Drugs a beginning to an end

[Fantasian]

I have done a couple of drugs but basically my plan is to systematically go through them all after experiencing each in it's own right individually. IT's a long story that im too tired to explain but basically here is what im asking.


IF you were to label the drugs from the least addcitive, intensive and mindblowing to the most where would you start. Basically a softest to hardest. I know this is difficult as everyone is differant and dosages play a big part but just a general idea of where to start and end. For example I would start with something like NICOTINE and end on something like HEROIN. I plan to follow a set route slowly getting to more and more potent drugs.





Thanks for the time :)

[polloloco001]

i spent like 10 minutes triyng to think of a way to properly respond to
this question. i dont think it can be done. its not jsut dosages, in
fact its barely dosages, its that drugs fall into so many different
categories and have such a range of effects. which drug is more
addictive, methamphetamine or heroin? theres a whole thread on the
topic. and certainly LSD is more mind blowing than either. maybe it
could work with several different lists. but the question in its
current form is kind of like saying list all the animals from least
ferocious, cute, large and colorful to the most. you know what i mean?

[thegod1]

Alcohol
Marijuana
Mushrooms
DXM
LSD(maybe)
Salvia
Ecstasy
Cocaine
Meth
Heroin

Swim Hasn't done LSD or heroin so he can't say from personal experience, only from what he's heard.

[PenguinPhreak]

Keep in mind there are insane amounts of drugs already known, and on top of that there are potentially endless amounts of drugs that will be discovered in the future. And the question is also unanswerable for reasons already mentioned. It was a good question in theory, but is simply impossible to answer. Sorry.

[Chaote]

I dont see this as impossible, difficul;t yes but impossible no.
So theres a few things to take into consideration first
1: there are many different types of drugs
2: IF you include ethnobotanicals the list grows 100 fold
3: Some drugs mainly ethnos may not work at first or ever

So here is how I would go about it:
Divide the drugs into basic groups=>
Amphetamines
Hallucinogens
Ethnos (tho they fall into other categpories I would group them togetehr)
Psychoactives
Opiates
Chems (They two could go under other categories but i would still keep them like this)
Dissociatives
This is by no meens right but this is how i would do it.

Step 2=>
I would start with the amphetamines just because they seem to have lots of room for addiction, here are some examples- caffeine
Speed
meth
coke
crack (this is just a few)
Then i owuld go to opiates for similar reasons, and I would put prescription pills here as well
eg- codeine
xanax
vicodin
opium
heroin and so on
Then disociatives for whatever reason
eg-DXM
Nitrous
and others im not to knowledgable in this field

Then psychoactives
eg-pot
MDMA
MDA
and so on

Then research chems
eg-2c-....
5-Meo-dmt
and a million others

Then hallucinogens which are my favourite
eg-LSD
Mescaline
mushrooms
and so on

Then ethnos though this one could nerv end because tehre are so many.

Thats just how I would do it

[Creeping Death]

If i were you, i would take a a couple of months to think about this plan first. You will most likely end up addicted to either crack or heroin.

But marijuana and psychadelics are the least harmful, so start there. And hopefully dont push past there, because a "just trying it out" attitude towards powerful drugs is the most dangerouns one.

[Pinkavvy]

like said before, this is very difficult question to answer. because lsd is 'the hardest' because it's by far the most phsychoactive and phychodelic, whereas heroin is 'the hardest' because it is the most physically addictive; and coke and meth are 'the hardest' because they are the most mentaly addictive. Salvia could be considered the 'hardest' because it's such a mind blowing trip, same with dmt.

But here goes a list, nowhere near complete or correct-

chocalate
sugar
caffiene
tobacco
sex
marijuana
hash
kraton
Nitrous
alochol
2c-i
2c-c
mushrooms
Codiene
MDA
MDMA
Hydrocodone (vicodin)
DXM
2c-b
2c-d (no, won't list all rc's)
foxy/5-meo-dipt
salvia
2c-e
amt
doi
dob
LSA
Mescaline
Ketamine
Opium
GHB/GBL
LSD
Oxycodone(oxycontin)
Coke
Deliriants (datura)
Meth
PCP
Crack (coke freebase)
Heroin
Fentanyl
Huffing toxic fumesEdited by: pinkavvy

[raven3davis]

Good answer pinkavvy and chaote. This question is really hard to answer, and I think everyone has summed it up pretty well.


IMO I would rate them like this


alcohol
mj
psychadelics
benzos
uppers (coke/meth/speed etc)
opiates


This is just a rough list because that question is so hard to answer.
UGHHHH i really wish I could give you a better answer but I feel that any long list will be way to subjective.

[daeron]

chaote i wouldnt agree w your calssification of the drugs(eg coke in amphs) but i get your point.


here ill just post only the IMO more extreme ones or extreme dosages(cause low dose LSD and high dose LSD are completely different things):


-nicotine,herion,benzos maybe other opiates(most pys. addictive,worst withdrawal)*


meth,coke,methCAT.4MAR-only if you get outta control(most mentally addictive)


higher dosages of DOI,DOB,DOM,5MeO-AMT-if youre into >2day trips okay,else you may go outta your mind(possibly DFLYs)


salvia,DMT,5MeO-DMT,DPT-most mind blowing


other extremes:1000ug of LSD,1100mg DXM


*never tried by swim,but others mentioned areEdited by: daeron

[Muirner]

I think you should end with meth because that is the downward spiral that will end up killing you with addiction, maybe you should shoot some h, and smoke meth at the same time (Have someone lite the tooter while u shoot yourself) and that should be a nice combo.

But i dont understand why you would set your sites on Herion, or Meth? It seems a bit skewed.

Daeron what are DFLYs? just wondering, because u talk about 2 day trips. I have had DXM binges where i've been high or on a high afterglow for about a week. What is a 2 day 5MeO-AMT trip like?


Muirner

[daeron]

DFLYs: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6506&am (http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6506&PN=1) p;PN=1


had 2 5MeO-AMT 2day trips,frist one on 15mg,quite nice but had to smoke some weed to get rid of the nausea and headaches,luckily was on a mountain resort so i could act as i pleased.second one was w the dangerosly high 17mg,the difference in 2mg is exponential.terrible headaches,tremors and completely lost touch w reality(wanted to exit the car through the window,stopped the elevator and spent2hrs in there forwhat? reason,etc...second day was complete lunacy,thought i was losin my mind...the crash was even worse,felt literalyill,got a fever...will never repeat it again

[IHrtHalucingens]

id say take which ever list u like the best from here and try everything just in small amounts infrequently. i have used this rule in my carreer of doin drugs and its worked for me, i have tried just about everythingi can gt my hands on at least once, its ok as long as u are careful.

[Muirner]

Thanks daeron... that is what i thought DFLYs were. I read that thread a while ago. that stuff sounds wierd.


damn 5MeO-AMT sounds interesting, but something to be taken with extreme caution. I'm gonna have to read up on this, it sounds interesting and if it's not for the knowlege so if i ever do it, just for the pure knowledge. thanks daeron.


Muirner

[armatitumor]

I think we need to clarify which puts a drug further down on the list:
how dangerous it is, or how "mindblowing" it is? Because many drugs
that are one arent the other.