View Full Version : Opinions - What's stronger than Xanax (Alprazolam)?
Emperiorjack
17-11-2005, 07:24
My doc put me on some Xanax and it isn;t working the the stuff is just
too weak for me. I took 7 bars(14mg) today and it barely did any thing .http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif
IIs there a Benzo out there that is stronger then Xanax if so please feel to tell mehttp://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif
radiometer
17-11-2005, 07:31
Wow! 14mg for your first day? There's no way your doctor recommended
that.
Do you have a massive benzo tolerance already, or do you have a totally
bizzare response to Xanax? 14mg is a massive amount. Starting doses
for anxiety or sleep are .5-1mg. Xanax is pretty damn strong, as benzos
go, so if you're being truthful about that dose, I think you should seek a
different class of drug.Edited by: radiometer
pharmapsyche
17-11-2005, 08:37
I defiantly agree with everything 'radiometer' posted above. There is no possible way a doctor prescribed 14mg. of Alprazolam (xanax) to you, so i'm assuming you took more than your prescribed doseagefor recreational use. What is the illness that you are useing Alprazolam for, sleeping/anxiety? Benzodiazepines are known to have a strong abuse potential along with strong withdrawl concerns. Alprazolam is one of the stronger benzo's espically when going up against another benzo such as Valium.
But to answer your question, yes there is a stronger benzo, it is Triazolam. Triazolam most commonly prescribed for short-term treatment for insomnia. It's usually prescribed to take once daily at bedtime to help promote sleeping.
I would like to also add that if you were being honest about 14mg of Alprazolam doing nothing to you(which i can't imagine), then benzo.'s are probably not for you, i'd ask my doctor for futher help!
Emperiorjack
17-11-2005, 14:30
No I took more than the recommeneded dosage which was 1mg. So I
basically did 14 times the recommended dosage and felt basically
nothing. What other types of drugs are out there that works for
anxiety's.
the blue letter
17-11-2005, 20:16
something is wrong then , if you don't take xanax and ate that much, should knock you out.<!--
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radiometer
17-11-2005, 21:13
I suggest you discuss this with your doctor, rather than a bunch of
strangers on the internet.
None of us here are licensed health care professionals, we do not know
you personally or the nature of your anxiety problems, and thus can only
guess as to the answer.
It is downright bizarre that you "barely felt" 14mg alprazolam. I'm still
not convinced I believe you. However your intitial post's spelling errors
etc. did have "Xanax-fingers" (anyone who's been on Xanax will know
what I mean) written all over them.Edited by: radiometer
Red_Baran
17-11-2005, 22:18
when swim had massive amounts of xanax swim took 5 bars at once and 7 bars through out the hole day, with very little tolernance to benzos (40mg day vailum habbit) and felt nothing xanax does nothing for swim even at a really high dose
ihateourfreedom
25-11-2005, 11:40
Everyones body just has diffrent chemical reactions.
14 MG BS. sorry but you would pass out if you took that much, I have taken a lot of Xanax in my day and the most I have ever taken is about 7mg, and that was with tolerance already built up, no way you took 14mg, you would die, or fall into a very, very deep sleep.
14 MG BS. sorry but you would pass out if you took that much, I have taken a lot of Xanax in my day and the most I have ever taken is about 7mg, and that was with tolerance already built up, no way you took 14mg, you would die, or fall into a very, very deep sleep.
I have to agree with that.
I only need to take 0.5 mg to break an anxiety attack.
1 mg and I'm real fuzzed.
14 mg would be way beyond the point of no return.
IHrtHalucingens
10-12-2005, 22:22
I beg to differ, i have taken 12mg and stayed awake for a few hours enjoying the effects, as it is a high dose i finally did crash and sleep for 18 hours but i would say it is possible for someone who may have a natural tolerance to substances such as these to take 14mg. He prolly felt something just not what you would normally expect from such a high dose. like ihateourfreedom said everyones body is different.
calmascanbe
25-12-2005, 07:25
I'm one that can take 7-8 2mg. bars for just releif and 4 hours later do it again . The only thing is I can''t do it every day . I use valium in between xanax use because I gain a tolerence very quickly. But on the other hand if this was the first time on xanax 1 or 2 mg. should have worked for you. I can't see taking ,for the first time, 14mg. and not noticing anything. You might have gotten expired or just a bad batch if they were generic.Other than that I also have a problem with the story. Sorry if I'm wrong.
scotty6435
27-12-2005, 18:20
Gotta be either BS or placebos
benzoaddict
26-02-2007, 08:27
swim cant even remember when he had no tolerance anymore. When he did, 14mg of alprazolam would have seriously fucked me up. Now swim can take 20mg and feel nothing more than slight stress relief, sometimes not even that. Xanax is a funny drug, after enough abuse it isnt even tolerance anymore, its simply immunity. Swim is immune to the medicinal benefits of xanax now, od and probably death would occur from toxic shock before any real anti-anxiety effect could ever take place again. If swiy can really take 14mg with no real effect on your first dose, I would never, ever take xanax again. Like I said, its a funny drug, not cut and dry like valium, its very unpredictable. I love the drug, and I hate it too. In reality xanax should have never made it to market. It is quite possibly the worst drug out there right now. Cocaine, heroin, meth, there are a lot of hard kicks out there. But talk about being bogue, try coming off a long term, high dose xanax habit.
benzoaddict
26-02-2007, 08:35
Oh Im sorry swim forgot to answer swiy question, what will work better than 14 mg of xanax for you? swiy doesnt even need to search for controlled substances, its even easier than that. Just get swiy a 5lb sledge hammer and knock the fuck right out of your forhead, should only take one blow to get the effect your looking for. Its gonna rock dude! You wont remember shit.
Wyborowa
26-02-2007, 19:08
If 14mg's did shit, then yu should not take any anxiety drug from the benzo family, Try buspar. the 1st few weeks are kinda irritating, but in the end it works, and the addiction potential for buspar is slim to none. (someone correct swim if swim is wrong)
allyourbase
26-02-2007, 23:22
ativan is roughly as strong as xanax but has a 4 hour longer plasma bonding half life. However if you were SWIY to try abusing it the way SWIY is abusing xanax SWIY will be very ill. klonopin is roughly half the strength of xanax and nearly twice the half life. however if youre taking 14 mg a day Id suggest rehab be SWIY's next stop.
radiometer
27-02-2007, 04:38
I don't think the original poster is waiting for an answer 15 months later. Taking a look, he hasn't even been to this forum for a year.
csharpprogrammer
27-02-2007, 05:17
Oh Im sorry swim forgot to answer swiy question, what will work better than 14 mg of xanax for you? swiy doesnt even need to search for controlled substances, its even easier than that. Just get swiy a 5lb sledge hammer and knock the fuck right out of your forhead, should only take one blow to get the effect your looking for. Its gonna rock dude! You wont remember shit.
First let me laugh at that, lol.
The person who wrote that they took 14 mg of alprazolam and didn't feel anything probably wasn't lying. He probably looked fucked up, but didn't feel it(SWIM had a similiar experience while on Xanax). On the other hand, SWIM has ingested a 30 bottle of 0.5 mg clonazepam and felt a little tired but thats it.
Wyborowa
27-02-2007, 12:37
ativan is roughly as strong as xanax but has a 4 hour longer plasma bonding half life. However if you were SWIY to try abusing it the way SWIY is abusing xanax SWIY will be very ill. klonopin is roughly half the strength of xanax and nearly twice the half life. however if youre taking 14 mg a day Id suggest rehab be SWIY's next stop.xanax is = to klonopin, in strength, jus check the benzo chartss...
radiometer
28-02-2007, 02:42
"Benzo charts" come in many flavors. Some say alprazolam and clonazepam are roughly equipotent, and some say that alprazolam is about twice the potency of clonazepam. SWIM finds the action of both to be different enough from one another, in his body at least, that it is difficult to draw a direct comparison.
I believe the king of all benzos is Versed.They actually dispense it from local pharmacys as a c-4,with auto-injector.Believe its for at home emergency seizure thing.If you can find a doc that will write it let me know so a can make an appt. and plane reservation.
isnt 1mg of Ruphonal (sp?) = 10mg of xanax. Even though it is illegal it is still stronger :crazy
Psych0naut
20-03-2007, 09:52
I believe the king of all benzos is Versed.They actually dispense it from local pharmacys as a c-4,with auto-injector.Believe its for at home emergency seizure thing.If you can find a doc that will write it let me know so a can make an appt. and plane reservation.SWIM got a box of Dormicum, IIRC they don't use Dormicum outside hospitals in the U.S., but they are prescribed in several Europian countries, like SWIMs.
isnt 1mg of Ruphonal (sp?) = 10mg of xanax. Even though it is illegal it is still stronger :crazySWIY probaply means Rohypnol(flunitrazepam)this is also legally prescribed in most Europian countries, though only in very rare cases due to it's notority as a rape drug in the medical comunity.
Edit: forgot to mention, 1mg of flunitrazepam isn't equal to 10mg of alprazolam, probaply more something like 1mg flunitrazepam = 0,5/1mg alprazolam
Dormicum and Flormidal are oral midazolam.Those two a like a heavy halcion,and are not available in the US. Versed is liquid injectable US made,available in the US benzo.Its mostly used by hospitals and dentists.It is scriptable,but its rarely written.Believe its used by caregivers to treat siezures.
It also goes by the street name Dazzle.
But SWIM must stress VERSED is IV midazolam ,US made,available in the US.Any who has ever been administered versed,or who works with it,can attest to its potency.
kellydgkh
04-04-2007, 05:51
Gotta be either BS or placebos
I was gonna say that. Doctors do give out placebos sometimes [I know this for a fact cuz Joe's mom is works in the ER and found out that that he prescribed her placebos once for her legit migraines (bastard)!]
Anyways... so the pills were fake OR you were so fucked up that you don't remember how fucked up you were. That happens to Joe all the time.
hello all,
i have to pitch in... swim has used more than that in a day... it is possible, however swim does have a tolerance for benzo's and can mix high amounts with alcohol... even if it does lead to a very (very-very!!) bad state!
emperorjack, you say swiy "barely" got anything... what does that m,ean? swiy got something? if so, it might be down to the fact swiy are new to it, and dont know what to look out for, this can happen with even strong drugs.. i wouldnt recommend swiy take any more though! talk to doc, see what his opinion is and what he is willing to prescribe...
also, zanax simply doesnt work for some people..
take care ;)