer half life etc. Then for sleep Ambien which is not a benzo.
So if you take both for a period of time it might be easier to W/D from.
Xanax IMO being very short acting and such a nice anxiety killer
beckons you to take more after 5 hrs and W/D's are awfull.
So for GAD I would suggest (IMHO) valium during the day and ambien at night.
Save the xanax for specially intense situations.
My .002 YMMV.

200Ponies

04-02-2008, 00:28

Temazepam is the best for me, the only benzo ive done which had euphoria.

quartze

15-03-2008, 20:22

dormicum, midazolam

boomslang

25-03-2008, 00:23

SWIM is prescribed 1mg Xanax XR (Alprazolam XR) and 5mg Valium (Diazepam) daily for anxiety. SWIM has been prescribed Xanax XR 1mg for over a year now and can't feel the effects anymore. SWIM is going through a particularly stressful time at the moment and the Valium just isn't helping either. SWIM has experimented with recreational usage and usually just passes out but for me, Xanax wins. Most potent. Klonopin (clonazepam) comes in at a close second.

delphinen

02-04-2008, 03:03

Ampoules of Diazepam are a gift from heaven, so in the end... I think Diazepam wins for myself.

WashHeights187

26-04-2008, 18:47

Please always include the chemical name of pharmaceutical drugs in your posts. This can be easily obtained from Google or other search engine. Doing so will avoid confusion on this international forum.

Thank you.

Hey there SWIM request the assistence of Bitch Queen Moderator...swim was given a supply of "anti anxiety" pills, believed to be benzos almost certainly, they are white/off white like large aspirins with the inscription of MP ( the M and the P coming together to form one letter ) on top and the number 114 on the bottom. Swim would like to avoid walking into a pharmacy LOOKING LIKE A JUNKIE FOOL! The effects were VERY STRONG for SWIM, like a very strong klonopin head except with a quesiness, almost nausea like quality. Does this sounds at all familiar to swiy or can swiy refer swim to an expert in the matter? Swim still has about 14 of these, and wants to know what swim possesses.

Jatelka

26-04-2008, 22:57

WashHeights187

26-04-2008, 23:39

This is not a pill id site washheights! Again, this is an international forum. Small white pills with one imprint could be one thing in Calgary and quite another in Kazahkstan. Speculation is futile.

Please bear in mind that any further requests/replies on this subject will be deleted on sight

Thnak you

Ok thank you, you make a good point.

delphinen

05-05-2008, 01:24

I would like to vote too for Midazolam..

LimbFromLimb91

26-05-2008, 02:31

its all about Clonazepam for SWIM. It's got the euphoria of Alprazolam, only it lasts a HELL of alot longer.

When SWIM pops K-pins, he's feeling good all day. When SWIM does Xanax, he blacks out for about 2 hours, then snaps back into "reality" (only to crave more..)

WashHeights187

27-05-2008, 20:27

Limb from Limb... Swim fully agrees!!! Although Swim initially liked stix more, swim's last foray was a complete waste of $$$...swim took 5 2mg stix and basically passed out all day, with little to no euphoria before the ZZZZZZZ's set in. A complete waste of XXX. Swim will wait for his monthly scrip of K pins and save his $$$...but swim agress; k pins are the way to go...Swim can see himself using stix only in emergencies in the future...The only bad part about swim having a k pin scrip is that swim goes through it too quickly!!!

Dexyfiend

28-05-2008, 15:15

SWIM likes clonazepam the most cos they feel the most euphoric, alprazolam second for thier strength and ability to obliterate anxiety, diazepam third as SWIM finds them weak but euphoric slighty and finally temazepam as SWIM needs heaps of them (60mg +) for any effect and finds them only mildy euphoric

WashHeights187

28-05-2008, 17:08

Xanax is my favorite, but it's a hellish nightmare if you get addicted (which I did once, almost 20 years ago). Probably wouldn't touch it again, it's just too pleasant and easy to rationalize "what the hell, why not pop another one" etc. This ain't like Oxycontin either... there's a good chance you could have a seizure or even die coming off a dependency.

Can SWIY recall the time 20 yrs ago when swiy suffered through a xanax withdrawl? what were the first signs? How long does it last and what is the peak, as compared to day, heroin addiction? swim realizes a benzo addiction, atrue one, is much more dangerous, but swim has never met anyone with a tried n true benzo addiction

Jatelka

28-05-2008, 19:32

mmm. I wouldn't hang around for a response from Nicaine. He departed some time ago

LimbFromLimb91

17-06-2008, 19:18

ok, Kpins and Xanax bars are fun, but DO NOT fuck around with these drugs. Brandon Mcknight (one of the kids in my grade, who i grew up with/first toked with) died at age 16 a few months ago from Klonopin withdrawal. His mom was an alcoholic/benzo addict, once i found out that he was stealing them from his mom daily, i tried to put my foot down and convince him to "cut-down". he ended up getting defensive, bringing up SWIM's amphetamine problem. Brandon was up to 14 mgs per day before he died..

I invited his little bro over to play GTA 4 and watch some Fulci zombie flicks last night, and gave him all of my Alkaline Trio, Black Flag, and Kids Like Us albums, and the first season of Curb Your Enthusiasm.. im pretty sure he's doing alright ;)

but it seems like just yesterday that Brandon and SWIM were only 14, hitting up the local skatepark daily, blazing behind the halfpipe ramp, getting rowdy on Jagerbomb/Amphetamine cocktails, and beating up Juggalos..

R.I.P. Brandon McKnight (1991-2008)

fuckit

21-06-2008, 17:57

Kpinz cuz they last longer.

wearestardust

11-07-2008, 13:41

WashHeights187

11-07-2008, 16:49

WhoreHouse

15-07-2008, 23:19

SWIM likes the Clonazepams. They dont hit as hard as Xanax but they last longer and dont taste like shit when you put them unber your tongue.

WashHeights187

16-07-2008, 04:06

SWIM likes the Clonazepams. They dont hit as hard as Xanax but they last longer and dont taste like shit when you put them unber your tongue.

Does SWIM let the m dissolve under tongue? SWIY agrees xanax taste considerably bitter in comparison to kipins, which SWIY also prefers. Guess SWIM should be thankful that he has a scrip for kpins and not xanax sticks

delphinen

16-07-2008, 04:09

WashHeights187

16-07-2008, 15:31

SWIM have been taking benzos for 2 years. Diazepam is his favourite in the end. He might have to take 20 pills , but the relax it gives its simply the best.
And ampoules of Diazepam, are one of the best humanity achievements. SWIM cant explain how it feels Hydrocodone and IM Diazepam. Nodding so fucking hard, SWIM bets it feels even better than Heroine. Believe me.
Ampules? SWIM has never seen those. SWIM is on suboxone so doesn't do opiates anymore. SWIM had some teeth extracted a few months back and was prescribed a bottle of hydrocodone. SWIM did an experiment and popped 5-7 at once, with little to no effect cept a minor 5 minute buzz. In essence, once could say SWIM now utilizes benzos as they are the next best thing to opiates, cant say better different.
SWIM remembers the heroin nod, but like everything it loses it magic. Now ampules of diazapam sound interesting. Wouldn't SWIY say kpins and xanax are basically the same thing, except in duration? It's true xanax has more of a "kick" because of that, but in essence they are the same would swiy not agree?

WhoreHouse

16-07-2008, 19:54

Does SWIM let the m dissolve under tongue? SWIY agrees xanax taste considerably bitter in comparison to kipins, which SWIY also prefers. Guess SWIM should be thankful that he has a scrip for kpins and not xanax sticks

Yes SWIM lets Kpins dissolve under tongue but cannot stand the taste of Xanax, so if he has Xanax he just swallows them whole. You should be very thankful that you have a scip for Kpins. Doctors are giving away Benzo scips like they use to.

frankz81

19-07-2008, 14:48

in swims experience

temazepam-useless as tictacs
alepam-useless as temazepam
nitrazepam-excellent for getting to sleep,stay groggy a lil while tho
diazepam-benzo of choice,needs 10+ pills to get desired effect-most relaxing
xanax- never felt a thing on it, maybe the methadone blocked it?had doses up to 6mg at a time, goes in the useless basket..altho swim gave 1 to a friend and combined with a little h was nodding for hours and hours
oxazepam-similar to diaz in high doses-lasts alot longer tho
flunitrazepam-never tried,no desire to try

Vagisil

21-07-2008, 09:57

WashHeights187

22-07-2008, 15:07

swim has only tried clonazepam, diazepam and alprazolam. diazepam was very nice and euphoric for swim. on a meth comedown. clonazepam on the first dose was nice. but then 2-3 days later already noticed a tolerance building up. didn't feed the tolerance though. kept it at the same suggested dose. alprazolam makes swim sleepy if just hanging out on a couch, swim has slept for many many MANY hrs. after doing alprazolam every single time.

Swim agrees, xanax makes one sleep many many hours, but many REFRESHING hours!! It is possibly the best sleeping pill swim has ever come across, without being a sleeping pill! Swim gets 30 1mg klonopins once a month, and does them fairly quickly, because of the tolerance buildup.

dr ACE

26-07-2008, 18:06

6mg bromazepam is actually slightly stronger than 10mg diazepam. Check prof Ashton's tables.

Swim would agree that 6mg of Bromazepam is stronger than,and different effect than 10mg valium. Bromazepam can produce a stronger effect in a shorter space of time making it
perfect for panic or anixey atacks. The tablets are always thins, and dont tasted of much even mild sweet taste, dissolve in less than a minute. The half-life duration is shorter than Valium so it does'nt leave you feeling slow and drowsy the next day

Swim would say its favouirte benzo would be; Xanax then Bromazepams, and Clonazepam/Midazolam last

Vagisil

26-07-2008, 21:55

Swim agrees, xanax makes one sleep many many hours, but many REFRESHING hours!! It is possibly the best sleeping pill swim has ever come across, without being a sleeping pill! Swim gets 30 1mg klonopins once a month, and does them fairly quickly, because of the tolerance buildup.
swim just started getting 30klons/month. trading w/ friends for other goodies left him with none.

WashHeights187

27-07-2008, 18:46

swim just started getting 30klons/month. trading w/ friends for other goodies left him with none.
Sign SWIM up, SWIM would like to swim some thoughts around

LimbFromLimb91

31-07-2008, 23:38

SWIM's friend "Talking Head" is only 16, and gets 45 name-brand Adderall 30 mg Instant Release a month, along with 90 mgs of Klonopin (also name-brand).

Talking Head's mom found his stash the other week. 2 ounces of Master Kush thrown away, so Klonopin has become somewhat useless for the insomnia (Benzos alone never put Talking Head to sleep if he doesn't blaze some good weed after the pills kick-in). at least the adderall/kpin combo keep SWIM from feeling pure isolation since he's been grounded ever since Head got caught smoking a fucking herb when he can have all the speed and downers he wants.. the Klonopin really does help ease the depression and weakens the feelings of loneliness caused by being grounded for over a month during his summer break

Vagisil

01-08-2008, 07:50

swim would like to try bromazepam

Vagisil added 2 Minutes and 31 Seconds later...

SWIM's friend "Talking Head" is only 16, and gets 45 name-brand Adderall 30 mg Instant Release a month, along with 90 mgs of Klonopin (also name-brand).

Talking Head's mom found his stash the other week. 2 ounces of Master Kush thrown away, so Klonopin has become somewhat useless for the insomnia (Benzos alone never put Talking Head to sleep if he doesn't blaze some good weed after the pills kick-in). at least the adderall/kpin combo keep SWIM from feeling pure isolation since he's been grounded ever since Head got caught smoking a fucking herb when he can have all the speed and downers he wants.. the Klonopin really does help ease the depression and weakens the feelings of loneliness caused by being grounded for over a month during his summer break
damn man, that sucks. i feel sorry for swiy. once swim's mother did that with about half an ounce of some good herb. oh was he livid. but swim didn't do anything except go out and get majorly trashed.

soundoffear

02-08-2008, 00:54

tough call between Valium and Xanax to be honest. SWIM thinks they suit two different purposes. Xanax is great when one needs a quick effect, but feels that it doesnt have the extended chilled feeling one gets from diazepam.

SWIM says a drink or two and a diazepam( or two! ) can't be beaten

westmeetseast

11-08-2008, 23:11

Xanax is a classic, kinda like one of those great movies that SWIY can watch every couple of months and always get a kick out of!

WashHeights187

12-08-2008, 02:21

Xanax is a classic, kinda like one of those great movies that SWIY can watch every couple of months and always get a kick out of!

It is but it also needs to be down OUTSIDE of a house otherwise SWIM falls asleep...swim wants to try sex on xanax see how that turns out. SWIM much prefers klonopin because he can stay awake and still get that nice feeling

dabullsef

15-08-2008, 00:44

swim says valium because it was his favorite during his high school days

magicmik

24-08-2008, 10:46

Swim has a lot of experience with uppers and the like but is keen to move into downers. Swim has the chance to buy some valium which he might. However has anyone ever tried Norflex (Ophenadrine Citrate) as swim reads they are a painkillers with muscle relaxant effects. Listed as a side effect (lol) was euphoria :). Which one would you buy.

Vagisil

25-08-2008, 21:41

wow, it's surprising how xanax is winning. swim has a prescription to klonopin. but he wants to change it to valium. should swim just go to another doctor?

Bajeda

25-08-2008, 22:04

wow, it's surprising how xanax is winning.

I think it is because alprazolam is so widely known and available. It is likely the only benzodiazepine many people have tried.

PilL FreaK

11-09-2008, 15:26

Xanax for me because its the easiest to get.

Freedom of Mind

14-10-2008, 00:38

Looking back, SWIM made a thread on this in 2003 with pretty much same topic (http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13161), in which SWIM stated Lorazepam was my favorite.

SWIM's favorite currently is clonazaepam, due to their long lasting effects, although SWIM hasn't tried Lorazepam since 2003. SWIM had already tried Clonazepam and Xanax back then, but SWIM doesn't remember what Lorazepam provided compared to others that made it the favorite at the time. SWIM is interested in trying them again, as seeing them listed as a favorite back then does make SWIM want to try more, although coming across them isn't as common as with other benzos.

Spare Chaynge

14-10-2008, 01:02

This is a weird thread. What is swiy favorite benzo.. It seems different benzos are better suited for different things... swim speaking totally for the recreational point of view.. sees ativan as a way to become more social with out making a fool of himself.. such as a dinner party..

xanax seems to be a drug for a social setting like... play video games all night with dudes who arent going to care if you repeat yourself a couple of times...

clonazepam seems to be well suited for say a really long dinner party...

All good and the subtle differences good for different situations. It seems drs know this. Swiys should to.

Herbal Healer 019

14-10-2008, 02:06

SWIM has only tried valium 10mg max and only has obtained 5mg tabs, in addition to xanax .25mg tried .5mg with good effects......benzos, or any pill 4 that matter at the current time, are hard to come by where SWIM lives..SWIM needs more experience to give a more conclusive answer although the valium SWIM liked better than the xanax as it was smoother and more natural

Thomas25/10

14-10-2008, 16:26

im on a diet of Effexor (im very happy with thid drug. tried seroxsat, sepramil, sertralin, and whatever was the latest fashion. im still suffer form severe fatness, but at least with Effexor, i can do something about it. And as i assume that many of the above are on the pill (some pill or another). We all have this problem sleeping. But please DO NOT begin to compensate with valium and tafil and immovane. Great drugs. but you become very dependant on them.

Try exercise and try to take 2 mianserin before bedtime. your dreams become way out there - by in a good way. you get a good nights sleep and you du not have that immovame taste in your mouth. and you do not live in a cloud for 2 days.

But talk to doctor - no matter what

best

Thomas25/10 added 5 Minutes and 18 Seconds later...

it seems to me that the only reason you use this, is to be able to abuse even more?

And by the way tafil retard is a clear winner. By the way, is xanax not for long term treatment?

Psych0naut

14-10-2008, 18:52

Apparently everyone seems to have forgotten it or doesn't know it, so here it is again: People/lab animals, always mention drug names or solely refer to it's drug name instead of brand names when discussing pharmaceutical drugs, brand names can differ among each country while this is an international forum. Not using brand names but generic/drug names instead, prevents a lot of confusion. Don't refer to "Valium" or Xanax, but refer to Alprazolam or Diazepam. Thank you.

JumpinJackFlash

19-10-2008, 15:54

Temazepam, although SWIM has only ever tried Temazepam, Valium and Lorazepam. Temazepam makes SWIM feel more euphoric than the others, valiums probably the best 'all rounder' Lorazepam seems a little weak. Xanex seems like it might be worth a visit, although SWIM has friends who have forgotten entirer weekends due to that stuff.

max dude ya

20-10-2008, 02:28

by rophynol did swiy mean rohypnol?
cus swim thinks rohypnol is A-ok

dreamstodiffer

21-10-2008, 00:44

Xanax for swim, b/c of legitimate anxiety condition, swim may take it more when she is trying to recover from other drug w/d. Also because it's the only one swim has tried

Jatelka

21-10-2008, 06:55

And again...

Please use the pharmaceutical rather than brand name. Doing so helps to avoid confusion on this international forum

Thank you

Pope Albacore

23-10-2008, 02:52

SWIM says for short term usage that alprazolam is wonderful. He states once again "short term", as they tend to grab a hold on SWIM pretty fast. But SWIM's overall favorite would have to be diazepam because he does not tend to forget as much(black out) as he does when consuming alprazolam. SWIM also has no problem whatsoever coming off a diazepam trip. SWIM remembers alprazolam being much harder to kick to the curb. In fact, he once went through WD from alprazolam in jail. Not fun.

-Pope Albacore

Toki_Wartooth

23-10-2008, 13:27

Swim takes benzos for anxiety, and his diazepam can't be topped for the least potential for sudden irritability and abuse.
He also gets alprazolam, but if taking those daily, he always ends up increasing the dose slowly until he forces himself to stop. Diazepam lasts so much longer, is more "gentle", and at a good therapeutic dose (5-15mg per day), eases anxiety into a manageable state instead of making it numb like alprazolam. Being numb only works for so long, then it all bubbles to the surface, and benzo (particularly clonazepam and alprazolam) induced depression is some of the worst.

doublezero

23-10-2008, 14:16

swims favourite is valium. mainly because there easier to get and swim knows what dose to take. really nice with a couple of drinks. playing in bands live or at home recording and writing music. I get a really good adrenalin buzz wen playing live, and sometimes its a bit out of hand, so a few valiums before playing takes the edge off of hswims adrenalin

Dickon

29-10-2008, 10:11

A cat I know likes Temazepam best, so I voted on his behalf on this pole. This cat has tried all the named Benzo except Rohypnol, which he hears is nice if you like that sort of thing. This cat doesn't currently gobble up Benzos like he used to! Thank God, he was not very housetrained when he was gobbling up all of those pills. The cat confided in me that Temazepam was the most Euphoric, although not vastly so, and used to make a great get-out-of-bed pill in the morning, before he went to his bowl and drank his methadone. The cat quite liked midazolam too. And Xanax. And Klonopin. This cat was not the world's fussiest you see!